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02-01-2011, 12:07 PM | #16 |
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Well then maybe Bush was right when he said after the middle east sees what freedom looks like it will spread. That was pretty much his theme in his second term. HMMMMMM
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02-02-2011, 01:40 PM | #17 |
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Should have known this would come down to a rock tossing event. Not sure when power has ever changed hands in the middle east without a good rock tossing event. I'd like to know where they get all of the rocks. Do they have chain Rocks-R-Us stores in the middle east? Sad to see.
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02-03-2011, 12:06 AM | #18 |
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Is anyone watching this thing going down today and now tonight. I worked late tonight but I've had the news on sense 9:00 watching several ch.
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02-03-2011, 01:54 PM | #19 |
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I'm surprised this thread is so dead with everything thats going on in the ME.
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02-03-2011, 05:15 PM | #20 |
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I think anyone who cares enough to know what is going on is probably confused what to think. On one hand it is clear that Mubarak is a goner. And should be. On the other hand the uprising has no form to it. No real leader or organizing force it seems. So the prospect of Mubarak leaving office and Egypt slipping into complete and utter chaos due to the lack of a functioning government is sort of terrifying. Uprising is certainly fine (especially in the name of freedom) but it has to come with some type of unified direction and be led by someone/thing that can take ownership of the changes. This situation has nothing like that. Just a bunch of frustrated people throwing rocks and getting mad. I tend to believe Muburak is right when says he can't step down because the place would turn even worse without him at this point.
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02-03-2011, 06:02 PM | #21 |
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Yeah, distress in the middle east doesnt seem like anything new to me, sadly. Hopefully they dont burn down the pymirds or the sphinx.
The one thing im kind of interested in is the whole Muslim Brotherhood thing. People on the right are pointing out all the extreme muslim type terrorist stuff that this group is either partly responsible for, or members of this group have done, or the connections with this group and flat terriorst groups. Then people on the left are saying theres nothing to worry about this group and are almost making the MB sound like a good proposition for control of Egypt and the middle east. Just sounds weird to me. |
02-03-2011, 06:16 PM | #22 | |
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02-03-2011, 06:46 PM | #23 |
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The people of Egypt should be able to freely elect who they want and if they happen to choose what we consider radicals so be it. Preventing their exercise of free will can only lead to further problems with less simple solutions (where we are today). I am not afraid of the Muslim Britherhood...it's much easier to watch on the sideline and yap than to lead.
What's that old republican adage? The government [of United States] shouldn't be in the business of picking winners and losers?
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02-03-2011, 06:59 PM | #24 |
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Egyptian helmet design...
These guys on the streets of Egypt have to be given credit for improvisation.
This guy has probably filled these bottles with gas and tossed them by now. This is the design for the hungry protester. You have heard the saying "fight fire with fire". I think this one has been through a few too many protest. Look no hands. Probably his wifes best pan but he looks proud wearing it. |
02-03-2011, 07:07 PM | #25 |
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02-04-2011, 02:29 AM | #26 | |
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02-04-2011, 11:52 AM | #27 | |
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We can hope that the end results are to the betterment of Egyptian people, but I think no matter what happens, the Mideast will become a much more unstable place in the short term. Anyone else wonder what kind of moment could send this thing catapulting out of control, to the point where Israel might feel threatened enough to do some rash/stupid reaction? |
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02-04-2011, 12:43 PM | #28 |
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Sounds like we got caught a little off-guard.
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02-04-2011, 04:13 PM | #29 |
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Yea, its Obama's fault and beacuae of that he should have to wear this for one week. Then eat the bread.
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With all of that said, it is extremely unlikely that the MB could seize power. While they are organized and get a lot of press, they are not a particularly large group numerically compared to the total population of Egypt. So if Egypt turned democratic, it is very unlikely that the MB would be a ruling party, although they may capture a seat or two in the legislature. El Baradei represents a rational and moderate Egyptian political voice. When all is said and done, I hope that he assumes power within a genuine Egyptian democracy. This would be good for us. If you follow terrorists, you know that they almost always come from places with autocratic regimes. Places like Turkey, which are both Muslim and democratic, produce far fewer terrorists. If I could, I would storm the palace and put Mubarak out on the streets TODAY. I would install a caretaking UN oversight committee to keep the government and economy viable. Then I would schedule democratic elections for as soon as possible and presume that El Baradei would win the elections.
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