Where are Kelly & Thomas?

Chico23231 · 10-05-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Deezel

The entire Offense sucks. The Skins are 27th in the League in points scored, 2 points ahead of the Bucs and only 7 points ahead of the friggin Browns. Do we look at those teams and think they'd be Offensive juggernauts if only one of their wide receivers would step up? We have bad coaching, a bad O line, a QB who probably won't be starting for anyone next year (just like when Brunell left), a single RB who is worn down, a pretty good receiver in Moss and one of the better Tight Ends in the league.

AND the Skins have only played 1 legit Defense. What the hell are they going to look like when they stop playing the other contenders for worst team in the league?

Blame Kelly, DT and Davis all you want, but there aren't many (if any) WRs that would excel on this team. If DeSean Jackson played for the Skins, he would be crap. And if Kelly played for the Eagles, he would be much better than he is here. The O blows, bottom line.

Its tough to argue any of these points. The offense sucks period. Its not just JC, recievers, line, etc....its everybody. In my opinion the head idiot Zorn should get much of the blame along with the rest of the offensive staff, players should shoulder the rest and dont forget about the biggest loser in the organization, Vinny/Danny Boy who organize this roster and then trap the franchise with horrible contracts. To be shut out the first two halfs of the last couple games, against the worst teams in the league is absolute crap. NO MORE EXCUSES!!!!

dmvskinzfan08 · 10-05-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry

After all of the recievers that have come through Washington in the past few years and done absolutely nothing I refuse to believe that all the blame should be pinned on the younger WR's. There is something else going on, I am not quite sure what it is. I would put money on Marko failing in the number 2 spot as well.

Yeah its called bad evaluations by our FO. We knew what the rap was on Thomas and Kelly before they got here.

Kelly was slow

Thomas was not that experienced.

This analysis is proving true and rearing its ugly head.

But what makes you think Marko would fail. He has nothing to lose. He is the hungriest out the bunch. I heard him say in a interview that he iwill not be content at jsut making the team. He wants to move up the depth chart. I like that!! Shows heart and determination and swagger and he was the recevier that gained the most respect this offseason. Ask Carlos Rogers..ask D Hall. ask CP!! These are players not fans like us. They saw him on the field everyday. He attacked not just went through the motions. But all in all we will never know unless Zorn gives him a chance. I hope he does in the next few weeks.

dmvskinzfan08 · 10-05-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Counter-Tre

Davis, I just don't understand wasting on him.

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post602886

firstdown · 10-05-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

From what I've seen this year there is no reason for Yoder to ever be on the field when Davis can be there instead (and I'm not just saying that because of Yoder's missed block yesterday). Davis is an effective blocker and can't emerge as a threat in the passing game if he's sitting on the sidelines. I was really questioning the decision to draft him but I think he may actually be the closest to making a significant impact.

Devin Thomas should be returning kicks, and I see him getting open but he's often the 4th (at best) option. Campbell just doesn't have the time to check off that many receivers. Until Moss or ARE is off this roster, it appears that Thomas' touches will most come somewhat unconventionally for a receiver (returns, reverses)

For all his height, Kelly really struggles with those fade or lob patterns. They should be throwing more passes over the middle to him. Catch, turn, and run.

Well so far this season I have not seen one pass from JC that really gave Kelly a chance to go up and get the ball over the defender. As for Campbell I don't think he does a very good job of surveying the field and tend to lock on to one guy.

hooskins · 10-05-2009, 03:37 PM

So are Kelly and Thomas are one singular being?

(Yeah I am ass correcting grammar)

SmootSmack · 10-05-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

So are Kelly and Thomas are one singular being?

(Yeah I am ass correcting grammar)

LOL. I was going to say something earlier but if there's one thing that gets the OP riled up...

freddavisbro86 · 10-05-2009, 03:40 PM

i know the answer bro- campbell locks in on cooley moss portis thats it davis kelly and thomas get a bone thrown there way every blueeeeeeee moon we cant blame them for production watch the film theres times where they open

Longtimefan · 10-05-2009, 03:42 PM

There are times when both Kelly and Thomas have been open on patterns and Jason (for some reason) is unable to get the ball to them. They may not be open by a wide margin, but as open as they're going to get by NFL standards. A receiver does not always have to be "wide open" to give him an opportunity to make a play on the ball. Being afraid of making a mistake or throwing the INT has affected the way Jason is playing. Once he comes to the realization receivers are not always going to be running "wide open", he'll trust them more and take advantage of that brief moment when the opening is there and they can make a play. It's a trust factor, with time they will get better.

cpayne5 · 10-05-2009, 03:49 PM

Kelly and Thomas can't get open because they come out of their breaks way too slow. They need to pick up their game speed considerably. The playcalling is woefully inept too, IMO, which doesn't help.

Ruhskins · 10-05-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

LOL. I was going to say something earlier but if there's one thing that gets the OP riled up...

Maybe if we merge them we can get a decent WR out of the two? LOL.

hooskins · 10-05-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

LOL. I was going to say something earlier but if there's one thing that gets the OP riled up...

I kinda messed up in my post too. Shh....

dmvskinzfan08 · 10-05-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

LOL. I was going to say something earlier but if there's one thing that gets the OP riled up...

Just correct it SmootSmack

Where are Kelly & Thomas?

Thanks!!

44Deezel · 10-05-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry

After all of the recievers that have come through Washington in the past few years and done absolutely nothing I refuse to believe that all the blame should be pinned on the younger WR's. There is something else going on, I am not quite sure what it is. I would put money on Marko failing in the number 2 spot as well.

Not just receivers. It's hard to tell if the current regime has any ability to develop talent. 11 draft picks last year and no one but Horton could get on the field as a rookie, and even that didn't happen until Doughty went down with injury.

MK, DT and FD could all be bums, but who knows. They're essentially 3 games into their rookie season playing for an Offense that struggles mightily being coached by an unproven and heavily scrutinized staff that may not be here next year.

dmvskinzfan08 · 10-05-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

I kinda messed up in my post too. Shh....

Yeah keep in mind we have grammar police around here..lmao

Oops maybe you should have said kind of instead of kinda..just kidding

NYCskinfan82 · 10-05-2009, 04:00 PM

I'm starting to beleive we need a better WR's coach.

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10-05-2009, 03:42 PM	#23
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	re: Where are Kelly & Thomas? There are times when both Kelly and Thomas have been open on patterns and Jason (for some reason) is unable to get the ball to them. They may not be open by a wide margin, but as open as they're going to get by NFL standards. A receiver does not always have to be "wide open" to give him an opportunity to make a play on the ball. Being afraid of making a mistake or throwing the INT has affected the way Jason is playing. Once he comes to the realization receivers are not always going to be running "wide open", he'll trust them more and take advantage of that brief moment when the opening is there and they can make a play. It's a trust factor, with time they will get better.

10-05-2009, 03:49 PM	#24
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	re: Where are Kelly & Thomas? Kelly and Thomas can't get open because they come out of their breaks way too slow. They need to pick up their game speed considerably. The playcalling is woefully inept too, IMO, which doesn't help. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

10-05-2009, 04:00 PM	#30
NYCskinfan82 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Queens, NYC Age: 55 Posts: 3,803	re: Where are Kelly & Thomas? I'm starting to beleive we need a better WR's coach.

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