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diehardskin2982 · 09-28-2004, 01:34 PM

the officiating was crap. i think someone should investigate whether JJ paid off the officiating crew. we were hoed in our own house... washington dezerves justice

Gmanc711 · 09-28-2004, 01:52 PM

The Refs and Ryan Clark for me are pretty big ones. However, the most dissapointing for me was Coles. You just dont see that kinda game outta him.

illdefined · 09-28-2004, 01:58 PM

Ryan Clark was AWFUL. WHY was he on the field?? wasnt he on the practice squad??he was like a statue in the first half, just WATCHING Cowboys go by. i know Williams wants everyone to play, but c'mon.

jdlea · 09-28-2004, 04:01 PM

I don't agree that the OL really gave up all 5 of those sacks. Brunell held the ball way too long last night. I also specifically 2 occasions where he rolled into the pass rush.

BossHog · 09-28-2004, 04:03 PM

The dude up in the booth who decided to challenge the Glenn TD knowing we only had one TO remaining. Gibbs and Breaux called the second TO before the 3rd and goal stance. Changes need to be made. The ex-ref has to go.

BossHog · 09-28-2004, 04:04 PM

Sean Taylor made a lot of mistakes too.

Daseal · 09-28-2004, 04:28 PM

The ref's screwed us, but you cannot use that as an excuse. I blame the coaching staff / brunnel for wasted TOs and poor clock managment.

Hail to the Redskins · 09-28-2004, 05:02 PM

Look.. its REALLY clear why we took the big L last night.... 2 HUGE reasons...

1) 3rd down and 10, pass-interference on .... wait... who??? Walt Harris?? You mean the guy that was clearly looking BACK at the ball, making INCEDENTAL contact, while HE was getting mugged by the reciever??

Personal Note: I TRULY believe it is a TRAVESTY that a coach cannot challenge an interference or NON-interference call for that matter. The rules are VERY clear... its not a "judgement" call... either the reciever was touched prior to the ball arriving or not, it's that simple. In fact, I think it very well would be the EASIEST challenge to detect on a replay.

2) Redskins have the ball on the 1, 1st and goal... Redskins have the ball on the 1, 2nd and goal... Redskins have the ball on the 1, 3rd and goal... Redskins have the ball on the 1, 4th down and .... oh wait, the 'skins will take 3 points away from the 91-yard drive... WOW.

Personal Note: I love how the Cowgirls had the ball on the 1 yard line for all of one play when Eddie George EASILY scored a TD, showing us how it is SUPPOSED to be done... just pitiful. I'm not a math major but, those 4 points ended up being KINDA important ... didn't they???

The Dallas Cowboys did NOT win last night's ball game.. they were given it...
Which kinda reminds me... The New York Giants did NOT ... oh nevermind...

Redskins_P · 09-28-2004, 05:06 PM

I think we all can agree that last nights game was a travesty, a sham, and a mockery!

Hogskin · 09-28-2004, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The punt fumble was a very strange call. The ball comes loose all the time in pileup situations after a player 'already has control'. Why they choose last night to enforce that is beyond me. 99 times out of 100 that's a fumble.

I agree - in fact it was a BAD call (to go along with two HORRENDOUS calls). You made a valid point, but there is even more. The slo-mo replay makes it pretty clear he did not have the ball in his grasp (either hands or arms). He was just laying on it, trying to get control, when he was hit and it squirted out.

As usual, South America's Team brought South America's Refs with them.

Redskins_P · 09-28-2004, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hogskin

I agree - in fact it was a BAD call (to go along with two HORRENDOUS calls). You made a valid point, but there is even more. The slo-mo replay makes it pretty clear he did not have the ball in his grasp (either hands or arms). He was just laying on it, trying to get control, when he was hit and it squirted out.

As usual, South America's Team brought South America's Refs with them.

Hey Hogskin, please don't ever insult my continent again. The cowshits and south america should never be mentioned in the same breath.

CRT3 · 09-28-2004, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

OL gave up 5 sacks.

OL could not get enough push to score on first and goal from the one yard line.

Hmmm... Least valuable? Let me see...

Lets not blame the whole O-line. Dixon delayed blitzed twiced and had a clear shot. Ray Brown got beat bad 3 times for the others. Pretty clear he will not be the starter for the Browns game. If so expect the roll out to be to the left.

SkinsRock · 09-28-2004, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

1) 3rd down and 10, pass-interference on .... wait... who??? Walt Harris?? You mean the guy that was clearly looking BACK at the ball, making INCEDENTAL contact, while HE was getting mugged by the reciever??

Personal Note: I TRULY believe it is a TRAVESTY that a coach cannot challenge an interference or NON-interference call for that matter. The rules are VERY clear... its not a "judgement" call... either the reciever was touched prior to the ball arriving or not, it's that simple. In fact, I think it very well would be the EASIEST challenge to detect on a replay.

I mentioned on another thread how the booth officials should be involved in the little conferences after the play, but before the penalty is officially called, especially for big, potentially game-changing calls like those. That way, they would at least have another opinion from a different point of view....even if they don't replay it.

Beemnseven · 09-28-2004, 06:10 PM

I cannot believe 24 people actually blame the refs for this one. Blown pass interference calls are one thing, but a good team overcomes those things. The Skins had their chances with or without the refs, but couldn't get it done. Settling for the field goal just before half time, piss poor clock management, letting Ritchie Anderson get wide open for a 28 yard pass completion on 3rd and 5 late in the game, looking bewildered and lethargic on the TD pass to Whitten, ...

Take your pick guys. But come on, let's be a little more objective rather than blaming the refs, shall we?

Gmanc711 · 09-28-2004, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

The Refs and Ryan Clark for me are pretty big ones. However, the most dissapointing for me was Coles. You just dont see that kinda game outta him.

I take back the Coles thing, before anyone does it for me. I hope Ryan Clark was fired today.

Quote of the Night ( I was seriously laughing out loud when I read this and we were down 21-10, and I never have a sense of humor when were down )

Skinsncanes : " Why do we have a guy named Ryan Clark and why the f*ck is he in the game "

View Poll Results: Who was the LVP last night?
Referees	49	71.01%
Coaching	7	10.14%
Coles	4	5.80%
Offensive line	5	7.25%
other	4	5.80%
Voters: 69. You may not vote on this poll

09-28-2004, 05:02 PM	#23
Hail to the Redskins The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,687	Look.. its REALLY clear why we took the big L last night.... 2 HUGE reasons... 1) 3rd down and 10, pass-interference on .... wait... who??? Walt Harris?? You mean the guy that was clearly looking BACK at the ball, making INCEDENTAL contact, while HE was getting mugged by the reciever?? Personal Note: I TRULY believe it is a TRAVESTY that a coach cannot challenge an interference or NON-interference call for that matter. The rules are VERY clear... its not a "judgement" call... either the reciever was touched prior to the ball arriving or not, it's that simple. In fact, I think it very well would be the EASIEST challenge to detect on a replay. 2) Redskins have the ball on the 1, 1st and goal... Redskins have the ball on the 1, 2nd and goal... Redskins have the ball on the 1, 3rd and goal... Redskins have the ball on the 1, 4th down and .... oh wait, the 'skins will take 3 points away from the 91-yard drive... WOW. Personal Note: I love how the Cowgirls had the ball on the 1 yard line for all of one play when Eddie George EASILY scored a TD, showing us how it is SUPPOSED to be done... just pitiful. I'm not a math major but, those 4 points ended up being KINDA important ... didn't they??? The Dallas Cowboys did NOT win last night's ball game.. they were given it... Which kinda reminds me... The New York Giants did NOT ... oh nevermind... __________________ “Sometimes it is not enough to our best; we must do what is required.” - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

09-28-2004, 01:34 PM	#16
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	the officiating was crap. i think someone should investigate whether JJ paid off the officiating crew. we were hoed in our own house... washington dezerves justice

09-28-2004, 01:52 PM	#17
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	The Refs and Ryan Clark for me are pretty big ones. However, the most dissapointing for me was Coles. You just dont see that kinda game outta him.

09-28-2004, 01:58 PM	#18
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	Ryan Clark was AWFUL. WHY was he on the field?? wasnt he on the practice squad??he was like a statue in the first half, just WATCHING Cowboys go by. i know Williams wants everyone to play, but c'mon.

09-28-2004, 04:01 PM	#19
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,109	I don't agree that the OL really gave up all 5 of those sacks. Brunell held the ball way too long last night. I also specifically 2 occasions where he rolled into the pass rush.

09-28-2004, 04:03 PM	#20
BossHog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 665	The dude up in the booth who decided to challenge the Glenn TD knowing we only had one TO remaining. Gibbs and Breaux called the second TO before the 3rd and goal stance. Changes need to be made. The ex-ref has to go.

09-28-2004, 04:04 PM	#21
BossHog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 665	Sean Taylor made a lot of mistakes too.

09-28-2004, 04:28 PM	#22
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	The ref's screwed us, but you cannot use that as an excuse. I blame the coaching staff / brunnel for wasted TOs and poor clock managment.

09-28-2004, 05:06 PM	#24
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	I think we all can agree that last nights game was a travesty, a sham, and a mockery!

09-28-2004, 06:10 PM	#29
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	I cannot believe 24 people actually blame the refs for this one. Blown pass interference calls are one thing, but a good team overcomes those things. The Skins had their chances with or without the refs, but couldn't get it done. Settling for the field goal just before half time, piss poor clock management, letting Ritchie Anderson get wide open for a 28 yard pass completion on 3rd and 5 late in the game, looking bewildered and lethargic on the TD pass to Whitten, ... Take your pick guys. But come on, let's be a little more objective rather than blaming the refs, shall we?

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