Question about IDs for alcohol...

tryfuhl · 08-02-2010, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Yeah, the laws are really fuzzy and stupid. A few weeks ago I was in the liquor store, and I saw a guy who looked like he was in his mid-20's, and he had a younger guy with him who was probably 14-15 years old. They wouldn't sell him beer because the 14-15 year old wasn't of age, even though the older guy had his ID. He was like, "he's my little brother, the beer is for my dad and I for our cookout." The clerk didn't care.

Then I see a mother probably in her mid-40's who is with her clearly underage son, she's buys a case of wine, and the clerk didn't even bat an eye. WTF???

exact same scenario happened to me with lol bro getting stuff for BBQ.. in VA it's not law.. there are actually somfe interesting nuances I'll get into when I'm on the computer instead of phone

Trample the Elderly · 08-02-2010, 12:35 PM

Sometimes this country can be so childish. In Europe and Asia no one gives a shit if you drink or how old you are when you chose to do it. It's no big deal. Over here it's a big deal, thus kids want the forbidden fruit, and binge when they do get it.

BDBohnzie · 08-02-2010, 05:50 PM

List of alcohol laws of the United States by state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

State of Delaware states that no person under 21 can even go into a liquor store.

I would imagine any ID'ing of individuals in an establishment beyond the person purchasing is set by the establishment themselves. Just covering their asses.

TheMalcolmConnection · 08-02-2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

List of alcohol laws of the United States by state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

State of Delaware states that no person under 21 can even go into a liquor store.

I would imagine any ID'ing of individuals in an establishment beyond the person purchasing is set by the establishment themselves. Just covering their asses.

I can see that, but why even have a policy to card both parties when it's so easily gotten around? It just makes a giant hassle for everyone involved. Often, my wife doesn't even bring her purse in to stores. We just know we have to at Kroger because they're being giant d-bags.

BDBohnzie · 08-02-2010, 09:16 PM

It's a hassle yes, but they are covering their asses. And being in a college town, I would imagine they get underage drinkers by the bus full in there all the time with of-age adults buying them booze. If they keep their liquor license because they card everyone in line, then you still have the option of buying your 30 of Keystone Light when you get groceries. If they get busted, you'll have to make a 2nd stop, like the rest of us schleps here in Maryland (well, certain counties anyways).

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 08-02-2010, 10:19 PM

Shoot I just turned 21 in February and I've never been carded. I was buying Alcohol (be it rubbing or otherwise) Since I was 17. It must be the beard.

ArtMonkDrillz · 08-03-2010, 11:17 AM

I swear I get carded more often buying video games than I do buying booze, and I'm 27 and I look 27.

I have one liquor store near my house that I used to go to a lot and I can only remember being carded there one time. I was chewing gum and for some reason as I was waiting for the guy to swipe my card I blew a big bubble and the guy instantly asked for my ID. I guess that goes to show you, people won't respect you as an adult if you're blowing bubbles with your gum.

Trample the Elderly · 08-03-2010, 03:37 PM

Alcohol and drugs are readily available at any age at any time, if the price is right. To pretend they aren't is idiotic.

Monkeydad · 08-03-2010, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Sometimes this country can be so childish. In Europe and Asia no one gives a shit if you drink or how old you are when you chose to do it. It's no big deal. Over here it's a big deal, thus kids want the forbidden fruit, and binge when they do get it.

They also like soccer over there.

saden1 · 08-03-2010, 04:20 PM

In some states it is the law that you show ID regardless of how old you look and in other's it's left to the discretion of the establishments. Most establishment in WA will always card you because of the potential for fines and imprisonment. ID everyone...better safe than sorry...seems reasonable.

over the mountain · 08-03-2010, 05:02 PM

state laws are really strict on serving alcohol. last year i know that this kinda new bartender at this real nice bar/restaurant. they were packed. this guy comes up and orders 2 beers. bartender asks for id, looks at it, the guy is over 21 gives him the 2 beers.

the guy was an undercover, busted the bartender for not asking for 2 ids since there were 2 beers. the bar tender as well as the establishment get somethign like a 1000 fine each.

i know you must ask for id before taking cash or handing over any alcohol as well.

the undercover stuff happens or they come into your place at 9:30 pm with their badges and ask to see your liq license even though you have it posted out on your front window b/c they constantly come by to harass you. they just want to come in, flash a badge and pull their shirt up so you can see their gun. pretty f'in lame how some of the younger guys act. then they will try and small talk and hit on the ladies. f'in herbs.

Trample the Elderly · 08-03-2010, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster

They also like soccer over there.

I didn't say they did everything right.

They have whores on the sides of the road too.

Honestly, if a kid can go off and die in the military, who is to say he can't smoke a joint or drink a beer? What's more immoral, catching a buzz or shooting people?

Longtimefan · 08-03-2010, 07:34 PM

A friend of mine runs a beer and wine store here in Maryland only three blocks from my house. He make a point of carding anyome who looks to be under age, or anywhere close to it.

He has come very close to losing his license on more than one occasion for selling to underage patrons. The penalties are stiff and the fines are astronomical, merchants are now taking all necessary precautions to protect themselves.

DynamiteRave · 08-03-2010, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I didn't say they did everything right.

They have whores on the sides of the road too.

Honestly, if a kid can go off and die in the military, who is to say he can't smoke a joint or drink a beer? What's more immoral, catching a buzz or shooting people?

A long time ago the drinking age should've been dropped down to 18 instead of 21.

hooskins · 08-04-2010, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I didn't say they did everything right.

They have whores on the sides of the road too.

Honestly, if a kid can go off and die in the military, who is to say he can't smoke a joint or drink a beer? What's more immoral, catching a buzz or shooting people?

Agreed. Don't feel that way about soccer though.

08-02-2010, 12:35 PM	#17
Trample the Elderly Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Three Chopt Virginia Age: 47 Posts: 2,906	Re: Question about IDs for alcohol... Sometimes this country can be so childish. In Europe and Asia no one gives a shit if you drink or how old you are when you chose to do it. It's no big deal. Over here it's a big deal, thus kids want the forbidden fruit, and binge when they do get it. __________________ A funny thing happened on the way to the temple. The moneychangers bought the priesthood.

08-02-2010, 05:50 PM	#18
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 45 Posts: 4,628	Re: Question about IDs for alcohol... List of alcohol laws of the United States by state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia State of Delaware states that no person under 21 can even go into a liquor store. I would imagine any ID'ing of individuals in an establishment beyond the person purchasing is set by the establishment themselves. Just covering their asses. __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

08-02-2010, 09:16 PM	#20
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 45 Posts: 4,628	Re: Question about IDs for alcohol... It's a hassle yes, but they are covering their asses. And being in a college town, I would imagine they get underage drinkers by the bus full in there all the time with of-age adults buying them booze. If they keep their liquor license because they card everyone in line, then you still have the option of buying your 30 of Keystone Light when you get groceries. If they get busted, you'll have to make a 2nd stop, like the rest of us schleps here in Maryland (well, certain counties anyways). __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

08-02-2010, 10:19 PM	#21
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 35 Posts: 14,167	Re: Question about IDs for alcohol... Shoot I just turned 21 in February and I've never been carded. I was buying Alcohol (be it rubbing or otherwise) Since I was 17. It must be the beard. __________________ https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is.

08-03-2010, 11:17 AM	#22
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 42 Posts: 8,029	Re: Question about IDs for alcohol... I swear I get carded more often buying video games than I do buying booze, and I'm 27 and I look 27. I have one liquor store near my house that I used to go to a lot and I can only remember being carded there one time. I was chewing gum and for some reason as I was waiting for the guy to swipe my card I blew a big bubble and the guy instantly asked for my ID. I guess that goes to show you, people won't respect you as an adult if you're blowing bubbles with your gum. __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

08-03-2010, 03:37 PM	#23
Trample the Elderly Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Three Chopt Virginia Age: 47 Posts: 2,906	Re: Question about IDs for alcohol... Alcohol and drugs are readily available at any age at any time, if the price is right. To pretend they aren't is idiotic. __________________ A funny thing happened on the way to the temple. The moneychangers bought the priesthood.

08-03-2010, 04:20 PM	#25
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Question about IDs for alcohol... In some states it is the law that you show ID regardless of how old you look and in other's it's left to the discretion of the establishments. Most establishment in WA will always card you because of the potential for fines and imprisonment. ID everyone...better safe than sorry...seems reasonable. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

08-03-2010, 05:02 PM	#26
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: Question about IDs for alcohol... state laws are really strict on serving alcohol. last year i know that this kinda new bartender at this real nice bar/restaurant. they were packed. this guy comes up and orders 2 beers. bartender asks for id, looks at it, the guy is over 21 gives him the 2 beers. the guy was an undercover, busted the bartender for not asking for 2 ids since there were 2 beers. the bar tender as well as the establishment get somethign like a 1000 fine each. i know you must ask for id before taking cash or handing over any alcohol as well. the undercover stuff happens or they come into your place at 9:30 pm with their badges and ask to see your liq license even though you have it posted out on your front window b/c they constantly come by to harass you. they just want to come in, flash a badge and pull their shirt up so you can see their gun. pretty f'in lame how some of the younger guys act. then they will try and small talk and hit on the ladies. f'in herbs. __________________ Life is brutal, but beautiful

08-03-2010, 07:34 PM	#28
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Question about IDs for alcohol... A friend of mine runs a beer and wine store here in Maryland only three blocks from my house. He make a point of carding anyome who looks to be under age, or anywhere close to it. He has come very close to losing his license on more than one occasion for selling to underage patrons. The penalties are stiff and the fines are astronomical, merchants are now taking all necessary precautions to protect themselves.

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