DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy

[skinsfan69]

i wish these guys wouldn't diss their teammates in the media. it's so freakin awful. hall is becoming the portis of the defense. well....at least he practices. lol.

[RobH4413]

We have traditionally never been one of those teams that you could get quotes from. In general... You heard Gibbs through the players. It's looking like we've entered a new era where players assume it's ok to sound off. How is addressing this issue mid season even remotely acceptable. It's very disturbing that these kinds of things coming to light.

D hall is an idiot and a bad teammate to say what he said. There is no excuse for his words.... And this team needs to put up or shut up.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

This game aside, because when Samuels goes out and you also insert a new RG (if this is for other than a legit injury, it's a dumb coaching move) you have instability on both sides of the line and 2 positions. Maybe I'm missing something in reviewing the games, but Rinehart and Heyer sure didn't look problematic to me. Going back over GTripp's reviews, both he and I are seeing pretty much the same things. In the run game for the most part, Rinehart / Heyer looked fine. Heyer is better in Pass-pro than run and Rinehart vice versa, but neither is worse than average at his position. Outside of the plays I mentioned in my reviews, if someone can show me evidence that Rinehart/Heyer are performing horribly, I'm certainly open to hear/see it.

If I remember correctly at least two of the sacks given up in the first 4 games were directly to Samuels. We all knew depth at OT was a major concern going into this year and the FO bears the responsibility for that, but based on what we know about Snyder (he gives the coaches what they ask for) the coaching staff bears responsibility here too.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

This game aside, because when Samuels goes out and you also insert a new RG (if this is for other than a legit injury, it's a dumb coaching move) you have instability on both sides of the line and 2 positions. Maybe I'm missing something in reviewing the games, but Rinehart and Heyer sure didn't look problematic to me. Going back over GTripp's reviews, both he and I are seeing pretty much the same things. In the run game for the most part, Rinehart / Heyer looked fine. Heyer is better in Pass-pro than run and Rinehart vice versa, but neither is worse than average at his position. Outside of the plays I mentioned in my reviews, if someone can show me evidence that Rinehart/Heyer are performing horribly, I'm certainly open to hear/see it.

If I remember correctly at least two of the sacks given up in the first 4 games were directly to Samuels. We all knew depth at OT was a major concern going into this year and the FO bears the responsibility for that, but based on what we know about Snyder (he gives the coaches what they ask for) the coaching staff bears responsibility here too.

The protection the last two weeks has just been horrendous, but you and I have both seen that the problems have nothing to do with Heyer or Rinehart, or Mike Williams for that matter. Heyer struggled greatly with Peppers this week, but not as bad as Dockery did (and Dockery hadn't even been a problem before this week in pass pro).

Heyer has been a surprisingly strong run blocker this year. Even with Lineman Yards penalizing him very heavily for the safety, he still put together an above average game. His improvement in the run blocking game is the biggest improvement on the OL.

But the Panthers got tremendous amounts of pressure with a three man rush, and they did so without ever attacking Rabach, who might be the worst pass protecting Center in the NFL. They did it by isolating and beating Dockery, and by consistently owning Batiste with situational pass rushers.

Mike Williams at RT is a complete disaster waiting to happen though. I understand you might not have more than two NFL caliber OTs on the roster, but you can at least leave Heyer at RT and provide help for Batiste at LT.

[JLee9718]

Doesn't Joe Bugel have the responsibility for getting the best available players on the offensive line? I would think that's his job, but he doesn't have any talent to work with, thanks to Cerrato and Snyder. I'll say this, Batiste was not ready to play this past Sunday when Samuels went down. So Hall is right to question personnel strategy.

[SFREDSKIN]

He should keep his mouth shut and realize how lucky he is to have gotten such a huge contract for his shitty play and tackling from our rocket scientist FO.

[BringBackJoeT]

Not only is Hall calling out a teammate, but by questioning whether the team has "the right personnel," he comes very close to conceding away the season. Whatever judgments might be easily made about this team five games into the season, a player on any 2-3 team that has a shot at reaching 3-3 by virtue of an upcoming home game against arguably the worst team in the league should not be saying, "You know, I'm not sure this team really has it."

But even putting this aside, it's pretty ironic to hear one of the most recent beneficiaries of management's decision-making questioning the foresight of those same managers.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

When asked if the Redskins could afford any more injuries, Hall took on the issue of the team's depth.

"Nah, not at all, not at all," he said. "Chris Samuels going down was a devastating loss for us, you know, devastating. We go from having a what, four-, five-, six-time Pro Bowler in there to a guy who hardly has played in this league. Not saying anything to Batiste, he was with me in Atlanta for a little while, but that's a big drop-off, that's a big drop-off. And heading into the offseason and preseason we said we needed to address the offensive line.

"We felt like we did get better ... but that's a position where you can always get better. You can always have proven guys out there backing other guys up that have played in this league, have had starts in this league. That's something we're lacking."

Redskins Insider - Hall: 'I Don't Know If We've Got the Right Personnel'

He is completely right. Many on here worried about the O-line. But we have too many people in our FO and organization as a whole. Who don't know how to bite the bullet and be accountable. Blache has become accountable and I think Zorn has also. But I think people like Hixon Smith and the FO are fuckign know it alls. Instead of them swallowing their pride and saying I am wrong or I made the wrong moves. They think they still are right and make themselves seem very ignorant. Then Zorn gets the blame. I think he makes some bad play calls. But overall its the ones behind the scene tha I think are killing the team. Not Blache (despite the Orakpo experiment) not Zorn (despite bad time mgmt/play calling). But the people behind them. It does start from the top. You can't be so bull headed that you put yourself and your prdie before the team. This goes for everyone. How the hell did we think we were going to do anything without a O-line????????????

When will these vain a-holes learn? They are destroying the team. Then DS will give a speech with the SuperBowl Trophies in front of him. He needs to keep those locked up until he wins one and stop acting like he was here when we got them!!!!!!!!!!! There is no "I" in team!! From the top to the bottom.


* Deangelo makes mistakes but he also makes plays. But as far as this he is telling the truth and I guess to some the truth hurts or they are in denial!!!

[SkinDogg]

[QUOTE=dmvskinzfan08;608436]
When will these vain a-holes learn? They are destroying the team. Then DS will give a speech with the SuperBowl Trophies in front of him. He needs to keep those locked up until he wins one and stop acting like he was here when we got them!!!!!!!!!!! There is no "I" in team!! QUOTE]

But in Snyder's world, there's "ME" in team. And sadly that's how it will always roll. Personally, I throw up a little everytime I see Snyder in the same room with those trophies.

[Ruhskins]

[quote=SkinDogg;611113]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

When will these vain a-holes learn? They are destroying the team. Then DS will give a speech with the SuperBowl Trophies in front of him. He needs to keep those locked up until he wins one and stop acting like he was here when we got them!!!!!!!!!!! There is no "I" in team!! QUOTE]

But in Snyder's world, there's "ME" in team. And sadly that's how it will always roll. Personally, I throw up a little everytime I see Snyder in the same room with those trophies.

Snyder is a business man who treats this football team like a business. He needs to start treat it like a football and not a business, period.

[Defensewins]

[quote=Ruhskins;611119]

Originally Posted by SkinDogg

Snyder is a business man who treats this football team like a business. He needs to start treat it like a football and not a business, period.

He has to have the humility to get out of the way and let a professional Football GM rebuild this team. The problem is he cant do it. He so wants to be a part of any success that he cant help himself.

[Ruhskins]

[quote=Defensewins;611125]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

He has to have the humility to get out of the way and let a professional Football GM rebuild this team. The problem is he cant do it. He so wants to be a part of any success that he cant help himself.

He needs to stop thinking like a business man.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

DeAngelo Hall is absolutely, 100% right. We ALL knew the offensive line was a weakness on the team. We ALL knew that the starters were aging and had a history of injuries. Yet, for some reason, we basically ignored the offensive line in the offseason (swapping Kendall for Dockery was basically a push).

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

DeAngelo Hall is absolutely, 100% right. We ALL knew the offensive line was a weakness on the team. We ALL knew that the starters were aging and had a history of injuries. Yet, for some reason, we basically ignored the offensive line in the offseason (swapping Kendall for Dockery was basically a push).

We should have kept Kendall and Jansen for one more year. They were old but they had experience. They could teach the young guys at least for one more year and then been dropped. FO are idiots!!

[MTK]

When he can tackle an ancient QB who can't run in the open field, then let's talk.