Riggins: Redskins organization has been taken hostage by a child

MTK · 10-26-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

How do you trade draft picks for free agents?

lol "bashing fail"

firstdown · 10-26-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Zorny

Not sure if you made this up but when did DS trade draft picks for a free agent.

SmootSmack · 10-26-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Not sure if you made this up but when did DS trade draft picks for a free agent.

restricted free agents maybe?

mlmdub130 · 10-26-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Not sure if you made this up but when did DS trade draft picks for a free agent.

i guess it's been a while but we did trade for a washed up d end named jason taylor and paid him a boat load as well as shipping off two draft picks to the doliphins if u want me to get a list of the rest i can

DynamiteRave · 10-22-2009, 09:36 PM

Tell us how you really feel, Riggo.

Paintrain · 10-22-2009, 11:31 PM

I didn't want to start a new thread with this one but Riggo's pretty scathing of Snyder in his most recent video. The last 20 seconds are priceless.

YouTube - Riggo: Has Danny Made-off?

saden1 · 10-23-2009, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

I didn't want to start a new thread with this one but Riggo's pretty scathing of Snyder in his most recent video. The last 20 seconds are priceless.

YouTube - Riggo: Has Danny Made-off?

That's some good stuff. Love it!

BrunellMVP? · 10-23-2009, 08:37 AM

Thank god for Riggo, Largent and Company (and the post)- we need people to keep the pressure applied.

Skinny Tee · 10-23-2009, 04:28 PM

Riggo's at it again...

At least watch the last 15 seconds...it's in the deep end but it's comical to me that Riggo is this pissed at ownership.

YouTube - Riggo: Has Danny Made-off?

munny · 10-26-2009, 10:43 AM

Snyder does not have the mindset of a child. Get off his back. Children have the capacity to learn. When they touch a hot stove and get burned, they don't do it again. Snyder is like a Homer Simpson cartoon where he just keeps touching the stove over and over and gets burned each time, but can't stop himself.

CRedskinsRule · 10-26-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by munny

Snyder does not have the mindset of a child. Get off his back. Children have the capacity to learn. When they touch a hot stove and get burned, they don't do it again. Snyder is like a Homer Simpson cartoon where he just keeps touching the stove over and over and gets burned each time, but can't stop himself.

I hate the Snyder bashing. It's easy and unfulfilling.

Snyder tried buying over the hill free agents - FAIL
Snyder now buys younger better free agents - win
Snyder then tried buying high priced coaching - FAIL
Snyder then tried young new coaching -FAIL

He has learned over time, and I will be shocked if his next high price acquisition is not a top notch GM, and go from there.

People (by that I means most media and skins fans) are so irrational when it comes to evaluating Snyder's history and how he has reacted to his failures. Yes he has failed alot, but not because he keeps repeating the same mistake, instead he makes new ones that pre-suppose lessons learned from the last errors. Does anyone think that you walk in to a multibillion dollar enterprise, where you have no respected mentor or counterpart and just get it right? Doesn't happen. I also think DS tried to emulate JJ's style of ownership. I hope he sees that also as a failure and looks to other more successful and stable franchises.

ok, we now return you to the irrational channel.

Trample the Elderly · 10-26-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I hate the Snyder bashing. It's easy and unfulfilling.

Snyder tried buying over the hill free agents - FAIL
Snyder now buys younger better free agents - win
Snyder then tried buying high priced coaching - FAIL
Snyder then tried young new coaching -FAIL

He has learned over time, and I will be shocked if his next high price acquisition is not a top notch GM, and go from there.

People (by that I means most media and skins fans) are so irrational when it comes to evaluating Snyder's history and how he has reacted to his failures. Yes he has failed alot, but not because he keeps repeating the same mistake, instead he makes new ones that pre-suppose lessons learned from the last errors. Does anyone think that you walk in to a multibillion dollar enterprise, where you have no respected mentor or counterpart and just get it right? Doesn't happen. I also think DS tried to emulate JJ's style of ownership. I hope he sees that also as a failure and looks to other more successful and stable franchises.

ok, we now return you to the irrational channel.

Joe Gibbs Racing = Three NASCAR Championships. Sorry buddy, we're on the life-boats already. Why don't you come on over? We have some MREs and beer too!

CRedskinsRule · 10-26-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Joe Gibbs Racing = Three NASCAR Championships. Sorry buddy, we're on the life-boats already. Why don't you come on over? We have some MREs and beer too!

Tramp, I hear ya, and yes Gibbs is not Snyder, or better said, Snyder is no Gibbs. You have to look at the beginning product in order to see the progress. Snyder was not ready to be an NFL owner, and definitely not the Redskins owner, when he bought the team. He has made a billion and one mistakes. I believe most people would make similar, or non-similar but just as bad. Assuming he is learning, he will move Vinny out and get a real GM, that is what I was trying to show in my progressions earlier. People who say he hasn't learned just are taking an easy attack. He has learned, but he isn't where we all want him to be.

I will pass on the MRE's, unless they've improved. Beer, pass the next round.

munny · 10-26-2009, 11:10 AM

No, he has not learned. He has never learned the one simple lesson -- good teams are built from the ground up ... then accented with a few free agents. He should have learned that lesson after his first spending bonanza back in the Deion days. But he did not, and will not in my opinion. If you can't figure it out in the first 12 years, why would you now. He does not have the patience to build a team right, or too simply hire the best people and let them do there jobs.

You are right about one thing though -- he does worship Jerry Jones. That in itself is an epic fail. Jones has not had success in a decade + either. Yet, the Colts, Pats, Giants and Steelers have shown how to build consisent teams that compete year after year. They use free agents as the final piece of the puzzle, not the foundation. Young, less injury prone talent is the ticket, but it does not come over night. I doubt Snyder would let any GM be anything but a figure head. I sincerely doubt he will ever fire Cerrato. He might "retitle" him, but he won't cut him lose. Instead of patterning himself after winners, he emulates losers. Might work in marketing, might work in baseball, but football just doesn't roll like that.

Dan Snyder --- epic fail.

hooskins · 10-26-2009, 12:40 PM

Fat Albert..lol. Hey hey heyyy

10-22-2009, 09:36 PM	#5
DynamiteRave Living Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 39 Posts: 16,867	Re: Riggins: Redskins organization has been taken hostage by a child Tell us how you really feel, Riggo. __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I've been a part of this message board for 17 years. Damn I'm old.

10-22-2009, 11:31 PM	#6
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 55 Posts: 5,006	Re: Riggins: Redskins organization has been taken hostage by a child I didn't want to start a new thread with this one but Riggo's pretty scathing of Snyder in his most recent video. The last 20 seconds are priceless. YouTube - Riggo: Has Danny Made-off? __________________ Paintrain's Redskins Fandom 1981-2014 I'm not dead but this team is dead to me...but now that McCloughan is here they may have new life! Jay Gruden = Zorny McSpurrier Kirk Cousins = Next Grossman

10-23-2009, 08:37 AM	#8
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	Re: Riggins: Redskins organization has been taken hostage by a child Thank god for Riggo, Largent and Company (and the post)- we need people to keep the pressure applied. __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

10-23-2009, 04:28 PM	#9
Skinny Tee The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Redskins Nation Posts: 1,715	Re: Riggins: Redskins organization has been taken hostage by a child Riggo's at it again... At least watch the last 15 seconds...it's in the deep end but it's comical to me that Riggo is this pissed at ownership. YouTube - Riggo: Has Danny Made-off? __________________ Redskinsly, _________Skinny Tee_________

10-26-2009, 10:43 AM	#10
munny Camp Scrub Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 94	Re: Riggins: Redskins organization has been taken hostage by a child Snyder does not have the mindset of a child. Get off his back. Children have the capacity to learn. When they touch a hot stove and get burned, they don't do it again. Snyder is like a Homer Simpson cartoon where he just keeps touching the stove over and over and gets burned each time, but can't stop himself.

10-26-2009, 11:10 AM	#14
munny Camp Scrub Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 94	Re: Riggins: Redskins organization has been taken hostage by a child No, he has not learned. He has never learned the one simple lesson -- good teams are built from the ground up ... then accented with a few free agents. He should have learned that lesson after his first spending bonanza back in the Deion days. But he did not, and will not in my opinion. If you can't figure it out in the first 12 years, why would you now. He does not have the patience to build a team right, or too simply hire the best people and let them do there jobs. You are right about one thing though -- he does worship Jerry Jones. That in itself is an epic fail. Jones has not had success in a decade + either. Yet, the Colts, Pats, Giants and Steelers have shown how to build consisent teams that compete year after year. They use free agents as the final piece of the puzzle, not the foundation. Young, less injury prone talent is the ticket, but it does not come over night. I doubt Snyder would let any GM be anything but a figure head. I sincerely doubt he will ever fire Cerrato. He might "retitle" him, but he won't cut him lose. Instead of patterning himself after winners, he emulates losers. Might work in marketing, might work in baseball, but football just doesn't roll like that. Dan Snyder --- epic fail.

10-26-2009, 12:40 PM	#15
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 39 Posts: 8,606	Re: Riggins: Redskins organization has been taken hostage by a child Fat Albert..lol. Hey hey heyyy __________________ Vacancy

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