Please Define A "True Number One" Receiver

tootergray34 · 03-19-2010, 03:46 AM

Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitz, ect...you can probably throw Marshall in that mix...but I'd take those 3 ahead of him. And pretty soon to be AJ Green and Julio Jones in that mix...next years draft will have 2 great WR's in it.

tryfuhl · 03-19-2010, 08:34 AM

Can make big plays
Can run all of the routes
If he's single covered the announcers ask why the safety missed his assignment or the D play call was wrong
Very consistent catcher

#56fanatic · 03-19-2010, 08:43 AM

my idea is an Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald. These guys can get open even if the D knows they are the #1 guys and try to double, try to play one under/one over. We haven't had that since Gary Clark. I have said for years Santana is NOT a #1 receiver in the NFL. He is a decent #2, but with our talent at WR now, Thomas, Kelly, Mitchel, I would trade his ass. I think we could get something for him. Someone still sees some value in him. We haven't won a damn thing with him, so i'd get rid of him and let the younger guys play and develop. This obviously isn't a one year fix, he isn't in our future plans so I'd get something now

SmootSmack · 03-19-2010, 08:57 AM

You have to demand the ball, insist on a new contract in the midst of your current contract, show creativity an excess in your touchdown celebrations and have your own reality show, otherwise don't talk to me

tryfuhl · 03-19-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You have to demand the ball, insist on a new contract in the midst of your current contract, show creativity an excess in your touchdown celebrations and have your own reality show, otherwise don't talk to me

Sorry SmootSmack is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her.

SmootSmack · 03-19-2010, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Sorry SmootSmack is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her.

You don't have to ignore me...I'll just ignore you

joethiesmanfan · 03-19-2010, 09:28 AM

To me a number one receiver is not an acheivement honor like the Pro Bowl. It jsut means you are the first reciever targeted by the QB.

MTK · 03-19-2010, 09:32 AM

There's probably only a handful of guys in the league that are true #1's using the criteria some are laying out.

Hate to be vague, but speaking very generally your #1 is simply your best receiving option on the team.

tryfuhl · 03-19-2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You don't have to ignore me...I'll just ignore you

mod ethics!

SBXVII · 03-19-2010, 10:09 AM

Above all wear a jersey with the #1 on it.

I mean why sell yourself short if your a number 1 WR then wear the number.

but if the NFL won't let them wear the number then a decent back up is #81. However if said number is retired then .... we are just left with out a #1 WR.

SBXVII · 03-19-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You have to demand the ball, insist on a new contract in the midst of your current contract, show creativity an excess in your touchdown celebrations and have your own reality show, otherwise don't talk to me

LOL 100% true. Usually the most talented players at any one position, and it doesn't matter if it's RB, CB, S, WR, TE, or whatever their cocky and think they deserve better or more money. So no matter who you bring in they will be prima dona's.

All joking aside if you are looking for a #1 at any position but since we are talking WR your gunna get a prima dona, some one cocky, and as most have said someone who is the go to guy when a 1st down or TD is needed. It's not guarenteed they will make the play but again other teams have to build their whole defensive scheme around your WR maybe even double teaming him to allow other players to be put one-on-one. Another example would be AH. Although some people feel he didn't do much I look at him and say he did his job. He took on double teams all year allowing other lineman to be either free or man-to-man to creat sacks. AH did that.

SBXVII · 03-19-2010, 10:20 AM

Maybe Marco Mitchell is our guy? He's got the size he just needs to build some body mass and perfect his route running and he's a shoe in. Laugh all you want I still see T.O. as a #1. He's not a #1 at the high end but he's still a #1 and most teams would have to game plan around him if we picked him up and had a decent passing scheme. The Bills sucked as well as their passing scheme. So T.O. didn't look so good last year. But double teaming T.O. would open up the field for Moss or DT or Kelly and Mitchell.

I'm not advocating for or against T.O. simply put all the FA #1 WR's are taken and T.O. is the last that would not require us to throw in a draft pick or a bunch of players. Unfortunatly he's the best of the last. Pick him up for a 2 year deal and heavily coach up DT, Kelly, and Mitchell.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 03-19-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Being the receiver in the mix that commands the maximum attention from the defense, and be able to alter the outcome of games with their sheer natural abilities.....The player DC's have to specifically game plan for to combat the threat they pose.

That's the single criteria for being a true #1.

celts32 · 03-19-2010, 11:05 AM

A #1 WR is someone that makes the defense shift it's coverages. If you don't have a WR that requires a double team then the defense can play it straight up and they have the advantage. All the yardage, pro bowls and TD's requirements are nonsense...basically the defenses decide who is really a #1 WR based on how they play you. Moss was probably a #1 briefly in 2005 but other then that I would guess you have to go all the way back to Gary Clark to find a true #1 WR on the Redskins.

joethiesmanfan · 03-19-2010, 11:22 AM

Okay, committ to cover Moss one on one and guess what's gonna win that game.

03-19-2010, 03:46 AM	#16
tootergray34 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 681	Re: Please Define A "True Number One" Receiver Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitz, ect...you can probably throw Marshall in that mix...but I'd take those 3 ahead of him. And pretty soon to be AJ Green and Julio Jones in that mix...next years draft will have 2 great WR's in it.

03-19-2010, 08:34 AM	#17
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 41 Posts: 12,514	Re: Please Define A "True Number One" Receiver Can make big plays Can run all of the routes If he's single covered the announcers ask why the safety missed his assignment or the D play call was wrong Very consistent catcher

03-19-2010, 08:43 AM	#18
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 50 Posts: 1,801	Re: Please Define A "True Number One" Receiver my idea is an Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald. These guys can get open even if the D knows they are the #1 guys and try to double, try to play one under/one over. We haven't had that since Gary Clark. I have said for years Santana is NOT a #1 receiver in the NFL. He is a decent #2, but with our talent at WR now, Thomas, Kelly, Mitchel, I would trade his ass. I think we could get something for him. Someone still sees some value in him. We haven't won a damn thing with him, so i'd get rid of him and let the younger guys play and develop. This obviously isn't a one year fix, he isn't in our future plans so I'd get something now

03-19-2010, 08:57 AM	#19
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Please Define A "True Number One" Receiver You have to demand the ball, insist on a new contract in the midst of your current contract, show creativity an excess in your touchdown celebrations and have your own reality show, otherwise don't talk to me __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-19-2010, 09:28 AM	#22
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Re: Please Define A "True Number One" Receiver To me a number one receiver is not an acheivement honor like the Pro Bowl. It jsut means you are the first reciever targeted by the QB.

03-19-2010, 09:32 AM	#23
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Re: Please Define A "True Number One" Receiver There's probably only a handful of guys in the league that are true #1's using the criteria some are laying out. Hate to be vague, but speaking very generally your #1 is simply your best receiving option on the team. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-19-2010, 10:09 AM	#25
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Please Define A "True Number One" Receiver Above all wear a jersey with the #1 on it. I mean why sell yourself short if your a number 1 WR then wear the number. but if the NFL won't let them wear the number then a decent back up is #81. However if said number is retired then .... we are just left with out a #1 WR.

03-19-2010, 10:20 AM	#27
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Please Define A "True Number One" Receiver Maybe Marco Mitchell is our guy? He's got the size he just needs to build some body mass and perfect his route running and he's a shoe in. Laugh all you want I still see T.O. as a #1. He's not a #1 at the high end but he's still a #1 and most teams would have to game plan around him if we picked him up and had a decent passing scheme. The Bills sucked as well as their passing scheme. So T.O. didn't look so good last year. But double teaming T.O. would open up the field for Moss or DT or Kelly and Mitchell. I'm not advocating for or against T.O. simply put all the FA #1 WR's are taken and T.O. is the last that would not require us to throw in a draft pick or a bunch of players. Unfortunatly he's the best of the last. Pick him up for a 2 year deal and heavily coach up DT, Kelly, and Mitchell.

03-19-2010, 11:05 AM	#29
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 53 Posts: 2,665	Re: Please Define A "True Number One" Receiver A #1 WR is someone that makes the defense shift it's coverages. If you don't have a WR that requires a double team then the defense can play it straight up and they have the advantage. All the yardage, pro bowls and TD's requirements are nonsense...basically the defenses decide who is really a #1 WR based on how they play you. Moss was probably a #1 briefly in 2005 but other then that I would guess you have to go all the way back to Gary Clark to find a true #1 WR on the Redskins. __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

03-19-2010, 11:22 AM	#30
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Re: Please Define A "True Number One" Receiver Okay, committ to cover Moss one on one and guess what's gonna win that game.

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