RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Surgery should be wrapping up by now, I believe

And when I say "I think"...there's more to it

You in the operating room, posting from your cell?

[SFREDSKIN]

This could have been prevented if someone had the balls to say NO to RGIII.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

This could have been prevented if someone had the balls to say NO to RGIII.

I agree, but i dont think its a matter of "balls." Shanahan sat RGIII when RGIII wanted to play/beleived he could play.

THe problem i have is that Shanahan allowed RGIII to come back and play - as long as he wore the brace. I can see allowing that for an offensive lineman, who is going to be fairly immobile during a game - but given that RGIIIs position requires him to scramble and make alot of quick cuts, the brace becomes less effective. The brace slipped out of place, and thats what resulted in RGIIIs injury. Shanahan should have forseen the possibility/liklihood of that happening and not allowed RGIII to come back until he was truly 100%.

After this surgery, i dont want to see RGIII on the field again until he is 100%. And by 100%, i dont mean the 100% RGIII said he was in recent weeks - that was BS. Until Shanahan can see RGIII move around just like he did during the Saints game - without any sort of brace - he doesnt need to step on the field. I dont care if he misses the entire season - he needs to FULLY heal before he tries to play football.

[ashvirtually]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I agree, but i dont think its a matter of "balls." Shanahan sat RGIII when RGIII wanted to play/beleived he could play.

THe problem i have is that Shanahan allowed RGIII to come back and play - as long as he wore the brace. I can see allowing that for an offensive lineman, who is going to be fairly immobile during a game - but given that RGIIIs position requires him to scramble and make alot of quick cuts, the brace becomes less effective. The brace slipped out of place, and thats what resulted in RGIIIs injury. Shanahan should have forseen the possibility/liklihood of that happening and not allowed RGIII to come back until he was truly 100%.

After this surgery, i dont want to see RGIII on the field again until he is 100%. And by 100%, i dont mean the 100% RGIII said he was in recent weeks - that was BS. Until Shanahan can see RGIII move around just like he did during the Saints game - without any sort of brace - he doesnt need to step on the field. I dont care if he misses the entire season - he needs to FULLY heal before he tries to play football.

This. Especially the bold.

I just want to add one small thing:

I have said this before and I will continue to reiterate it ... what happened on FedEx against the Ravens when Robert first injured his knee was a remarkable thing. He affected the play on the field that he was not playing on, as well giving energy to the crowd that was behind the home team.

That is very special. I said then he would lead us to extraordinary heights.

Cap'n Kirk has 48 whopping pass attempts, and I'm not going to turn him into Roger Staubach. Yes, he faced down 2-20 and gave us the game-tying TD and two-point conversion that led to the game-winning FG when the Ravens were forced to punt in OT.

But it was Robert who pushed the team down the field and gave us two crucial passes to put us in the position to tie and win; it was Robert whom the 'Skins were inspired by and rallied behind to pull out that win. We would have lost last year, or the year before that, or, hell, any year since Sean Taylor was murdered and taken away from us.

Robert brought them all together and that allowed Cap'n Kirk to finish off the Ravens and beam up the Browns the next week.

I have faith in Cousins, but I don't think that either Robert's fearlessness and stubbornness, nor Shanahan's stubbornness and belief in him, and the situation they both find themselves and have put this organization into because of the mistakes that courage and bravery and belief caused should erase any of that. I believe the team will rally behing Capn' Kirk and he will hold the fort down and may even achieve great success.

But Robert is the binding component in all of it. He's the one who's fire and passion changed our organization's culture. You think those guys are gonna go out there and think that they are done if the score is down by a TD in the last four minutes of a game ever again? You think they are gonna give up on games going forward that they would have given up on before this past season?

'Cause I don't.

And Robert has a lot - a LOT - to do with that.

He just needs to get healthy now, and if that means he sits out a whole season, so be it. If he's brought onto himself a possible QB controversy if Cap'n Kirk does well next season, he will have to realize that is also another consequence of his fearlessness and stubbornness. And that's football. But I think just having him leading from the sidelines will keep us heading up.

Anyway, you guys take care. Think I'm going to stay away from here for awhile, probably until F/A and the draft. Too much reading of people's personal gripes and far-out tinfoilhattery and watching them force that to fit what's happened.

It is what it is. It's football. But seeing that happening is too disappointing for words.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I agree, but i dont think its a matter of "balls." Shanahan sat RGIII when RGIII wanted to play/beleived he could play.

THe problem i have is that Shanahan allowed RGIII to come back and play - as long as he wore the brace. I can see allowing that for an offensive lineman, who is going to be fairly immobile during a game - but given that RGIIIs position requires him to scramble and make alot of quick cuts, the brace becomes less effective. The brace slipped out of place, and thats what resulted in RGIIIs injury. Shanahan should have forseen the possibility/liklihood of that happening and not allowed RGIII to come back until he was truly 100%.

After this surgery, i dont want to see RGIII on the field again until he is 100%. And by 100%, i dont mean the 100% RGIII said he was in recent weeks - that was BS. Until Shanahan can see RGIII move around just like he did during the Saints game - without any sort of brace - he doesnt need to step on the field. I dont care if he misses the entire season - he needs to FULLY heal before he tries to play football.

Eh?

His knee was already compromised, didn't take much to injure it further. A brace does little to prevent injury... it's just there to provide support to a weak joint.

[scowan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Surgery should be wrapping up by now, I believe

And when I say "I think"...there's more to it

Smoot, I was just thinking that Dr. Andrews is becoming famous enough to have a press conference when he gets finished with Robert! LOL

[skinsfan69]

Not surprising that he needed to go under the knife. I don't expect him to be ready for 2013. This off season should have been one of RG3 doing things to become a complete QB. Now he'll be doing rehab. Kinda sucks but life goes on.

[Paintrain]

Damn, I was hoping for ONE drama free offseason with this team. Above all I hope for a full recovery and for long term health.. Gonna try not to focus so much on him being back for the opener, rather having him back for most of the season and most importantly the postseason.

On the bright side, this makes the Cousins draft pick look all the more brilliant.

[SmootSmack]

I mean when the camera's not rolling people who know will tell you 8 months is optimistic. 10 months is more realistic

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I mean when the camera's not rolling

On the porn shoot

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

people who know

the women at the salon

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

will tell you 8 months is optimistic. 10 months is more realistic

no one really knows....

I can speak Smoot

[MTK]

My guess is he misses the first 4 games.

Maybe the optimistic outlook of 6-8 months comes from the fact he's so young and will undoubtedly work his tail off in rehab. He's been through this before so he knows the drill. Or maybe it's just some spin to make the fans feel a little better... or to not hurt ticket sales in the offseason... or maybe it's cause they know he's effing Superman!

Either way I have faith in Kirk being able to hold down the fort. Who's got a problem with that draft pick now??

[CASKINS]

Let this be a lesson to Mike Shanahan about who is the authority and makes the final decisions He's lucky RGIII isn't lost for the entire season luckily we drafted one of the youngest players in the NFL if he were any older I'd doubt his ability to recover

[skinsguy]

I have no problem with Griffin missing the first four games if it means he comes back in game five completely healthy and ready to go. The best case scenario with that would be maybe only two of those games being NFC games, and one being an East game. That way, if Cousins went 1-3 or ,Lord forbid 0-4, it still wouldn't be unrealistic for Griffin to come back in and get this team on track for another winning, playoff season. However, I'd think Cousins could at least get this team to 2-2, which would be great odds, and I would be perfectly fine with that.

The biggest concern is that Griffin comes back 100% healthy! The way I see it now, he's had the surgery (or having), let's just focus on his rehab now and see how he does.

I DO think one topic that should be discussed, is what the 'skins will do about their playing field. Hopefully that's being covered in another thread.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I have no problem with Griffin missing the first four games if it means he comes back in game five completely healthy and ready to go. The best case scenario with that would be maybe only two of those games being NFC games, and one being an East game. That way, if Cousins went 1-3 or ,Lord forbid 0-4, it still wouldn't be unrealistic for Griffin to come back in and get this team on track for another winning, playoff season. However, I'd think Cousins could at least get this team to 2-2, which would be great odds, and I would be perfectly fine with that.

The biggest concern is that Griffin comes back 100% healthy! The way I see it now, he's had the surgery (or having), let's just focus on his rehab now and see how he does.

I DO think one topic that should be discussed, is what the 'skins will do about their playing field. Hopefully that's being covered in another thread.

EXACTLY ! If I were running the team , RG111 wouldn't start for weeks after he was 100% . I would maybe let him get some plays during then , but not start .

[skinsfaninok]

I think he'll rush back and be starting week 1. That's just how he is, hopefully he will be OK for the rest of his career. I really hope he's not the next grant hill of the NFL