Arrington Interview

JWsleep · 03-21-2004, 04:15 PM

Could you imagine if one of us signed a contract, and then weeks later realized we hadn't read it correctly, and then went to the other party and said, "hey, I didn't realize what I signed. Could I have a do-over?" We'd be laughed at.

And then Lavar gripes that Snyder "isn't a man" because he doesn't give LA whatever he wants. Sounds to me like LA is the one who needs to act more like a man. Face up to your error, eat some humble pie, and maybe the most generous organization in the league will try to work with you. Going to an arbitrator and then whining in public about Snyder, Manhood, and the Devil is ridiculous.

And if your agent, who's job it is to make sure your contract is in order, let this happen, he isn't doing his job. Standing by an incompetent is not loyalty, it's stupidity.

OK, I'm done.

Gmanc711 · 03-21-2004, 04:16 PM

This has not been the best offseason for Agents. Everyone should just have Drew Rosenhaus, hes the only one who seems to ever have his sh*t together. If he can get a guy with one leg ( McGahee ) drafed at #23, hes pretty damn good.

Ghost · 03-21-2004, 04:39 PM

I really like LaVar as a player ... with Darrell Green gone, LaVar is kind of the public face of the Redskins ... but no one player is bigger than the team. If he's unhappy and it becomes a problem, we could always trade him, like we did Champ, and the Redskins would still be the Redskins. We all know the team would never agree to the figure he's claiming should have been in his contract. As a businessman, LaVar should have known what was in the contract he was signing. The whole thing smells fishy. Could it be that his agents misled him in some way?

joecrisp · 03-21-2004, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JWsleep

Could you imagine if one of us signed a contract, and then weeks later realized we hadn't read it correctly, and then went to the other party and said, "hey, I didn't realize what I signed. Could I have a do-over?" We'd be laughed at.

And then Lavar gripes that Snyder "isn't a man" because he doesn't give LA whatever he wants. Sounds to me like LA is the one who needs to act more like a man. Face up to your error, eat some humble pie, and maybe the most generous organization in the league will try to work with you. Going to an arbitrator and then whining in public about Snyder, Manhood, and the Devil is ridiculous.

And if your agent, who's job it is to make sure your contract is in order, let this happen, he isn't doing his job. Standing by an incompetent is not loyalty, it's stupidity.

OK, I'm done.

All excellent points, Sleepy. I also agree with the points others have made about the absurdity of the whole thing. The more I think about it, the more it looks like Arrington and Poston screwed the pooch on this one. For one, what the hell was Arrington doing signing the finalized contract without his agent's supervision or consultation? That's just stupidity on Arrington's part, and unprofessionalism on Poston's part. These guys knew they were working with a tight deadline, and didn't take the proper precautions to ensure that the contract they were signing was the deal they agreed to (or thought they agreed to) in principle.

SmootSmack · 03-21-2004, 08:16 PM

I was reading this old washington times article about Arrington agreeing to have the NFLPA sell Arrington merchandise, http://washingtontimes.com/sports/20...1100-7487r.htm, and found one part particularly interesting:

"Executives for Players Inc., the union's licensing arm, yesterday confirmed the Arrington agreement but declined to comment further. Arrington and his agents, Carl and Kevin Poston, were unavailable for comment, making the precise motivation for his turnabout unclear."

What do you all suppose the motivation was? To get the union firmly on his side for a possible showdown or to put some more money in his pocket because he knew there was no extra $6.5 million agreed to? Or something else?

BleedBurgundy · 03-21-2004, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

I was reading this old washington times article about Arrington agreeing to have the NFLPA sell Arrington merchandise, http://washingtontimes.com/sports/20...1100-7487r.htm, and found one part particularly interesting:

"Executives for Players Inc., the union's licensing arm, yesterday confirmed the Arrington agreement but declined to comment further. Arrington and his agents, Carl and Kevin Poston, were unavailable for comment, making the precise motivation for his turnabout unclear."

What do you all suppose the motivation was? To get the union firmly on his side for a possible showdown or to put some more money in his pocket because he knew there was no extra $6.5 million agreed to? Or something else?

I never understood why he wouldn't want the NFLPA to market his name. Was he planning on manufacturing and distributing his own line of uniforms? Plus, it was a pain in the ass typing his name in Madden 2004.

Gmanc711 · 03-21-2004, 08:33 PM

Guys, I think I know why he didnt want the NFL to market his name. The second number in his jersey is 6. From there, The Second Minus the first number (6-5) equals 1, plus the first number 5, equals six. From there, the first PLUS the second number * pie = 6. You see what I'm saying 6,6,6. Maybe he htinks his jersey is the mark of the devil?

SmootSmack · 03-21-2004, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Guys, I think I know why he didnt want the NFL to market his name. The second number in his jersey is 6. From there, The Second Minus the first number (6-5) equals 1, plus the first number 5, equals six. From there, the first PLUS the second number * pie = 6. You see what I'm saying 6,6,6. Maybe he htinks his jersey is the mark of the devil?

Ha ha, that's great. Also, Washington Redskins has 18 letters in it. That's 6+6+6. And if you add up LaVar's jersey number (5+6) plus the defensive formation the Redskins employ (4+3), again you get 18 or 6+6+6. But wait, there's more. FedExField has 10 letters plus Landover has 8 letters. Again, that's 18, or 6+6+6. Poor LaVar! No matter where he turns he just can't avoid the mark of the devil.

Seriously though, I hope this grievance gets settled soon because it seems like nothing more than an unecessary nuisance

Daseal · 03-21-2004, 10:29 PM

I like LaVar but as most everyone has said, he's coming out of this looking like an idiot. Eat the loss and get on with it. I'm sure the huge chunk of cash you're getting will hold you over for the rest of your life.

SkinsRock · 03-22-2004, 10:45 AM

LaVar, you are the highest paid LB in the NFL....without the 6.5 mil.....get a new agent, shut up, and play.

Skins fan 44 · 03-22-2004, 12:37 PM

Well he dont seemed to outraged about it. I dont understand why they only had 30 minutes to sign the contract. It sounds all true and that he rembembers it all. So why didnt he look to make sure he did not see 666?

MTK · 03-24-2004, 09:19 AM

What do you guys make of this latest article regarding Arrington and his "missing" $6.5M?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Mar23.html

At least he claims he won't let this interfere with his play on the field, but still, the whole situation is a bit disturbing. How insane would it be if we let Champ go to keep LaVar, and now he could be wanting out?!

Let's hope we can get this situation resolved quickly and have it be water under the bridge by the time the season starts.

irish · 03-24-2004, 09:44 AM

What I found most interesting about the article is LA's lack of excitement for the coaching change. I suspect this is because LA realizes Gibbs will not put up with his $hit and wanting to do what he wants on defense and to top it off if it comes down to a pissing contest there is no way LA can beat Gibbs in the eyes of the fans or the media.

I think the redskins should look at this as an opportunity to gauge other teams interest in LA and see what can be had in a trade. I suspect LA could help the redskins more by being part of a blockbuster trade that staying on a team he will never respect again.

dieselhog · 03-24-2004, 09:49 AM

What would be considered a fair trade price for LaVar?

BleedBurgundy · 03-24-2004, 09:50 AM

I think talk of trading LA is a bit premature. Right now, he thinks that the Skins screwed him out of 6 1/2 million dollars. He's wrong, but that's what he thinks. If it were me, I'd be pissed too. But...He's eventually gonna cool down and realize that, like SkinsRock said, he's the highest paid LB in the league and that he signed the contract without making sure all of the details were to his liking. Not exactly unfair. Plus---He's still not even approaching the jackass proportions of Ty Law who says he doesn't ever want to be a Patriot again. LA still has emotional ties to the Skins and seems to care about the team, that's a good thing. As far as not being excited about Gibbs goes...It's his what, 5th coach? I'm excited too about Gibbs being back, but I'll admit that excitement is tempered until I see results.

03-21-2004, 04:15 PM	#16
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,719	Could you imagine if one of us signed a contract, and then weeks later realized we hadn't read it correctly, and then went to the other party and said, "hey, I didn't realize what I signed. Could I have a do-over?" We'd be laughed at. And then Lavar gripes that Snyder "isn't a man" because he doesn't give LA whatever he wants. Sounds to me like LA is the one who needs to act more like a man. Face up to your error, eat some humble pie, and maybe the most generous organization in the league will try to work with you. Going to an arbitrator and then whining in public about Snyder, Manhood, and the Devil is ridiculous. And if your agent, who's job it is to make sure your contract is in order, let this happen, he isn't doing his job. Standing by an incompetent is not loyalty, it's stupidity. OK, I'm done. __________________ Hail from Houston!

03-21-2004, 04:16 PM	#17
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	This has not been the best offseason for Agents. Everyone should just have Drew Rosenhaus, hes the only one who seems to ever have his sh*t together. If he can get a guy with one leg ( McGahee ) drafed at #23, hes pretty damn good. __________________ #21

03-21-2004, 08:16 PM	#20
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	I was reading this old washington times article about Arrington agreeing to have the NFLPA sell Arrington merchandise, http://washingtontimes.com/sports/20...1100-7487r.htm, and found one part particularly interesting: "Executives for Players Inc., the union's licensing arm, yesterday confirmed the Arrington agreement but declined to comment further. Arrington and his agents, Carl and Kevin Poston, were unavailable for comment, making the precise motivation for his turnabout unclear." What do you all suppose the motivation was? To get the union firmly on his side for a possible showdown or to put some more money in his pocket because he knew there was no extra $6.5 million agreed to? Or something else? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-21-2004, 08:33 PM	#22
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Guys, I think I know why he didnt want the NFL to market his name. The second number in his jersey is 6. From there, The Second Minus the first number (6-5) equals 1, plus the first number 5, equals six. From there, the first PLUS the second number * pie = 6. You see what I'm saying 6,6,6. Maybe he htinks his jersey is the mark of the devil? __________________ #21

03-22-2004, 12:37 PM	#26
Skins fan 44 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brazil, IN Age: 54 Posts: 883	Well he dont seemed to outraged about it. I dont understand why they only had 30 minutes to sign the contract. It sounds all true and that he rembembers it all. So why didnt he look to make sure he did not see 666? __________________ HTTR!

03-21-2004, 04:39 PM	#18
Ghost Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 298	I really like LaVar as a player ... with Darrell Green gone, LaVar is kind of the public face of the Redskins ... but no one player is bigger than the team. If he's unhappy and it becomes a problem, we could always trade him, like we did Champ, and the Redskins would still be the Redskins. We all know the team would never agree to the figure he's claiming should have been in his contract. As a businessman, LaVar should have known what was in the contract he was signing. The whole thing smells fishy. Could it be that his agents misled him in some way?

03-21-2004, 10:29 PM	#24
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	I like LaVar but as most everyone has said, he's coming out of this looking like an idiot. Eat the loss and get on with it. I'm sure the huge chunk of cash you're getting will hold you over for the rest of your life.

03-22-2004, 10:45 AM	#25
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	LaVar, you are the highest paid LB in the NFL....without the 6.5 mil.....get a new agent, shut up, and play.

03-24-2004, 09:19 AM	#27
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	What do you guys make of this latest article regarding Arrington and his "missing" $6.5M? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Mar23.html At least he claims he won't let this interfere with his play on the field, but still, the whole situation is a bit disturbing. How insane would it be if we let Champ go to keep LaVar, and now he could be wanting out?! Let's hope we can get this situation resolved quickly and have it be water under the bridge by the time the season starts.

03-24-2004, 09:44 AM	#28
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	What I found most interesting about the article is LA's lack of excitement for the coaching change. I suspect this is because LA realizes Gibbs will not put up with his $hit and wanting to do what he wants on defense and to top it off if it comes down to a pissing contest there is no way LA can beat Gibbs in the eyes of the fans or the media. I think the redskins should look at this as an opportunity to gauge other teams interest in LA and see what can be had in a trade. I suspect LA could help the redskins more by being part of a blockbuster trade that staying on a team he will never respect again.

03-24-2004, 09:49 AM	#29
dieselhog Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bolton, Lancashire Age: 53 Posts: 166	What would be considered a fair trade price for LaVar?

03-24-2004, 09:50 AM	#30
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	I think talk of trading LA is a bit premature. Right now, he thinks that the Skins screwed him out of 6 1/2 million dollars. He's wrong, but that's what he thinks. If it were me, I'd be pissed too. But...He's eventually gonna cool down and realize that, like SkinsRock said, he's the highest paid LB in the league and that he signed the contract without making sure all of the details were to his liking. Not exactly unfair. Plus---He's still not even approaching the jackass proportions of Ty Law who says he doesn't ever want to be a Patriot again. LA still has emotional ties to the Skins and seems to care about the team, that's a good thing. As far as not being excited about Gibbs goes...It's his what, 5th coach? I'm excited too about Gibbs being back, but I'll admit that excitement is tempered until I see results.

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