The Redskins Are Close

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Hog1

At the moment can you think of another game more important to JZ's future than this one?
Good teams win even when they play bad. We will find out soon enough about this team. Until it is confirmed either way I would prefer to think we will right the ship and......go upward and onward.
If it makes you more comfortable to believe the worst.............so be it

I guess Tee is saying it is pretty sad that the apex of Zorns head coaching stint is against the nineteen-straight loss Lions. I dont think it is a matter of what makes one feel comfortable, but rather a matter of fact based on what has been shown so far(this season, preseason and the last 8 games last year).

If the Skins play great next game(all of the sudden), rest of the season and make the playoffs it will be nothing short of a miracle. I really dont see how else to look at it.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I guess Tee is saying it is pretty sad that the apex of Zorns head coaching stint is against the nineteen-straight loss Lions. I dont think it is a matter of what makes one feel comfortable, but rather a matter of fact based on what has been shown so far(this season, preseason and the last 8 games last year).

If the Skins play great next game(all of the sudden), rest of the season and make the playoffs it will be nothing short of a miracle. I really dont see how else to look at it.

Well, I mean, it's not really.

The Redskins enter this game with the standard risk for losing to an inferior team. Happens all the time in the NFL. If they fail to score points again, happen to lose the turnover margin and the big play margin, while all the while, the Lions make a big jump as a team from week 2 to week 3, there's a realistic chance the Lions could beat us. But the chance of all that happening is, what, 10-15%?

Now, if the question is: what is the probability that Zorn and the Redskins completely blow the Lions out of the water? I'd say that's only 35-40%. It's hard to generate big plays with new guys on the offensive line, and we may not be able to run the ball on them. Calvin Johnson could always break for a TD unexpectedly. The margin of error to make this a blowout is not very large, and given the uncertainty on offense, probably isn't all that likely.

But how perfect would the Lions have to be to overcome the talent gap? Well, let's just say that if they do win, they'll certainly deserve it.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Hog1

At the moment can you think of another game more important to JZ's future than this one?
Good teams win even when they play bad. We will find out soon enough about this team. Until it is confirmed either way I would prefer to think we will right the ship and......go upward and onward.
If it makes you more comfortable to believe the worst.............so be it

Onward and upward???

You do realize that you're not conducting the Skins locker room halftime speech?

You can motivate yourself all you want but what you're going to end up seeing is the same production that I am on Sundays. Your optimism is based on something completely outside of visual evaluation...god bless you for that. There should be more people like you in this world.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by skinny tee

onward and upward???

You do realize that you're not conducting the skins locker room halftime speech?

You can motivate yourself all you want but what you're going to end up seeing is the same production that i am on sundays. Your optimism is based on something completely outside of visual evaluation...god bless you for that. There should be more people like you in this world.

httr

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by hog1

a......few things:
1) if we were eagle fans we would have burned the vet to the ground some time ago.
2) this is the biggest game of zorn's career
3) we will indeed find out much about our team and coach over the next few weeks.
4) i agree, they're close
5) if winning ugly is the formula for now, let's take it god damnit

can i get a hell yah?
It's clobberin' time
httr

Hell Yeah!!!

[TheSmurfs22]

Originally Posted by Hog1

A......few things:
1) If we were Eagle fans we would have burned the Vet to the ground some time ago.
2) This is the biggest game of Zorn's career
3) We WILL indeed find out much about our team and coach over the next few weeks.
4) I agree, they're CLOSE
5) If winning ugly is the formula for now, let's take it god damnit

CAN I get a HELL YAH?
IT'S CLOBBERIN' TIME
HTTR

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If I recall a few years ago the Baltimore Ravens won ugly but damnit they still won.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by TheSmurfs22

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If I recall a few years ago the Baltimore Ravens won ugly but damnit they still won.

What's up with all the dammits?

There's gotta be some hardcore country folks in here getting all inspired by the dammits : )


I'm going to get into the dammit this week and see if it works.

"Dammit Campbell, hit Moss IN STRIDE!"..."Zorn has his head up his a$$ calling a triple reverse on six...dammit!"

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

It seemed like yesterday we were enduring the August sun and training camp predictions. Anything and everything about Brian Orakapo, Marko Mitchell, or Marcus Mason was newsworthy and commanded our attention. Now two games into the regular season and we're sharply focused on a Redskin team like a couple of know it all interns bickering over how to treat a patient who just got wheeled into the emergency room. While the situation may require medical assistance, what's ailing the patient is not life threatening. Not even close.

I asked myself if I were the fan of another team, who happens to catch all the Redskins games live, what would be my honest assessment of this team and where do I see them going. Because grading something -anything- is difficult when you're so emotionally invested in the outcome. So I'm taking a step back. Where's that damn Paintrain thread when you need it!

I really don't want to rehash the team's epic failures in the red zone, because it's been well documented here and elsewhere. In fact, it's been talked about over and over and over again. I don't think there's one person breathing today that will put more pressure on Jim Zorn this week than Jim Zorn. We saw the offense open up from week one to week two. Coach Zorn just needs to take the next step, and I believe he will.

Besides coach Jim Zorn the other Redskin causing angst among the faithful is Jason Campbell. Right now Campbell is ranked 15th in the NFL in passing. Let me throw a few names out there for perspective. Mark Sanchez, Carson Palmer, and Aaron Rodgers, who by the way, has been sacked 10 times already, all rank below Campbell statistically. For all the critcism he's been receiving, some warranted some not, you would think he's chucking the ball in the air like Jake Delhomme. So let's be a little honest here, Campbell has been solid and probably a little more given the dropped passes he's had at critical moments thus far. I'm not a Jason Campbell apologist, but I sometimes wonder if the tables were turned and Campbell wore another uniform how many trade threads would be requesting for him to come play for Washington so that Zorn can "coach him up."

This team just needs to keep on winning until they find the easy button. If winning ugly is the formula for now, I'll take it. I'd much rather be going into week three bitching and moaning about Zorn than going into week six or seven bitching about Zorn. There's no way Moss will continue to be ineffective that much longer. Especially with the way Cooley and Kelly have started. I think Sellers and Thomas catch those balls next time. And honestly, I don't think losing Randy Thomas will be that big of a deal. He hasn't played a ton of downs over the past few years anyway, and when he has he wasn't exactly dominant, so I don't see any major disruption along the offensive line regardless of who they plug in to replace Thomas.

All of that being said, the Redskins will handle their business in Detroit. I'm not calling for a close game either. The Redskins are 7-2 in indoor facilities in the last six years, including 2004 and 2008 wins over the Lions at Ford Field. The defensive line found another gear last week and should only get better as the season wears on. And I think --hope --Zorn opens up the offense inside the twenty. I won't predict a final score, but I think the Skins by 17 points is doable. From there, I think they finish the season with six losses.

Here's to a big, big win in the Motor City this weekend!

Good work 12thMan.......I'm going to contact you about writing an article for my magazine.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Good work 12thMan.......I'm going to contact you about writing an article for my magazine.

I'm gonna contact him about writing my senior thesis.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Good work 12thMan.......I'm going to contact you about writing an article for my magazine.

Let's do it.

[skinsfaninok]

Lol us score 44 pts!! Your high, we will win but not by that much.. I say 23-14

[saden1]

Man, we always seem to play at the level of our opponent which is a real shame. Our players are all super nice guys and I think that might a problem. We need players that are roughnecks on the field like the good old days. I was watching the game from the Rams and their players were yapping "hell nah, no sir, not today" all game and our players didn't respond verbally or with their play. What a shame.

I want the Dominate Button.

[DCtoAZ]

I was referring to an earlier post who stated that " I must be high to think we can drop 40"

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by DCtoAZ

I was referring to an earlier post who stated that " I must be high to think we can drop 40"

Yes...I didn't say that but I agree that one must be high to think to ones self that the Skins would score 44 points on Sunday.

It really shows ones lack of football knowledge when one makes outrageous claims like that. How would a team just miraculously get 150% better in a week? At least make a rational claim to show that one has been paying attention to football more than a few days.

[CRedskinsRule]

If we get 8 possessions, and we have long drives, then we will legitimately get a minimum of 23 points. That's reasonable based on what we have done so far, and assuming every receiver is not going to drop every pass that hits their hands in the endzone. Stafford has thrown 5 INTs so its reasonable to think that DHall or Horton come away with a Pick. and that gives us a short field to score off of. so thats 26 or 30.

I think we should expect to see 27 points minimum for this to be a turning point game.

and if you tell me their offense scores more than 10 points you have to give me proof on that. even giving them a fluke TD, like the Giants got. That is 17 points. Max.

Accuscore has us at 26-17, I think thats about right.