House advances Cap & Trade bill

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

I have said this before, Obama was specifically talking about income tax and if you weren't aware that he was for cap and trade you're a fool. His policy position was no secret wouldn't you agree?

I must say though, to the untrained eye (looking in your direction TTL) your grouping of taxes makes perfect sense.

You may want to check your sources on this one before you wind up like Johnny Ringo:

Opinion

From the article: In a speech on September 12, 2008 in Dover, New Hampshire, Obama said,
I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

You may want to check your sources on this one before you wind up like Johnny Ringo:

Opinion

From the article: In a speech on September 12, 2008 in Dover, New Hampshire, Obama said,
I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.

LOOOL...I have checked my sources, did you watch the video I posted? What plan is he referring to when h says "under my plan?" Context is important and when he says "any" he is specifically referring to taxes directly taken by the feds under his income tax plan. If you want to broaden what he said to invclude taxes thats fine but don't try to make him out to be a liar.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

The out of packet cost has been estimated as low as $ 175 / yr. per family of four to $ 3K per year. Realistically the amount is likely around $ 1,000 - $ 1,200 / yr. per family.

.....but Obama wasn't going to increase taxes "not one cent" on those making under $ 250K :yeahright

and the left saw Cheney/Rove as the Emperor from Star Wars.

Well if those are goverment figures then it will cost $175X29 (thats the goverments always uses out come based education figures correction factor)=$5,075 by the end of 2009.

[GTripp0012]

This is an older article, but:

FactCheck.org: Cap-and-Trade Cost Inflation

[saden1]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

This is an older article, but:

FactCheck.org: Cap-and-Trade Cost Inflation

Very nice...I love that Obama video in the article. What a brilliant man.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by saden1

Very nice...I love that Obama video in the article. What a brilliant man.

I just came across this and I thought of you.

"Democracy is a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses."
-- H.L. Mencken

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I just came across this and I thought of you.

"Democracy is a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses."
-- H.L. Mencken

You aught to know who you're quoting and what they stand for.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by saden1

You aught to know who you're quoting and what they stand for.

Stood for Saden, stood for! The man's dead. Damn your grammar is bad.

[firstdown]

If I heard correctly in this bill when you decide to sell your home someone will inspect your home to make sure it is energy efficient. If not no sale until up grades are done.