Just plain awful, Detriot Loins.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Does Dockery count if he came back?

Well, considering Cooley isn't on his rookie deal anymore, I'd say he has to.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

It's still crazy to think just how bad Millen was there.

I find it amusing to see him on ESPN as.......NFL expert. I mean if the dude knew an F..n thing about football, would they be in the shape they are??
Chief Z could give far more accurate insight

[SmootSmack]

Millen was a great NFL player and at one point many thought him the heir apparent to Madden as the pre-eminent color commentator. He's a really sharp NFL mind...which is why his tenure in Detroit is such a head-scratcher

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I find it amusing to see him on ESPN as.......NFL expert. I mean if the dude knew an F..n thing about football, would they be in the shape they are??Chief Z could give far more accurate insight

Yeah everytime I see him I've got to laugh. I find it funny ESPN hired him to me they loose some credibility.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I find it amusing to see him on ESPN as.......NFL expert. I mean if the dude knew an F..n thing about football, would they be in the shape they are??
Chief Z could give far more accurate insight

His commentary is always pretty good to me, I don't think because he was a bad GM it precludes his opinions as an analyst. They are two completely seperate things.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Millen was a great NFL player and at one point many thought him the heir apparent to Madden as the pre-eminent color commentator. He's a really sharp NFL mind...which is why his tenure in Detroit is such a head-scratcher

Not really. Being a great player doesn't mean you know how to draft and build a franchise. He was a great commentator, but there your experience as a player is more directly related to what you do. Building a winning team means being able to manage personnel, money, and be good at politics at the same time. Millen's name was pushed around a couple years before he took the Lions job and I thought those folks were morons at the time. I don't think Madden could have pulled it off(making the Lions winners), and he was a HOF coach. Millen was the GM equivalent of Zorny as HC, totally in over his head.

[saden1]

Maybe they're doing the right thing for once...cleaning up after the Matt Millen disaster-filled-era.

The sad part is they beat the Skins.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by saden1

Maybe they're doing the right thing for once...cleaning up after the Matt Millen disaster-filled-era.

The sad part is they beat the Skins.

Small sample size. That loss means nothing

Back me up Tripp.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Small sample size. That loss means nothing

Back me up Tripp.

I will back you up Bro. It did mean nothing, excpet for utter failure, the loss of Zorn's job, and the Vinny stepping the f down as head idiot. Looking back on it the loss to the lions set this whole ball of awesome rolling!!


BUT the loss means nothing to us this year.

[johno]

man, i thought it was tough being a skins fan. poor loins

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Small sample size. That loss means nothing

Back me up Tripp.

Yeah! In fact, it's better that we lost to the Lions because...because...

I've got nothing.

[MTK]

One loss out of how many recent games with the Lions?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Small sample size. That loss means nothing

Back me up Tripp.

That loud thuuuuud!!!!! after that loss was us hitting the bottom. I will never forget how sh*tty and embarrassed I felt after that game...the cell phone going off, the next day back at work...that was lowest ive been in 25 years of being a Skins fanatic....hopefully I will be able to reference that moment as the turning point in the SKins franchise where the Shanny/Allen era began and put us back on top

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

One loss out of how many recent games with the Lions?

And I just had to be there. Had a lil too much to drink and ended up walking most of the way back up to 10 mile. I was in row 4 behind the Skins bench, not sure I ever posted the pics though my batts died shortly into the game.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

One loss out of how many recent games with the Lions?

We beat them 23 times in a row I believe...it was bound to happen eventually.