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Old 05-12-2009, 06:25 PM   #16
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i would rather have Snyder, who will at least try to spend money to win, then someone like Jeff Lurie. always looking for the cheap way out. at least we know our owners are trying
QFT.

I do think Snyder needs to hire a GM with a pulse and step back a little from the "GM roles" of the game. Other than that though its hard to find fault with Snyder. Hes a Redskins fan who does anything in his power to win games. Id much rather have Snyder when you compare him to some other owners who try to nickel and dime there way year after year.

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Old 05-12-2009, 06:54 PM   #17
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I don't understand how in the baseball section the author praises the Steinbrenner's as some of the best owners in baseball due to their spending copius amounts of money to ring in top tier talent, when in the same article the author derides Dan Snyder under the came criteria. Obviously the sports are different, and there really isn't a salary cap in baseball, but how is all the new high priced talent on the Yankees working out? Also on the subject of other sports, how is Ted Leonsis, the man who made the Caps the most exciting/ hottest ticket in DC not among the best owners in the NHL. Just saying.
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Old 05-12-2009, 09:03 PM   #18
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No surprise with snyder being one of the worst, but I'd put him at five cause the owner of the browns and the 49ers owner haven't made it to the playoffs as of late
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Old 05-12-2009, 09:14 PM   #19
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I don't understand how in the baseball section the author praises the Steinbrenner's as some of the best owners in baseball due to their spending copius amounts of money to ring in top tier talent, when in the same article the author derides Dan Snyder under the came criteria. Obviously the sports are different, and there really isn't a salary cap in baseball, but how is all the new high priced talent on the Yankees working out? Also on the subject of other sports, how is Ted Leonsis, the man who made the Caps the most exciting/ hottest ticket in DC not among the best owners in the NHL. Just saying.
Great first post. All good points.

It's all about winning man, the media is a POS. If we were winning Peter King and everyone would be all up on DS's nuts.
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Old 05-12-2009, 09:16 PM   #20
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i would rather have Snyder, who will at least try to spend money to win, then someone like Jeff Lurie. always looking for the cheap way out. at least we know our owners are trying

I totally agree. The guy at least tries to make things happen. The Ford ownership of the Lions is an absolute joke. Neither Bill SR or Billy JR know a damn thing about football. Damn they even made Barry Sanders retire way too early!!!! Not crazy about the Skins FO and the QB crap with Cutler and Sanchez though. JC might decide to walk regardless, unless we do go to the SB or at least deep in the playoffs, then maybe he will stay, along with a big contract from the Danny himself.
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Old 05-13-2009, 01:23 AM   #21
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Old 05-13-2009, 01:51 AM   #22
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Perhaps the reason for beating these dead horses is the inescapable facts of the last decade:


1. In the year Snyder took over ownership of the team, the team was in the playoffs. They weren't nearly a great team, but they made the playoffs.

2. At that point Danny Boy went on his first binge of signing fantasy-style players and becoming his team's super scout. [Recall that he pronounced to the Wash Post Sunday Magazine that it was he who "found" Patrick Ramsey and directed the team to draft Ramsey.] How did any of those moves work out? Oh, and there were subsequent spending sprees up to and incouding this off-season.

3. In the decade of Danny Boy's ownership and guidance, the team has had six head coaches - - counting interim coach Terry Robiske or "Rubinsky" as Deion called him showing just how familiar "Rubinsky" was to the team in general.

4. In the decade of Danny Boy's ownership and guidance the team has won 2 playoff games and one of those wins came in the year Danny Boy "inherited" the team and had not had any chance to influence it at all.


All that spending in search of winning - - as opposed to the stingy Jeffrie Lurie in Phhilly - - and the Skins have two playoff wins in 10 years while the Eagles have been to a Super Bowl once and to the NFC Championship Game five times. Yeah, I'd really rather change owners if I were a Philly native...

Now, how any rational ranking of the ownerships in the NFL could not have the Rooneys and their stewardship of the Steelers over the past 15 years in the top 5 in the league is a mystery to me. So, if you want to say that the list is subjective and you disagree with the list, be my guest.

But please don't try to convince me that Danny Boy is one of the top two or three owners in the NFL based on results. Because that just won't fly...
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Old 05-13-2009, 02:35 AM   #23
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[Recall that he pronounced to the Wash Post Sunday Magazine that it was he who "found" Patrick Ramsey and directed the team to draft Ramsey.]
Thats funny. I didnt know that. It doesnt shock me though because Snyder has had his hand in player moves every year except when Schottenheimer was here in 2001.

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All that spending in search of winning - - as opposed to the stingy Jeffrie Lurie in Phhilly - - and the Skins have two playoff wins in 10 years while the Eagles have been to a Super Bowl once and to the NFC Championship Game five times. Yeah, I'd really rather change owners if I were a Philly native...
Actually alot of Eagle fans hate Lurie. The Eagles have won alot more than the Redskins over the last 10 years but thats more McNabb and Reid than Lurie. Give me a owner who spends and tries his hardest to put his team in position to win.

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But please don't try to convince me that Danny Boy is one of the top two or three owners in the NFL based on results. Because that just won't fly...
He isnt one of the top 2 or 3 owners. If anyone says that they are nuts. I will say though if im a fan I want to go into the season with a feeling that my team has enough talent to compete. Some teams fans go into a season with no hope because they know there team cant win.

I think Snyder is a better than average owner right now. If he really gets out of the "GM role" he still has with the Skins he will move up higher on my list into the top 2 or 3 owners. Cerrato is kinda the GM but I know Snyder still has his nose in the player moves and that holds him back from becoming a great owner. When the Redskins finally have a true GM and Snyder just signs the checks the Redskins will win alot more and he will become one of the best owners in this league.
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Jesus talk about beating a dead freakin horse
For real. That was ages ago. They just can't leave that alone.
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Perhaps the reason for beating these dead horses is the inescapable facts of the last decade

All that spending in search of winning - - as opposed to the stingy Jeffrie Lurie in Phhilly - - and the Skins have two playoff wins in 10 years while the Eagles have been to a Super Bowl once and to the NFC Championship Game five times. Yeah, I'd really rather change owners if I were a Philly native...

Now, how any rational ranking of the ownerships in the NFL could not have the Rooneys and their stewardship of the Steelers over the past 15 years in the top 5 in the league is a mystery to me. So, if you want to say that the list is subjective and you disagree with the list, be my guest.

But please don't try to convince me that Danny Boy is one of the top two or three owners in the NFL based on results. Because that just won't fly...
I don't think anyone here would dare say that Dan Snyder is one of the top two or three owners in the league Maybe if you are including profit in the rankings, but you are right, Snyder has not been successful. That being said, the thing that pisses me off about these articles is that they write the same shit over and over again. Is like they are writing to a sports fan who has been living under a rock over the past 10-20 years. How about this, every time you write these stupid rankings, do it every 5 years and focus on just those previous 5 years.
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Old 05-13-2009, 02:55 AM   #26
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I don't think anyone here would dare say that Dan Snyder is one of the top two or three owners in the league Maybe if you are including profit in the rankings, but you are right, Snyder has not been successful. That being said, the thing that pisses me off about these articles is that they write the same shit over and over again. Is like they are writing to a sports fan who has been living under a rock over the past 10-20 years. How about this, every time you write these stupid rankings, do it every 5 years and focus on just those previous 5 years.


The only problem is, journalism over the last several decades has declined greatly. Of course, that will happen as the pool fills up with more & more people & opinions. Unfortunately, that also means that intelligence thins out & lack of substance stays afloat longer. So, they drudge up old things that happened years ago to reiterate their point that Snyder is a bad owner.

Let us not forget that SI hates the Skins & Snyder, probably due to his lack of cooperation with them & the rest of the media to do interviews & the fact that they have an over abundance of Cowboys fans employed with them. During the regular football season, it seems that if they aren't talking about Tom Brady & the PaCheaters, they are talking about the Cowboys & how they are still "America's team......" Excuse me, I just threw up in my mouth a little.

So, I'm not at all surprised that these ding-a-lings continue to bring up old mistakes that Snyder has made just to keep people aware that he isn't the brightest owner out there. Their need to be right supersedes good journalism at SI. I have personally boycotted them almost since Snyder bought the team. They haven't seen a penny from me in over a decade.
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Old 05-13-2009, 03:11 AM   #27
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wow, we had a new owner and he made a mistake his first yrs in.. imagine that. its been a decade.let it go.

at the time of the deals he has done,most were good at the time. ofcourse now in hindsight ppl want to say they knew all along. Neither Norv or Marty have gone on to win numerous titles so there is really no arguement there. Spurrier had teams for years trying to lure him to the pros,danny pulled it off and Spurrier wasnt ready. Jason Taylor was a double digit sack man until he came here and got injured. noone saw that happening and at the time we were desperate for a DE.
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Old 05-13-2009, 03:19 AM   #28
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funny how Dan held back and didnt sell the future for Sanchez.the Jets did and you dont hear a word by the media,except now Sanchez is elite and worth it. If it were the SKINS. oh danny boy is at it again,sellin his team's future for 1 player. who will be a bust.
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funny how Dan held back and didnt sell the future for Sanchez.the Jets did and you dont hear a word by the media,except now Sanchez is elite and worth it. If it were the SKINS. oh danny boy is at it again,sellin his team's future for 1 player. who will be a bust.
Yup. Everything he does is a disaster according to the media. Let someone else make similar mistakes & they slap them on the wrist essentially with "it's ok, it happens sometimes" kinda remarks.
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Old 05-13-2009, 06:55 AM   #30
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They wouldn't have anything to say if we would have won something. When we do win, they tone will quickly change to "he does what it takes to win".

Dan, let be borrow a million until payday...I'll get you back.
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