Ramsey named 05' Starter

joecrisp · 12-20-2004, 11:03 PM

In addition to affirming his faith in Ramsey as the starter through 2004 and beyond, Gibbs also said (perhaps half-jokingly) he plans to have him throw downfield more in an attempt to at least try to get more PI's called on the opposing defense, to balance out what he suggested are phantom PI calls that are being called against the Skins defense on a regular basis.

Gibbs said he figures if they're going to call the PI's against the Skins defense so often, he needs to find out if they'll call them against the other guys, too.

Maybe Gibbs is finally figuring out that this is how so many other teams are racking up huge passing stats this year. Create the one-on-one matchups deep, and one of four things will happen: the receiver will catch the ball for a big gain/TD, the defender will pick it off, the ball will fall incomplete, or the ref will throw a flag-- most likely on the defender. It's basically a 50% shot at something good happening (catch or defensive penalty), 25% bad (interception), and 25% relatively inconsequential (incomplete pass-- though even an incomplete deep throw will at least make the defense think about keeping a safety deep).

At this point, maybe Gibbs feels like those are odds he should play, especially with the dividends it's paid to other offenses throughout the league.

Now that Ramsey's proving he can be a smart, efficient passer, maybe Gibbs is feeling more comfortable with the idea of taking the next step: developing his deep game.

skinsfanthru&thru · 12-21-2004, 12:32 AM

I'm liking how Ramsey has started to progress the past few games but he still has a lot of learning to do, so I'm not a 100% sold on this as of now. There's no telling what might happen between now and the beginning of next season but he hasn't shown that he should be handed the job no questions asked. I'm not saying we needed another huge signing, but I honestly don't think the patriots expected Tom Brady to be as good of a qb as he was when they drafted him in the 6th round that year and if someone out plays ramsey in the offseason next year then there's no reason there shouldn't be atleast somewhat of a competetion for the starting job. Handing someone a job for next season has a tendancy to leas to trouble and sometimes even complacency(sp?).

skinsguy · 12-21-2004, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

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LOL!!!

Excellent decision! Hopefully this will set alot of fans' minds at ease on the QB situation for next year. As far as Brunell goes, he seems like a nice guy who might stick around to be as a mentor to Ramsey; heck, it's not going to help us to get rid of him and it's still nice to have a veteran back-up with lot of game time experience. The ultimate thing though would be for Brunell to retire...I just don't think he's ready to do so yet.

MTK · 12-21-2004, 12:41 AM

Let's see how nice of a guy Brunell is, nice enough to restructure his deal perhaps?

skinsguy · 12-21-2004, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

but I honestly don't think the patriots expected Tom Brady to be as good of a qb as he was when they drafted him in the 6th round that year

That's something that you don't see very often...Tom Brady just happens to be one of those special players that didn't need a very long time to adjust to the NFL...but most of the time, there is going to be a period of adjustment....such as Payton Manning..he didn't have an explosive year his first year...neither did Farve!

It is a very good thing to say that Ramsey is our guy for next season! That is a big confidence boost for Patrick and I think that will allow Gibbs and company to help further his development along and by doing so, it also develops the offense along as well.

If someone comes by and out plays Patrick Ramsey and wins the job...hey I'm not complaining; I just want the Redskins to win!

NY_Skinsfan · 12-21-2004, 12:46 AM

i'm thinking that a big weight has been lifted off ramsey's back...even though he's played statistically better than brunell (who isn't?), he seems nervous or tentative at times. hopefully, having this fact out in the open will ease things for ramsey and we can see more of what he is really capable of.

skinsguy · 12-21-2004, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Let's see how nice of a guy Brunell is, nice enough to restructure his deal perhaps?

Hahahaha...I don't think ANYBODY in sports is THAT nice are they?

Daseal · 12-21-2004, 01:49 AM

Hey, Bobby Knight told Texas Tech not to pay him because he didn't get them to the tourny last year! You never know!

JWsleep · 12-21-2004, 02:33 AM

I think its good news. Let's build. Ramsey showed he was a pro when Brunell got the start. He hung in there and supported the team. Now the team is stepping up for him. He's not there yet, but he's definetly shown he's got the potential to flourish in GIbbs offense. Let's get that o-line up to snuff, maybe add another TE, and lets roll!

Now let's see how the kid handles success! That can be tough too!

Luxorreb · 12-21-2004, 06:22 AM

Great news!
Glad to see Gibbs giving credit were credit is due. Truthfully we start Patrick after game 3 and we're probably in the playoffs already by this point.

rickmmrr · 12-21-2004, 08:44 AM

Just Great news. Ramsey needs more experience and you can only get that one way. On the field. he's already winning games for us so he should only get better. Plus with an entire training camp next year with him as the starter . As I said he can only get better.

Plus the stability for the team. Great decision by coach Gibbs.

jbcjr14 · 12-21-2004, 08:58 AM

Gibbs=STABILITY and CONSISTENCY....everyone needs to pack their bags or at least have them ready in the next 12-24 months because the train to the promise land is going to be leaving!

MTK · 12-21-2004, 10:04 AM

I'm not so sure if starting PR earlier in the year would have made a difference.

He looked totally lost in the preseason and he admitted his confidence hit an all-time low.

I'm thinking Gibbs knew he needed to build Patrick back up a bit before throwing him in to the fire, and he also needed to grasp the offense better.

Putting him out there earlier in the year when he still didn't have a firm grasp of the offense could have buried his confidence even further and done more damage than good.

skinsguy · 12-21-2004, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Hey, Bobby Knight told Texas Tech not to pay him because he didn't get them to the tourny last year! You never know!

Ha, we all know Bobby Knight is horse of a different color!

skinsguy · 12-21-2004, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm not so sure if starting PR earlier in the year would have made a difference.

He looked totally lost in the preseason and he admitted his confidence hit an all-time low.

I'm thinking Gibbs knew he needed to build Patrick back up a bit before throwing him in to the fire, and he also needed to grasp the offense better.

Putting him out there earlier in the year when he still didn't have a firm grasp of the offense could have buried his confidence even further and done more damage than good.

That's exactly right! Patrick Ramsey admitted that he didn't have a firm grip of the offense earlier in the season, so that could be why we stayed with Brunell for so long. If Patrick had came in in those two games and played outstanding, then possibly he would have started earlier, but since that wasn't the case, Gibbs probably felt Ramsey needed more time on the bench. Anyway, its working out now and I am glad of it! Patrick has the chance now to develop into a great quarterback!

View Poll Results: What is your reaction to Ramsey being named the starter for 2005?
Great news!	53	72.60%
I'm pleased but not 100% sold on Ramsey just yet	18	24.66%
I think we need to look elsewhere	0	0%
Where's Mark Brunell?!	2	2.74%
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12-21-2004, 02:33 AM	#24
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,717	I think its good news. Let's build. Ramsey showed he was a pro when Brunell got the start. He hung in there and supported the team. Now the team is stepping up for him. He's not there yet, but he's definetly shown he's got the potential to flourish in GIbbs offense. Let's get that o-line up to snuff, maybe add another TE, and lets roll! Now let's see how the kid handles success! That can be tough too! __________________ Hail from Houston!

12-21-2004, 06:22 AM	#25
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 52 Posts: 1,630	Great news! Glad to see Gibbs giving credit were credit is due. Truthfully we start Patrick after game 3 and we're probably in the playoffs already by this point. __________________ ^21^

12-21-2004, 08:58 AM	#27
jbcjr14 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 54 Posts: 2,015	Gibbs=STABILITY and CONSISTENCY....everyone needs to pack their bags or at least have them ready in the next 12-24 months because the train to the promise land is going to be leaving! __________________ "Work Harder: millions on welfare are counting on you" - Obama 2009 address to Congress.

12-20-2004, 11:03 PM	#16
joecrisp The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Charlottesville, VA Age: 48 Posts: 1,501	In addition to affirming his faith in Ramsey as the starter through 2004 and beyond, Gibbs also said (perhaps half-jokingly) he plans to have him throw downfield more in an attempt to at least try to get more PI's called on the opposing defense, to balance out what he suggested are phantom PI calls that are being called against the Skins defense on a regular basis. Gibbs said he figures if they're going to call the PI's against the Skins defense so often, he needs to find out if they'll call them against the other guys, too. Maybe Gibbs is finally figuring out that this is how so many other teams are racking up huge passing stats this year. Create the one-on-one matchups deep, and one of four things will happen: the receiver will catch the ball for a big gain/TD, the defender will pick it off, the ball will fall incomplete, or the ref will throw a flag-- most likely on the defender. It's basically a 50% shot at something good happening (catch or defensive penalty), 25% bad (interception), and 25% relatively inconsequential (incomplete pass-- though even an incomplete deep throw will at least make the defense think about keeping a safety deep). At this point, maybe Gibbs feels like those are odds he should play, especially with the dividends it's paid to other offenses throughout the league. Now that Ramsey's proving he can be a smart, efficient passer, maybe Gibbs is feeling more comfortable with the idea of taking the next step: developing his deep game.

12-21-2004, 12:32 AM	#17
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	I'm liking how Ramsey has started to progress the past few games but he still has a lot of learning to do, so I'm not a 100% sold on this as of now. There's no telling what might happen between now and the beginning of next season but he hasn't shown that he should be handed the job no questions asked. I'm not saying we needed another huge signing, but I honestly don't think the patriots expected Tom Brady to be as good of a qb as he was when they drafted him in the 6th round that year and if someone out plays ramsey in the offseason next year then there's no reason there shouldn't be atleast somewhat of a competetion for the starting job. Handing someone a job for next season has a tendancy to leas to trouble and sometimes even complacency(sp?).

12-21-2004, 12:41 AM	#19
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Let's see how nice of a guy Brunell is, nice enough to restructure his deal perhaps?

12-21-2004, 12:46 AM	#21
NY_Skinsfan Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Albany, NY Age: 51 Posts: 838	i'm thinking that a big weight has been lifted off ramsey's back...even though he's played statistically better than brunell (who isn't?), he seems nervous or tentative at times. hopefully, having this fact out in the open will ease things for ramsey and we can see more of what he is really capable of.

12-21-2004, 01:49 AM	#23
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Hey, Bobby Knight told Texas Tech not to pay him because he didn't get them to the tourny last year! You never know!

12-21-2004, 08:44 AM	#26
rickmmrr Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 395	Just Great news. Ramsey needs more experience and you can only get that one way. On the field. he's already winning games for us so he should only get better. Plus with an entire training camp next year with him as the starter . As I said he can only get better. Plus the stability for the team. Great decision by coach Gibbs.

12-21-2004, 10:04 AM	#28
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	I'm not so sure if starting PR earlier in the year would have made a difference. He looked totally lost in the preseason and he admitted his confidence hit an all-time low. I'm thinking Gibbs knew he needed to build Patrick back up a bit before throwing him in to the fire, and he also needed to grasp the offense better. Putting him out there earlier in the year when he still didn't have a firm grasp of the offense could have buried his confidence even further and done more damage than good.

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