QB needy teams

skinsfaninok · 10-18-2011, 01:50 PM

All I know is when we ACTUALLY have a QB I'll be the happiest guy ever.. In my 20 years of being a Skins fan we have never had a Guy to call FRANCHISE. The only QB jersey I ever had was a damn Shuler jersey.. Thanks A lot mom

mooby · 10-18-2011, 01:51 PM

Now that we're 6 weeks into the season and we have an ok idea of who the bad teams are and who the good teams are, lets take a look at who might be interested in upgrading at quarterback next year. I'll start by listing all the teams with losing or .500 records at this point.

Winless
Colts - we can already assume if they end up with the first shot at Luck, they'll take him. And even if he isn't available, they might pick a qb anyways. So yes, they'll prob. look at qbs in the draft this year.
Rams - No, def. wouldn't take a qb.
Dolphins - yes, definitely would be interested in a qb. With a new head coach probably on his way in he'd def. want a qb he could mold in his image.

1 win teams -
Jags - no, don't think they'd take a qb. Too many holes on that team, even if they did think there was a qb out there better than Gabbert, which is doubtful.
Vikings - again, same thing here. Too many holes, already have Ponder, probably going to stick with him especially if he flashes potential for the rest of the season.
Panthers - nope. Need defensive help more than anything.
Broncos - hard call here. I don't think Fox likes Tebow but if Tebow plays well for the rest of the season it'd be hard to see them going qb here, especially since the rest of the team needs help.
Cards - another tough call. Kolb obviously isn't working out, and I have no idea if Whisenhunt is on a short leash or not. I'll say possibly.

2 win teams -
Chiefs - Haley looks like a lame duck coach, but they might keep him if he turns it around. Cassel hasn't played nearly as good this year as he did last year, so if a new coach comes in he might want a new qb. Possibly for this team too.
Browns - idk, tough call here. I don't know too much about how Shurmur and Holmgren feel about McCoy. Possibly?
Seahawks - I think we can all assume if they were in position to take an elite qb, they'd take him. Especially with Carroll's connections to a guy like Matt Barkley.
Cowboys - idk here either. Doubtful, but you never know. Another up and down year for Romo, or another crushing playoff loss, and they just might go younger. Again, doubtful imo, but it's hard to get a read here.
Eagles - do I really need to include them? I think they'll get things on the right track this season, because of their season saving win last week (thanks again, Skins), and they'd probably be wiser to invest in offensive line or linebackers. Vick has played up and down ball this year but he's the least of their problems.

.500 teams
Falcons - no. Just no.
Texans - maybe? Schaub certainly isn't their biggest problem. Doubtful but you never know, especially if Kubiak is let go if they go on a downward spiral from here on out.
Jets - The Sanchize certainly hasn't played up to his draft status this year, but doubtful here too.
Bears - nah, don't see it happening. QB isn't a need.

So I'll sum it up now.

Teams that need qbs:
Colts, Dolphins

Possibly:
Broncos, Cardinals, Chiefs, Browns, Seahawks

Possibly, but doubtful:
Cowboys, Texans

Leaning toward a heavy no:
Rams, Jaguars, Vikings, Panthers, Eagles, Falcons, Jets, Bears.

This is a very preliminary list, obviously there's 11 weeks left to go, anything can happen, some qb's will play poorly, some will fall out of favor, etc. But some of these qb holes will be filled through free agency, some through trades, and some through the draft. I'm definitely in favor of giving up a few picks if it means we get our guy for the next decade. But I think we should definitely go the draft route. I think I'll bump this thread once the season is over and we have a much more clear idea of draft order and who might want a qb.

sportscurmudgeon · 10-19-2011, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

Now that we're 6 weeks into the season and we have an ok idea of who the bad teams are and who the good teams are, lets take a look at who might be interested in upgrading at quarterback next year. I'll start by listing all the teams with losing or .500 records at this point.

Winless
Colts - we can already assume if they end up with the first shot at Luck, they'll take him. And even if he isn't available, they might pick a qb anyways. So yes, they'll prob. look at qbs in the draft this year.
Rams - No, def. wouldn't take a qb.
Dolphins - yes, definitely would be interested in a qb. With a new head coach probably on his way in he'd def. want a qb he could mold in his image.

1 win teams -
Jags - no, don't think they'd take a qb. Too many holes on that team, even if they did think there was a qb out there better than Gabbert, which is doubtful.
Vikings - again, same thing here. Too many holes, already have Ponder, probably going to stick with him especially if he flashes potential for the rest of the season.
Panthers - nope. Need defensive help more than anything.
Broncos - hard call here. I don't think Fox likes Tebow but if Tebow plays well for the rest of the season it'd be hard to see them going qb here, especially since the rest of the team needs help.
Cards - another tough call. Kolb obviously isn't working out, and I have no idea if Whisenhunt is on a short leash or not. I'll say possibly.

2 win teams -
Chiefs - Haley looks like a lame duck coach, but they might keep him if he turns it around. Cassel hasn't played nearly as good this year as he did last year, so if a new coach comes in he might want a new qb. Possibly for this team too.
Browns - idk, tough call here. I don't know too much about how Shurmur and Holmgren feel about McCoy. Possibly?
Seahawks - I think we can all assume if they were in position to take an elite qb, they'd take him. Especially with Carroll's connections to a guy like Matt Barkley.
Cowboys - idk here either. Doubtful, but you never know. Another up and down year for Romo, or another crushing playoff loss, and they just might go younger. Again, doubtful imo, but it's hard to get a read here.
Eagles - do I really need to include them? I think they'll get things on the right track this season, because of their season saving win last week (thanks again, Skins), and they'd probably be wiser to invest in offensive line or linebackers. Vick has played up and down ball this year but he's the least of their problems.

.500 teams
Falcons - no. Just no.
Texans - maybe? Schaub certainly isn't their biggest problem. Doubtful but you never know, especially if Kubiak is let go if they go on a downward spiral from here on out.
Jets - The Sanchize certainly hasn't played up to his draft status this year, but doubtful here too.
Bears - nah, don't see it happening. QB isn't a need.

So I'll sum it up now.

Teams that need qbs:
Colts, Dolphins

Possibly:
Broncos, Cardinals, Chiefs, Browns, Seahawks

Possibly, but doubtful:
Cowboys, Texans

Leaning toward a heavy no:
Rams, Jaguars, Vikings, Panthers, Eagles, Falcons, Jets, Bears.

This is a very preliminary list, obviously there's 11 weeks left to go, anything can happen, some qb's will play poorly, some will fall out of favor, etc. But some of these qb holes will be filled through free agency, some through trades, and some through the draft. I'm definitely in favor of giving up a few picks if it means we get our guy for the next decade. But I think we should definitely go the draft route. I think I'll bump this thread once the season is over and we have a much more clear idea of draft order and who might want a qb.

Good analysis...

I might disagree with you about the Jags and Blaine Gabbert. He has looked VERY RAW on the field and if he gets a dozen starts this year and still looks the way he does now, the Jags - - with a new coach next year almost assuredly - - might want to play in the QB lottery again.

Kolb is not really the problem in Arizona. The OL there is a sieve and Kolb's game is not scrambling - - whech is what he has to do in order to stay alive.

I think that the Chiefs, Browns and Seahawks are more "probably" than "possibly".

MTK · 10-18-2011, 02:27 PM

Henne is a guy worth looking at. He's been stuck on some bad offenses.

mlmpetert · 10-18-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Henne is a guy worth looking at. He's been stuck on some bad offenses.

Yeah im a Henne sympathizer. Im not sure what type of offense he would be suited for our type of offense by the guy does have skills and has shown he can overcome some pretty crappy situtations.

MTK · 10-18-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Yeah im a Henne sympathizer. Im not sure what type of offense he would be suited for our type of offense by the guy does have skills and has shown he can overcome some pretty crappy situtations.

Just on the surface he seems like a possible fit. He's athletic and mobile, big arm, hard working guy, etc.

SmootSmack · 10-18-2011, 02:34 PM

Well Rex is definitely (I think) gone after this year, and Beck likely returns. The past two years I've heard that we're taking a QB high (1st or 2nd round). Extenuating circumstances have kept that from happening...but of course, I'm hearing it again.

We can't go another year with drafting at least one QB in my opinion.

CRedskinsRule · 10-18-2011, 03:19 PM

I didn't think about Flynn, I would trade our 2nd and extra 4th for him in a heartbeat. I know the payday is big as well, but he has proven pretty good, and is ready to step in. I probably would go higher on the compensation as well, but would have to know where we fall in the draft.

Alvin Walton · 10-18-2011, 03:21 PM