Sex Abuse Scandal Rocks Penn State

[NC_Skins]

This is another case I support the death penalty for. Then again, being in jail as a child molester will be much more torture.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I'm going to pretend I didn't see this stupid statement.

He's going to pretend you can sense sarcasm

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

He's going to pretend you can sense sarcasm

****! Damn you Dirtbag!! ...lol


I thought at first, nah...this is a troll...then I started reading a bunch of shit from PSU fans similar...lol Either way, I feel like a jackass. Sorry DB.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

****! Damn you Dirtbag!! ...lol


I thought at first, nah...this is a troll...then I started reading a bunch of shit from PSU fans similar...lol Either way, I feel like a jackass. Sorry DB.

Lol. Part of me knows I shouldn't joke about this but it's so appalling that I at least have to do something to lighten the mood.

And there is some truth to what I said. Part of the reason Joe Pa has stayed as head coach for so long is he brings in a ridiculous amount of money from boosters. Penn State for years has been easily one of the most well funded football programs in the country, maybe even the most well funded, and apparently a huge part of that is Joe Pa's ability to solicit donations from boosters.

Anyway heres what I think should happen.

First they need to make sure that none of his kids were abused. This line scares the shit out of me

Since retirement, Sandusky has hosted many summer football camps and remains involved in The Second Mile, a children's charity he founded in State College, Pennsylvania in 1977.[6] His son, Jon Sandusky, serves as Director of Player Personnel for the Cleveland Browns.[7][8] Another son, E.J., is an assistant football coach at West Chester University.
Sandusky is married and has six adopted children.[9]

Second enough money needs to be set aside to make sure his wife and remaining minor children have enough money to send the kids to college..

After a necessary amount is determined the rest of his estate and assets should go to paying for pain and suffering towards every kid he's convicted of molesting.

Also Penn State should be held liable. They should be forced to pay for therapy, which unfortunately for all the victims needs to be mandatory since at the very least this experience untreated will put them all at risk for drug abuse, suicide, depression, and violence.

After that Penn State should also be forced to pay out settlements no less then six figures for every child for pain and suffering and also be forced to pay for the victims future college education at the school of their choice. The money they've gotten for football should make that easy.

Penn State football should also get double the punishment USC got for the Reggie Bush scandal. The only reason to keep them bowl eligible is to help raise more money for the victims.

Finally Joe Paterno needs to resign.

This whole incident is unacceptable.

[mlmpetert]

Shocking. I didnt read indictment because after reading a couple articles dont really want to read anymore. Im surprised it isnt as big of a story as it seems to be yet in the news. Tons of headlines are saying things like this is gonna chip away or tarnish his legacy.... Really thats it? He allowed a child predator to persist and is lying that he knew anything about it. Maybe i need to wait for more details to come out, but it sounds like joe was told about this and didnt do anything. I wonder how many more kids got raped when he looked the other way? Ive always been a big fan but if Paterno doesnt step down immediately hopefully the new AD will fire him immediately and anyone else who even heard rumors of this shit going on.

Amazing someone can see that kind of stuff first hand and not run to report it to the police. Or how when someone reports it to a higher up they dont immediately report it the police. Its like telling your boss the next day that there was a fire in the lockeroom, you dont do that, you just call the fire department immediately or try and put it out yourself. I mean what is there to think about or consider? Everyone that didnt report the rapes enabled future rapes of children to take place later on. Sick.

It does however make you think about the psychology or thought of a person seeing that kind of stuff happen and not intervening, calling the police or speaking up or doing anything about it when its effectively swept under the rug by someone above you. The power of conformity when people above you or your peers all look the other way has to play a roll in this. I think its easy for all of us to say we would have intervened or ran to the police, but when regular people from a janitor to a grad assistant to a wrestling coach all see things and dont report it maybe its harder to do what seems so intuitive otherwise.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This is another case I support the death penalty for. Then again, being in jail as a child molester will be much more torture.

He'd immediately request solitary. The other prisoners would beat his brains in before he could set foot in the door.

[NC_Skins]

Charity says cut ties with accused football coach - Yahoo! News

This sick mother ****er met his victims from the very charity he started to "help troubled boys." **** yes this guy should die and it should be public. I say shoot him, then hang him, then tattoo them, then kill him!!!

[mooby]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This is another case I support the death penalty for. Then again, being in jail as a child molester will be much more torture.

As bad as this sounds, what if the guy actually enjoys getting d in the a? We already know he gave a 10 year old kid oral, so there's no telling if he might enjoy taking it up the butt too. That's why I said there's just no justice possible whatsoever, because nothing you could do to this dude would bring any relief whatsoever to these kids who have been scarred by him.

[mooby]

Lavar Arrington's thoughts on the subject.

[djnemo65]

I will not argue that Paterno isn't culpable in this, although I think there's a human element to this story that's being obscured. Let's start with looking at Lavar's comments about his former coach Sandusky in the Washington Post (reprinted in the ESPN.com story):

"I'm perplexed as to how someone who did so much good could end up being accused of something so bad. I have my own kids, and I know how strongly I feel about them and protecting them from hurt, harm and danger. Selfishly I hope that Jerry is innocent, but if he isn't, as a parent my thought is may God show mercy on him ... On one side I want Jerry to be innocent because he was a great man to me, but on the other side, as a responsible parent if he did molest or assault those children, then he needs to be responsible for his actions, as we all have to be."

So while we are painting Sandusky as a monster - fairly - remember that even the most evil man is complex. Never more so than here. People who knew Sandusky loved him, described him as a great person and teacher, and a brilliant football mind. That all but the latter are now coming undone doesn't change the fact that he obviously had very good qualities, which I think Lavar's quote captures. My point not being to humanize someone guilty of the inhuman, but to help us to understand how Paterno would, in what was clearly in retrospect bad judgment, not rush to vigilantism against one of his oldest and most trusted colleagues. He was presented with this information and told the AD. He probably hoped it wasn't true. Jerry couldn't be guilty of that? No way, I know him.

A couple of years ago a friend of mine was accused of a monstrous sex crime. I didn't believe it. How could I? This was someone I knew, had driven across the country with, confessed my deepest thoughts to. I was not in a position to report his behavior to police but I can tell you that I wouldn't have, not because I would have wanted to protect him, but because I couldn't at that time bring myself to believe that someone I knew that well could be guilty of such a crime. Well guilty he was.

We live in a cynical age in which our most trusted leaders and public figures almost always break our hearts. They lie. They cheat. They steal. They fall short, again and again. You see that cynicism here and in other discussions: Paterno knows more than he's letting on goes the charge. Maybe, and if so I won't defend him. But isn't it possible that he didn't believe that this could be true about Jerry? That he did what was legally required of him (no debate there) but no more given the circumstances? And if so, does it really undo five decades of work in which he touched thousands of lives in a positive way?

I don't know. I know people are angry and want retribution. Maybe I am falling into that same trap ... I just can't believe that about Joe.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by mooby

As bad as this sounds, what if the guy actually enjoys getting d in the a? We already know he gave a 10 year old kid oral, so there's no telling if he might enjoy taking it up the butt too. That's why I said there's just no justice possible whatsoever, because nothing you could do to this dude would bring any relief whatsoever to these kids who have been scarred by him.

They don't bend you over in jail if you're a child molester, they kill you.

Child molester/rapists that don't ask immediately for administrative segregation is ASKING for a death sentence. Prisoners want nothing to do with rapists and child molesters.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

They don't bend you over in jail if you're a child molester, they kill you.

Child molester/rapists that don't ask immediately for administrative segregation is ASKING for a death sentence. Prisoners want nothing to do with rapists and child molesters.

Ah, I always assumed the rapists were the ones getting raped in jail, but death is a welcome alternative to that.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Well, he knew about the allegations, and all he did was mention it to the AD. He certainly didn't do all he could, that's for damn sure. There's plenty of blame to go around here, and a portion of it falls on Joe Pa's shoulders.

Joe Pa deserves a ton of blame.

Cant believe Joe Pa defense is gonna be "i reported it" to the AD like he did the right thing.

Sorry, but Joe Pa is a scumbag and everyone knows the AD worked for him and not he worked for the AD.

The obvious right thing to do is call the authorities, I hope this taints Joe Pa so called legacy, Ive lost all respect for the man.

I hope Penn St gets sued so bad the program folds, most over rated football program in the land anyways.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

I will not argue that Paterno isn't culpable in this, although I think there's a human element to this story that's being obscured. Let's start with looking at Lavar's comments about his former coach Sandusky in the Washington Post (reprinted in the ESPN.com story):

"I'm perplexed as to how someone who did so much good could end up being accused of something so bad. I have my own kids, and I know how strongly I feel about them and protecting them from hurt, harm and danger. Selfishly I hope that Jerry is innocent, but if he isn't, as a parent my thought is may God show mercy on him ... On one side I want Jerry to be innocent because he was a great man to me, but on the other side, as a responsible parent if he did molest or assault those children, then he needs to be responsible for his actions, as we all have to be."

So while we are painting Sandusky as a monster - fairly - remember that even the most evil man is complex. Never more so than here. People who knew Sandusky loved him, described him as a great person and teacher, and a brilliant football mind. That all but the latter are now coming undone doesn't change the fact that he obviously had very good qualities, which I think Lavar's quote captures. My point not being to humanize someone guilty of the inhuman, but to help us to understand how Paterno would, in what was clearly in retrospect bad judgment, not rush to vigilantism against one of his oldest and most trusted colleagues. He was presented with this information and told the AD. He probably hoped it wasn't true. Jerry couldn't be guilty of that? No way, I know him.

A couple of years ago a friend of mine was accused of a monstrous sex crime. I didn't believe it. How could I? This was someone I knew, had driven across the country with, confessed my deepest thoughts to. I was not in a position to report his behavior to police but I can tell you that I wouldn't have, not because I would have wanted to protect him, but because I couldn't at that time bring myself to believe that someone I knew that well could be guilty of such a crime. Well guilty he was.

We live in a cynical age in which our most trusted leaders and public figures almost always break our hearts. They lie. They cheat. They steal. They fall short, again and again. You see that cynicism here and in other discussions: Paterno knows more than he's letting on goes the charge. Maybe, and if so I won't defend him. But isn't it possible that he didn't believe that this could be true about Jerry? That he did what was legally required of him (no debate there) but no more given the circumstances? And if so, does it really undo five decades of work in which he touched thousands of lives in a positive way?

I don't know. I know people are angry and want retribution. Maybe I am falling into that same trap ... I just can't believe that about Joe.

Sorry dude this guy is a piece of trash, complete trash. The devil comes to us in many forms very rarely does he come as a monster, he used the good attributes you described about him to hide his true monstrous acts. Joe Pa was shown the devil and he choose to not bring him to justice and for that Joe Pa is guilt. Joe Pa has to be the most powerful man on that campus and he choose not to use that power to bring this devil out. For that I say FAWK YOU Joe Pa and for every kid that got molested after Joe Pa knew of this and said nothing I give Joe PA a DOUBLE FAWK YOU! Rot in hell you old piece of shit and everyone else wrapped up in this.

[JoeRedskin]

There was a Sandusky in Baltimore that reports sports (don't know if he still does), anyone know if he is any relation? Just curious.