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Old 03-27-2009, 12:03 PM   #16
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Re: Would you take Charley Casserly back as GM?

Wasn't there a whole thread about a month ago about what if Haynesworth is another bust free agent move like Dana Stubblefield? Who was the GM that brought in Stubblefield?....
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:34 PM   #17
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Re: Would you take Charley Casserly back as GM?

Charley Casserly is an exceptionally hard working guy and competent to a fault in terms of day to day operations, dealing with the league, and all those things that have to be done behind the scenes that we don't get to see or judge.

As a talent evaluator, he had some real doozies, though. The drafting of OL Andre Johnson was so bad that even the press was too embarrassed to talk much about what a fiasco it was. And you could go on at length like this. Heath Shuler, Desmond Howard, Micheal Westbrooke, etc. If you look at the list, you say things to yourself like, "Tre Johnson was good -Kenard Lang wasn't bad." But there those are the best of them. Most of his picks went nowhere.

Having said that, he is GREAT on NFL Network. I saw a segment with him the other day and even the other on-screen talent was like "Holy Cow, Look at Charley go!" He was talking about how to manage the Jay Cutler kerfuffle in Denver and it was like he had a seven bullet power point presentation. "First, send a letter to every other team in the league...", and on like that for three solid minutes. It's no wonder that few people laughed when Charley was mentioned as a potential candidate for comissioner.


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Old 03-27-2009, 12:38 PM   #18
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I totally agree 70Chip that,s what I've felt watching him go over drat picks , and The Cutler fiasco..
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:57 PM   #19
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Charley Casserly is an exceptionally hard working guy and competent to a fault in terms of day to day operations, dealing with the league, and all those things that have to be done behind the scenes that we don't get to see or judge.

As a talent evaluator, he had some real doozies, though. The drafting of OL Andre Johnson was so bad that even the press was too embarrassed to talk much about what a fiasco it was. And you could go on at length like this. Heath Shuler, Desmond Howard, Micheal Westbrooke, etc. If you look at the list, you say things to yourself like, "Tre Johnson was good -Kenard Lang wasn't bad." But there those are the best of them. Most of his picks went nowhere.

Having said that, he is GREAT on NFL Network. I saw a segment with him the other day and even the other on-screen talent was like "Holy Cow, Look at Charley go!" He was talking about how to manage the Jay Cutler kerfuffle in Denver and it was like he had a seven bullet power point presentation. "First, send a letter to every other team in the league...", and on like that for three solid minutes. It's no wonder that few people laughed when Charley was mentioned as a potential candidate for comissioner.


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Casserly did have some really rough drafts & they were at a time when the franchise REALLY needed them to be fruitful. As a talent evaluator I don't know that he's any better than Vinny. But as a guy who pulled off good trades & had a sense of value w/draft picks, I think he's shown quite a good track record. Plus, he looks pretty good now w/the Mario Williams pick & the building of Houston that he did.

Don't be too hard on him for some of those picks, e.g. D. Howard. As Casserly said himself, there was no GM out there that didn't think Howard was a great prospect. WRs are a boom/bust pick.

And w/Westbrook, I put that one on Turner. I know Casserly was GM, but the word was that Turner really wanted him. I'm still pissed that they passed on Warren Sapp that year & then went on to sign stubby & Big Daddy a couple years afterward.

Heath Shuler? That guy looked like a star on the rise when he started here, but he could never make it happen. I can't fault CC or Norvelle for picking him, he seemed to have it all. His early years he was much like D. McNabb, but obviously his game never evolved.
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:00 PM   #20
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Re: Would you take Charley Casserly back as GM?

I'd take him in a heartbeat. Many people criticize him (including myself) for picking Mario Williams over Reggie Bush as the 1st overall pick, it seems that he made the right choice. Charley is a sharp GM and would be night and day over VC.
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:30 PM   #21
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I liked Casserly...what we need is beathard and the fountain of youth.
To be honest...almost any ex GM would be better than our current situation...unless of course, one of our 2nd rounders from last year suddenly makes the pro-bowl this year....pa-leeze!
So you would be happy if Snyder replaced Vinny with Matt Millen? He fits your criteria as an ex GM. How about Tom Donahoe, Rick Speilman, Ken Herrock, Rich McKay or anyone else reviled by their former fan bases?
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:34 PM   #22
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Re: Would you take Charley Casserly back as GM?

Dan Snyder is our GM.

Vinny is Mr. Smithers.
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:40 PM   #23
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Dan Snyder is our GM.

Vinny is Mr. Smithers.
Ha! In that case, "anyone" is truly better than our GM!
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Re: Would you take Charley Casserly back as GM?

All GM's have good picks and bad picks. Nobody is perfect.
Casserly took over as GM of the Redskins in 1989. So he basically can be credited for putting together the 1992 Super Bowl Team.
Casserly has been credited with unearthing undrafted FA's Joe Jacoby and Jeff Bostic.
He has also been credited for finding future probowl players 5th round pick Brian Mitchell, 4th rounder Stephen Davis, 12th round pick Keenan McCardell and 6th round Frank Wychek.
In regards to Brad Johnson, he arrived here and responded with a Pro Bowl season and lead us to the 2nd round of the playoffs. We were a bad snap on a very makable field goal away from making to the NFC Championship. We lost 14-13 to Tampa due to a bad snap. He drove us down the field against a very good defense to only have our long snapper F it up on a chip shot FG. Brad Johnson went on later to win the Superbowl with Tampa.
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We were a bad snap on a very makable field goal away from making to the NFC Championship. We lost 14-13 to Tampa due to a bad snap. He drove us down the field against a very good defense to only have our long snapper F it up on a chip shot FG. Brad Johnson went on later to win the Superbowl with Tampa.
It wasn't a chip shot if I recall correctly. It was a fifty yard attempt.
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It was a 52 yard attempt

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You are right.
Conway made a 48 yarder earlier in the game.
At least we were in position to win the game.
We were not getting blown out.
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Casserly took over as GM of the Redskins in 1989. So he basically can be credited for putting together the 1992 Super Bowl Team.
How do you figure that?
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Casserly keeps himself busy, I wonder if he'd even want to return to the NFL, especially the skins, at this point. He has a good TV gig, works at GMU, and has many other projects going on. I'm sure hes much less stressed out and still able to be active in the football community.
Actually he resigned from the Texans because he wants his next career move to be in the at NFL HQ in New York. I do not believe that he is interested in a GM job either.
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Old 03-27-2009, 02:43 PM   #30
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Re: Would you take Charley Casserly back as GM?

How about instead of Casserly we lure Kevin Colbert of the Pittsburgh Steelers with large barrels of Danny's cash and a promise from the Danny that he will just sign the players checks and let Kevin Colbert run the team?
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