Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett)

skinsnut · 05-03-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterBlaster

we should trade Moss, get a 2nd or 3rd for him next year, and let all the young and up coming WR, play now, the best way is to find out which one, really wants to be #1

welcome to the site...but this comment makes no sense at all...trade Moss for a future 3rd just to force the Skins to play the young guys?

Moss it the only deep threat the opposing defenses need to game plan around.

The NFC east would be laughing their butts off if we did this...dont worry...it wont happen.

The reality is we will get lucky if one of the rookies stick...so that would leave Moss ARE...the successful rookie...then WR depth...I highly doubt both rookies start...and if they do...it wont be until next year at the soonest.
So do we need Moss...absolutely...almost as much as we need portis...and probably more than we need Cooley.

an23dy · 05-03-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterBlaster

we should trade Moss, get a 2nd or 3rd for him next year, and let all the young and up coming WR, play now, the best way is to find out which one, really wants to be #1

I am so tired of comments like this. There are some people on this board that repeatedly say trade Portis, Moss, ARE, and everybody over 26 on the freaking roster. It's the same as what people say about Snyder, you're treating this like a fantasy team. For some of you I honestly think your dream team would have everybody 25 or younger. It's just plain stupid. That team would lose games and that's what the franchise would learn how to be ... losers. There's a reason why these young guys don't play. They're not ready and they're not good enough and they don't deserve to play in that case because it makes the team worse and hurts the locker room. Guys just don't magically develop from year to year by getting thrown into games. They do it in practice every day and they need veterans to teach them what it takes to be an NFL player every day. You need vetetans to teach you what it takes to win and create a tradition and expectation of winning. And you may not really know what I'm talking about unless you've been on a team where the team where the players have more responsibility than the coach for what happens with the team, so like a high school team doesn't really count since it's not really made of grown men.

Lotus · 05-03-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by an23dy

I am so tired of comments like this. There are some people on this board that repeatedly say trade Portis, Moss, ARE, and everybody over 26 on the freaking roster. It's the same as what people say about Snyder, you're treating this like a fantasy team. For some of you I honestly think your dream team would have everybody 25 or younger. It's just plain stupid. That team would lose games and that's what the franchise would learn how to be ... losers. There's a reason why these young guys don't play. They're not ready and they're not good enough and they don't deserve to play in that case because it makes the team worse and hurts the locker room. Guys just don't magically develop from year to year by getting thrown into games. They do it in practice every day and they need veterans to teach them what it takes to be an NFL player every day. You need vetetans to teach you what it takes to win and create a tradition and expectation of winning. And you may not really know what I'm talking about unless you've been on a team where the team where the players have more responsibility than the coach for what happens with the team, so like a high school team doesn't really count since it's not really made of grown men.

I agree. I would add that there is an easier way of getting the young WR's to play besides trading Moss: Zorn simply says, "Devin, get out there!" No trade necessary.

FRPLG · 05-03-2009, 01:42 PM

yeah Washington probably has a real good shot to make this team. He has some ability and most importantly he is a quality teams player. It'll probably end up Thomas,Kelly,Moss, Randle El,Washington most game days.

mrreddman · 05-03-2009, 01:45 PM

both are nice signings.....Washington will hopefully replace Thrash. Hackett cant really replace Thrash because he doesn't play special teams. He is nice insurance though if we have an injury to the top 4 WR's, esp. with Kelly having another surgery. Even though Hackett can't stay healthy either, at least he can help the youngins learn the system if nothing else....

DoggDayAfternoon · 05-03-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mrreddman

both are nice signings.....Washington will hopefully replace Thrash. Hackett cant really replace Thrash because he doesn't play special teams. He is nice insurance though if we have an injury to the top 4 WR's, esp. with Kelly having another surgery. Even though Hackett can't stay healthy either, at least he can help the youngins learn the system if nothing else....

Washington is also a special teams specialist. two years ago in New England they couldn't stop him on Punts and Kick off returns. He isn't the reciever he was in college but he adds good depth.

skinsnut · 05-03-2009, 02:10 PM

It sounds like you guys think we already signed both guys...is this true?

The first post says that Hackett is likely to sign pending a physical....if he does, then why would Washington sign with the Skins vs the Ravens....I wouldn't.

Lotus · 05-03-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsnut

It sounds like you guys think we already signed both guys...is this true?

The first post says that Hackett is likely to sign pending a physical....if he does, then why would Washington sign with the Skins vs the Ravens....I wouldn't.

The article says that Hackett will sign today and Washington may sign after a tryout with the Ravens this week.

Goodbye James Thrash...I've enjoyed your special teams contributions but we need to get more out of our receivers.

redskingrove · 05-05-2009, 08:21 AM

I believe Thrash is going to be let go. Possibly even Randel El. M. Kelly is in line for the chopping block also if he doesn't show some kind of improvement instead of just hanging around for knee surgeries. Take alook at all the WR's we have brought in. There is definitely an interest to replace more than one rostered WR. We drafted one, and brought in several undrafted WR's. We also brought in a few experienced veterans to try out for WR. Common sense tells you that the writing is on the wall for those WR not producing. Noone is safe...

MTK · 05-05-2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by redskingrove

I believe Thrash is going to be let go. Possibly even Randel El. M. Kelly is in line for the chopping block also if he doesn't show some kind of improvement instead of just hanging around for knee surgeries. Take alook at all the WR's we have brought in. There is definitely an interest to replace more than one rostered WR. We drafted one, and brought in several undrafted WR's. We also brought in a few experienced veterans to try out for WR. Common sense tells you that the writing is on the wall for those WR not producing. Noone is safe...

ARE isn't going anywhere. Cutting him would create a cap hit of over $13M.

Kelly probably isn't going anywhere either unless he has some sort of career ending injury. It's way too early to give up on him.

There's nothing to take away from the WRs that have been signed. They are camp (no)bodies with the hope that maybe one of them steps up and sticks as a #4 type.

The Goat · 05-03-2009, 02:45 PM

Hopefully I'm being overly pessimistic here but Kelly's knee at this point sounds FUBAR...and he hasn't been able to put in the time building chemistry/timing w/ JC as Thomas has. That said I could see Kelly inactive early in the season (hopefully not too long) and our WR corp look like: Moss, DT, ARL, Hacket, Washinton. Losing Thrash will help cap space a bit too so I'd say he's gone. Hopefully Kelly can get back in later...but I really don't expect anything from him this season at all...can you imagine how his knee will flare up at game speed and taking hits.

saden1 · 05-03-2009, 04:05 PM

D.J. Hackett is a good third down guy and worth a look.

Nflnick11 · 05-03-2009, 04:51 PM

I think this means goodbye James thrash because washingtons a better younger WR/ST

GTripp0012 · 05-03-2009, 05:27 PM

Probably a good idea to go six deep in terms of WRs with receiving potential during mini camp. You can always cut down in July/August if need be.

mrreddman · 05-03-2009, 06:29 PM

Why in the world would any skins fan want us to trade Moss? He had a down year last year but he is by FAR the best WR on our roster. If the OL gives JC some time our offense has alot of weapons. Watch Fred Davis this year. Everyone who dogged the pick last year will eat those words.

05-03-2009, 01:45 PM	#5
mrreddman Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: alexandria va Posts: 143	re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett) both are nice signings.....Washington will hopefully replace Thrash. Hackett cant really replace Thrash because he doesn't play special teams. He is nice insurance though if we have an injury to the top 4 WR's, esp. with Kelly having another surgery. Even though Hackett can't stay healthy either, at least he can help the youngins learn the system if nothing else....

05-03-2009, 02:10 PM	#7
skinsnut Playmaker Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,060	re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett) It sounds like you guys think we already signed both guys...is this true? The first post says that Hackett is likely to sign pending a physical....if he does, then why would Washington sign with the Skins vs the Ravens....I wouldn't. __________________ I hate Dallas...Period

05-05-2009, 08:21 AM	#9
redskingrove Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 57	re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett) I believe Thrash is going to be let go. Possibly even Randel El. M. Kelly is in line for the chopping block also if he doesn't show some kind of improvement instead of just hanging around for knee surgeries. Take alook at all the WR's we have brought in. There is definitely an interest to replace more than one rostered WR. We drafted one, and brought in several undrafted WR's. We also brought in a few experienced veterans to try out for WR. Common sense tells you that the writing is on the wall for those WR not producing. Noone is safe...

05-03-2009, 02:45 PM	#11
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett) Hopefully I'm being overly pessimistic here but Kelly's knee at this point sounds FUBAR...and he hasn't been able to put in the time building chemistry/timing w/ JC as Thomas has. That said I could see Kelly inactive early in the season (hopefully not too long) and our WR corp look like: Moss, DT, ARL, Hacket, Washinton. Losing Thrash will help cap space a bit too so I'd say he's gone. Hopefully Kelly can get back in later...but I really don't expect anything from him this season at all...can you imagine how his knee will flare up at game speed and taking hits. __________________ 24-34

05-03-2009, 04:05 PM	#12
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett) D.J. Hackett is a good third down guy and worth a look. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

05-03-2009, 01:42 PM	#4
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 10,164	re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett) yeah Washington probably has a real good shot to make this team. He has some ability and most importantly he is a quality teams player. It'll probably end up Thomas,Kelly,Moss, Randle El,Washington most game days.

05-03-2009, 04:51 PM	#13
Nflnick11 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 432	re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett) I think this means goodbye James thrash because washingtons a better younger WR/ST

05-03-2009, 05:27 PM	#14
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett) Probably a good idea to go six deep in terms of WRs with receiving potential during mini camp. You can always cut down in July/August if need be. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

05-03-2009, 06:29 PM	#15
mrreddman Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: alexandria va Posts: 143	re: Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett) Why in the world would any skins fan want us to trade Moss? He had a down year last year but he is by FAR the best WR on our roster. If the OL gives JC some time our offense has alot of weapons. Watch Fred Davis this year. Everyone who dogged the pick last year will eat those words.

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