Dan Snyder: WP: Formula for Success Article

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Teams aren't getting rich from jerseys or merch. Gets really tiring to hear that.

No but I think he's just trying to voice his frustration out and we all are frustrated, as is Dan and everyone in the organization I'm sure.

[over the mountain]

i thought we all came to a spontaneous and unspoken agreement not to comment on this article/thread bc we all know and are over talking about how DS sucks and loves this team like Lennie loved soft furry things ..... it almost happened.

[Gary84Clark]

I say we sue Shannahan for breech of trust. He runined my NFL package I bought.

[Paintrain]

For as bad as the Snyder era has been, there are worse owners out there.. Remember Mike Brown was far worse than Snyder has ever been just a short time ago but Marvin Lewis came in and fixed the on field product and you don't hear about Brown anymore.

Winning cures all woes. Let us make the playoffs 3 out of 5 years, advance to a conference championship game or God forbid win a SB, he will all of the sudden be considered one of the better owners in the league.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

i thought we all came to a spontaneous and unspoken agreement not to comment on this article/thread bc we all know and are over talking about how DS sucks and loves this team like Lennie loved soft furry things ..... it almost happened.

We were so close

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Teams aren't getting rich from jerseys or merch. Gets really tiring to hear that.

Of course not. My point was there is a track record of over saturated marketing and making headlines. That's his right as a business man and owner of the team. I just wish it translated into more wins.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Of course not. My point was there is a track record of over saturated marketing and making headlines. That's his right as a business man and owner of the team. I just wish it translated into more wins.

I do to. I think too many people correlate it with loses in a causal way though and I fail to see how any perceived over-marketing (or whatever) has anything to do with the on-field product.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Teams aren't getting rich from jerseys or merch. Gets really tiring to hear that.

Asking for clarification: I guess you mean individual teams don't make much that way on their own? According to this, merch is a big part of what I assume is shared revenue.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Asking for clarification: I guess you mean individual teams don't make much that way on their own? According to this, merch is a big part of what I assume is shared revenue.

That link only mentions gross sales, not profit from merch.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Of course not. My point was there is a track record of over saturated marketing and making headlines. That's his right as a business man and owner of the team. I just wish it translated into more wins.

Do you really think it's him or the market he's in? Around 2000, you could say that, but here we are again, rehashing past sins that are more than a decade old. Even the MEDIA that vilified him during those same years has said he truly has taken a back seat approach. I can see him saying, "Wow, I'd like player x, but hey, your decision." at the VERY worst.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Asking for clarification: I guess you mean individual teams don't make much that way on their own? According to this, merch is a big part of what I assume is shared revenue.

Sure it's a significant revenue stream, but big picture teams make much more profit by consistently putting winning teams on the field.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I do to. I think too many people correlate it with loses in a causal way though and I fail to see how any perceived over-marketing (or whatever) has anything to do with the on-field product.

i think being the champs of the offseason = refreshed hope = increased season ticket sales = one of the most profitable NFL franchises

i do think DS was smart in constantly rebranding the redskins which i do believe was an intentional strategy and approach. whether it be signing a big FA or new coach.

but it really is water under the bridge for me. i think ive finally let go of the past 15 years of disfunction and pointing blame.

[Coff]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

i thought we all came to a spontaneous and unspoken agreement not to comment on this article/thread bc we all know and are over talking about how DS sucks and loves this team like Lennie loved soft furry things ..... it almost happened.

That's the perfect metaphor.
As to your point, it was surprising to see this thread pop up so long after the article was published. Oh well.

[HailGreen28]

One can't deny Snyder's incredible success in business, before and with the Skins. But as far as the team goes, a title: "Dan Snyder: Formula for Success" reminds me of the jokes about books like these:

Amelia Earhart's Guide to the Pacific Ocean

America's Most Popular Lawyers

Career Opportunities for History Majors

Detroit - A Travel Guide

Different Ways to Spell "Bob"

Dr. Kevorkian's Collection of Motivational Speeches

Easy UNIX

Everything Men Know About Women

French Hospitality

How to Sustain a Solo Musical Career by Art Garfunkel

Mike Tyson's Guide to Dating Etiquette

The Amish Phone Book

Things I Wouldn't Do for Money by Dennis Rodman

What I Can't Afford by Bill Gates

and

How to Win the Superbowl by Dan Marino

[SolidSnake84]

So if teams don't get rich from jerseys or merchandise, then how do our redskins stay so profitable? I understand winning puts asses in the seats, which lead to the real money. But the redskins aren't consistent winners, have never been remotely close to a superbowl under Snyder, but we are still one of the top "selling" teams in the NFL.

Honest question here - not trying to be a wise ass. I assumed always that part of what made the Redskins such a "rich" team was that they had all of their seats sold out year after year, was top selling in merchandise, jerseys, etc...

If winning is the major revenue stream, then how are the skins not in trouble financially unless they make just enough from merchandise to keep afloat....