The Special Teams Problem

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Redskins ST

Team PR Avg 6.1 Rank 30 TD 0
Opp PR Avg 20.1 Rank 32 TD 2 LAST
Team KR Avg 20.0 Rank 32 TD 0 LAST
Opp KR Avg 20.9 Rank 8 TD 0

Team Punt Gross Avg 41.8 Rank 32 Blocked 1 LAST
Team Punt Net Avg 34.0 Rank 32 LAST

Note: Punt OOB 12. Most in League. Affects Gross Avg.

Team FG Att 15 Rank 22
Team FG Made 10 Rank 31
Team FG Pct 66.7 31 Blocked 1
Team FG Over 50 Yds 0-2
Team PAT 26-26 100%
Team Blocked Kicks 0

Thanks for those numbers. Those are some sad ST stats.

[CRedskinsRule]

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I love that man. I thought he played really good in pre-season but was he a returner in college? The coaches must not have confidence in him if he's just festering on the practice squad.

Can I return kicks?

[Zerohero]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Alexander really held this unit together. I didn't think we'd miss him as much as we do. I don't think the coverage would be nearly as bad if he was still here.

I knew his leaving would hurt us, just not this bad. Was really sad to see him go especially when it seemed he wanted to stay but felt the team slighted him in negotiations.

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by Zerohero

I knew his leaving would hurt us, just not this bad. Was really sad to see him go especially when it seemed he wanted to stay but felt the team slighted him in negotiations.

I don't know whether we slighted him, it seems we just ran out of cap space to sign him for what he needed to stay. Blame Mara if you need to blame anyone.

Count me as another long term fan who is now just apathetic... We've got a serious problem when the majority of core fans on the Warpath project a loss to a mediocre Eagles team. Hope somebody is paying attention.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Zerohero

I knew his leaving would hurt us, just not this bad. Was really sad to see him go especially when it seemed he wanted to stay but felt the team slighted him in negotiations.

We had no money and Arizona was promising him more playing time on D.

[DynamiteRave]

Nick Williams looks good for sure, but putting dudes back there seems like poison for us. Dudes who show potential get back there in a live season situation and just blow.

I am starting to wonder if that has less to do with the player running back the kicks and more to do with the other special teams players who seem to do nothing right, ever. (I'm saying, they probably can't block)

[Gary84Clark]

nick williams has special teams ace written all over him.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Alexander really held this unit together. I didn't think we'd miss him as much as we do. I don't think the coverage would be nearly as bad if he was still here.

Not only is he missed on ST but also as Fletcher's backup. Funny thing is when I complained that the Redskins didn't resign him I was told he's just another Specials Team player. How did this turn out? They could have found a way to keep him.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

nick williams has special teams ace written all over him.

I'm hoping the Redskins don't get stupid and release him during the off-season. He will definitely go somewhere else and shine. I could also see him developing into a Welker type of receiver. Probably nowhere near as good, but ability wise; small and fast.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Nick Williams looks good for sure, but putting dudes back there seems like poison for us.

So no more dudes on punt returns? Time for chicks or just send 11 guys for the block every time?

Hey...that's not a bad idea but you know we'd end up roughing the punter every time. Penalties are killing us.

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I'm hoping the Redskins don't get stupid and release him during the off-season. He will definitely go somewhere else and shine. I could also see him developing into a Welker type of receiver. Probably nowhere near as good, but ability wise; small and fast.

NE will replace the always-injured Amendola with him and he'll end up being Brady's next Wes Welker.

[SkinsGuru]

the only thing that worries me about nick williams as a returner is his speed . . . he as clocked at 4.62 coming out of college and for someone as small as him that is very slow . . . niles paul is a 4.4 guy and he seems to slow out there . . . granted williams is much quicker than paul, but will also go down far easier as he is far smaller . . .

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

the only thing that worries me about nick williams as a returner is his speed . . . he as clocked at 4.62 coming out of college and for someone as small as him that is very slow . . . niles paul is a 4.4 guy and he seems to slow out there . . . granted williams is much quicker than paul, but will also go down far easier as he is far smaller . . .

From his highlights, he seems to have great vision and what is known as "game speed". If he catches the ball, makes the first man miss, runs for 20 yards and then is caught and tackled, I'll be more than satisfied. If he does more than that, I'll be thrilled!

But he can't do anything unless he is given the chance. You'd think that with our ST's being as bad as they are, that the coaches might want to try someone different as a punt returner. I just hope they give Nick a try against the Eagles.

[Green Monk Machine]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

the only thing that worries me about nick williams as a returner is his speed . . . he as clocked at 4.62 coming out of college and for someone as small as him that is very slow . . . niles paul is a 4.4 guy and he seems to slow out there . . . granted williams is much quicker than paul, but will also go down far easier as he is far smaller . . .

Yeah Paul runs a 4.8 in games.

[MTK]

Speed is overrated especially on returns. It's more about vision and quickness.