Snyder Hires Shanahan Not the GM

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

At the risk of sounding like a dick, anyone who cannot recognize that Allen/Shanahan is the best thing that's happened to this franchise since '93 is a moron.

We've all been screaming for a 'football guy' which Allen clearly is. We clearly need a powerful, respected head coach, which Shanahan clearly is. Look, Snyder is going to be involved at some level. Get used to it or get over it. I'm choosing to believe that he's going to let Shanahallen do their thing and not micro-manage them.

If I'm proven wrong then blast me for being naive but the negative nellies who will find something wrong with everything the franchise does are really annoying.

I've got no problem with some skepticism. We've been doing the same song and dance for the last 10 years. So until we see some proof of real change, I can understand why there will be doubters. But yeah some of this stuff just rings a little hollow with me. Just sounds like complaining for the sake of complaining.

[murphy196]

Paintrain Re: Snyder Hires Shanahan Not the GM
At the risk of sounding like a dick, anyone who cannot recognize that Allen/Shanahan is the best thing that's happened to this franchise since '93 is a moron.

We've all been screaming for a 'football guy' which Allen clearly is. We clearly need a powerful, respected head coach, which Shanahan clearly is. Look, Snyder is going to be involved at some level. Get used to it or get over it. I'm choosing to believe that he's going to let Shanahallen do their thing and not micro-manage them.

If I'm proven wrong then blast me for being naive but the negative nellies who will find something wrong with everything the franchise does are really annoying.

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BEST POST EVER!!!!

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I've got no problem with some skepticism. We've been doing the same song and dance for the last 10 years. So until we see some proof of real change, I can understand why there will be doubters. But yeah some of this stuff just rings a little hollow with me. Just sounds like complaining for the sake of complaining.

Exactly, with some people around here Snyder is damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't... It's a no win situation to some people with Snyder...

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Exactly, with some people around here Snyder is damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't... It's a no win situation to some people with Snyder...

This also.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Exactly, with some people around here Snyder is damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't... It's a no win situation to some people with Snyder...

Well, actually its a 72 win and 96 loss thing. That's what it boils down to - until those number turns around, Snyder will be lambasted.

With that said, I agree with Paintrain and think "Best post ever" sentiment.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

At the risk of sounding like a dick, anyone who cannot recognize that Allen/Shanahan is the best thing that's happened to this franchise since '93 is a moron.

We've all been screaming for a 'football guy' which Allen clearly is. We clearly need a powerful, respected head coach, which Shanahan clearly is. Look, Snyder is going to be involved at some level. Get used to it or get over it. I'm choosing to believe that he's going to let Shanahallen do their thing and not micro-manage them.

If I'm proven wrong then blast me for being naive but the negative nellies who will find something wrong with everything the franchise does are really annoying.

Agreed. I do not frown on Synder for this move at all. I am in fact enthralled to see what this team can do. Shannahan and Allen are going to be a good combo and I am not going to fault Synder for putting them together. Who else would have taken care of this? The only person in the organization after Vinny left to get these 2 guys to run our franchise is Dan. Don't fault him for bringing in 2 quality guys to run the Redskins for the future.

[Longtimefan]

The hiring of Allen and perhaps Shanahan in the coming hours or days is a designed effort to help gain back much of what has been lost over the last couple of years.

Mr Snyder has made an effort to "give the people what they want", he's fired Vinny, hired a competent GM, and a more than qualified coach is in the making. I'm content to see where it goes from here.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by CRT3

I am afraid to say everybody is missing the point. The desire to have a GM who is responsible for everything in the organization is being circumvented already. This is Dan's hire (Shanahan) and this will not be called out till the next season or the one after that is another failure. As fans many of us have expressed our views to have the owner step aside but it is clear that this is business as usual at Redskin Park.

Just curious what other peoples thoughts are on this. While I love that Shanahan is a discipline guided coach who generally has great offensive schemes he has a history of some bad things. Hiring the wrong Defensive Coordinator, only winning Super Bowls with a QB named Elway, and an ego the size of the Rocky Mountains.

I think............Zorn and Vinny are available. Did you you wanna' give em a shout?
Wait ....a minute....Vinnie????

[SkinEmAll]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Exactly, with some people around here Snyder is damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't... It's a no win situation to some people with Snyder...

Isnt that the truth, and its everywhere thruout Redskins nation. The Wash Post insider is the worst as far as people busting dannys balls for everything. I personally felt his press release statment about being aware of his past mistakes and a commitment to change has me a little excited and I truly believe he is going to change the way things have been done to help this team for the better, so I for one am going out on a limb and say that this really is gonna be a new and improved era of Redskins football starting with the owner himself.

[53Fan]

Hail To The Redskins!

[dblanch66]

For those who are unhappy with the hiring of Allen and Shanahan, I'm curious to hear what alternative strategy YOU think would be better for the team right now. All ears. Let's hear it.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CRT3

I am afraid to say everybody is missing the point. The desire to have a GM who is responsible for everything in the organization is being circumvented already. This is Dan's hire (Shanahan) and this will not be called out till the next season or the one after that is another failure. As fans many of us have expressed our views to have the owner step aside but it is clear that this is business as usual at Redskin Park.

Just curious what other peoples thoughts are on this. While I love that Shanahan is a discipline guided coach who generally has great offensive schemes he has a history of some bad things. Hiring the wrong Defensive Coordinator, only winning Super Bowls with a QB named Elway, and an ego the size of the Rocky Mountains.

I think your post is a very good one. I was struck by the same thing: Danny really wanted Shanny, this is Snyder's hire, not Allen's.

But then I realized that it is not an either/or but a both/and. Weeks ago it was made public that Allen and Shanahan were a package deal. So Shanny is Allen's boy, too, not just Danny's. Put differently: Subtract Snyder from the equation and Allen still would hire Shanahan.

[Player_HTTR]

To think the owner does not play a huge role in the selection of a head coach is just nuts. If I am the owner, and want to stay out of on the field stuff I am still going to be very involved in hiring the GM and HC and making sure the two can work well together. The rest is up to them, still staying involved enough to know what is going on without grabbing the reins.

That being said, I am just glad we haven't started hiring staff before the HC. I don't know if Shanny will take the Skins to the promise land, but it is a step in the right direction.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SkinEmAll

Isnt that the truth, and its everywhere thruout Redskins nation. The Wash Post insider is the worst as far as people busting dannys balls for everything. I personally felt his press release statment about being aware of his past mistakes and a commitment to change has me a little excited and I truly believe he is going to change the way things have been done to help this team for the better, so I for one am going out on a limb and say that this really is gonna be a new and improved era of Redskins football starting with the owner himself.

Keep in mind the fact that much of this new crusade we have embarked upon has a lot to do with damage control. In an effort to insure that irreparable damage didn't ultimately insue, changes more to the liking of the people was neccessary. I give Mr Snyder credit for compromise, and realizing that if he didn't make changes he was running the risk of losing a portion of what has made him successful over the years. Most see this as an effort to put that risk to rest.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by dblanch66

For those who are unhappy with the hiring of Allen and Shanahan, I'm curious to hear what alternative strategy YOU think would be better for the team right now. All ears. Let's hear it.

Careful what you ask for bro! Some of the whiners are going to start offering up their philosophies that have been tried and tested in Madden Franchise mode.