The Wilson Blueprint

[NC_Skins]

Robert isn't durable enough to have him run, and his decision making when he does has been sketchy at best. Wilson has been fortunate, but it's only a matter of time before he gets hurts as well. The QB I think Wilson most resembles is McNabb. Great at keeping the play alive with his legs, but out of the league at 33 years old.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Robert isn't durable enough to have him run, and his decision making when he does has been sketchy at best. Wilson has been fortunate, but it's only a matter of time before he gets hurts as well. The QB I think Wilson most resembles is McNabb. Great at keeping the play alive with his legs, but out of the league at 33 years old.

I think decision making, clutch and good teamate already has Wilson pass McNabb. Wilson should become a better passer.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think decision making, clutch and good teamate already has Wilson pass McNabb. Wilson should become a better passer.

No offense, but McNabb has never had the type of defense that Seattle is sporting. That accounts for a LOT. It's huge advantage. Wilson didn't need to take 1 snap in order to win the Super Bowl. Think about that. Didn't even need one offensive snap to win that game. Wilson is going to be good until the legs begin to go. (via age or injuries)

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Funny before the knee injury it was the RG3 blueprint.

This. In fact, Seattle took a bunch of stuff from the Redskins that they use with Wilson. It's still not going to be a good long term plan.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

No offense, but McNabb has never had the type of defense that Seattle is sporting. That accounts for a LOT. It's huge advantage. Wilson didn't need to take 1 snap in order to win the Super Bowl. Think about that. Didn't even need one offensive snap to win that game. Wilson is going to be good until the legs begin to go. (via age or injuries)





This. In fact, Seattle took a bunch of stuff from the Redskins that they use with Wilson. It's still not going to be a good long term plan.

They already got one ring, and are clearly a dominant team.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

They already got one ring, and are clearly a dominant team.

Not sure anybody is arguing against that. There biggest issues they face are with the salary cap in the next couple of years. They have to pay Russell and Okung big time money so it'll be interesting to see. If they draft well, they'll continue the dominance, if not, they'll taper off.

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[MTK]

Funny before the knee injury it was the RG3 blueprint.

[Schneed10]

Problem is Griffin is a pretty careless guy when he gets near contact. Some call it fearless, I call it careless. Wilson understands where the defense is at all times and slides at the end of all of his runs. Rarely takes a big shot. RG3 just doesn't.

So he either needs to learn that knack, or he needs to stay in the pocket. I'd prefer he learned the knack.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Problem is Griffin is a pretty careless guy when he gets near contact. Some call it fearless, I call it careless. Wilson understands where the defense is at all times and slides at the end of all of his runs. Rarely takes a big shot. RG3 just doesn't.

So he either needs to learn that knack, or he needs to stay in the pocket. I'd prefer he learned the knack.

Wilson took a couple of shots last night, but you're right. Wilson does a much better job at taking care of himself.

I'm just wondering if this has a lot to do with the expectation of each QB. The Seahawks didn't pick up Wilson to be the franchise QB, he just fell into the job. Everyone knows that for the most part, Seattle's strength lies on their defense and running game. Whereas RG3 is expected to be the franchise QB and in 2012 he was THE playmaker on the team (with Morris' help).

[Chico23231]

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[skinsguy]

I saw Wilson take several big shots last night - but nobody really notices that when the Seahawks are winning. Just like when the 'skins were winning - we didn't care if RGIII took the big hit...as long as he got up and the 'skins kept winning.

[htownskinfan]

I'm sick of people bringing up seattle's defense when it comes to Wilson.He was just slightly behind RG3 as a rookie and now he's surpassed him by so far its not funny.
Seattles defense had nothing to do with Wilsons 122 yards rushing,and that last drive where we had Wilson dead to right and he just put the knife in our back,what does Seattle's defense have to do with that? Wilson is a stud,period.
If you want to bring up wins then yes Seattle wins more because of their defense,but that has nothing to do with how good Wilson is.

[Coff]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I'm sick of people bringing up seattle's defense when it comes to Wilson.He was just slightly behind RG3 as a rookie and now he's surpassed him by so far its not funny.
Seattles defense had nothing to do with Wilsons 122 yards rushing,and that last drive where we had Wilson dead to right and he just put the knife in our back,what does Seattle's defense have to do with that? Wilson is a stud,period.
If you want to bring up wins then yes Seattle wins more because of their defense,but that has nothing to do with how good Wilson is.

No one is saying that Wilson isn't good, or even that he hasn't progressed more than RGIII. The problem is that a) people hold RGIII responsible for that, and b) don't believe that he has the potential to become a star (again). Wilson has enjoyed ideal development conditions, while Griffin has faced anything but: a torn knee, a head coaching fiasco, a team that is always playing from behind, etc.

Would any reasonable person not expect Wilson's development to outpace RGIII's at this point, considering all of the external factors? No, of course not. So there are two ways we can look at Griffin: a guy who has the potential to be a franchise QB, or we can just assume that he won't be and in his place insert whomever is roaming the sidelines as the back-up, with the reasonable expectation that that person will be the next Peyton Manning (because that plan has worked so well for the past two decades).

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I'm sick of people bringing up seattle's defense when it comes to Wilson.He was just slightly behind RG3 as a rookie and now he's surpassed him by so far its not funny.
Seattles defense had nothing to do with Wilsons 122 yards rushing,and that last drive where we had Wilson dead to right and he just put the knife in our back,what does Seattle's defense have to do with that? Wilson is a stud,period.
If you want to bring up wins then yes Seattle wins more because of their defense,but that has nothing to do with how good Wilson is.

A lot of people, including those in the media, talk like Seattle wins just because of Wilson.

You put Wilson here in Washington, he probably has the same challenges and doesn't develop as well as he has in Seattle. You put RG3 in Seattle, he probably has more success than he's had here in Washington (though I'm not quite sure he'd win a SB).

Wilson is a very good QB, but I'm not quite ready to anoint him as the next Manning, Brady, Brees type of guy.

[saden1]

There is a reason why when people talk about Elite QBs they talk about a handful of guys. You either have IT or you don't. If RG3 hasn't figured it out by now that mofo isn't going to now.

Both Wilson and Luck are entering that handful count and I am afraid the boat has sailed on RG3.

[Coff]

Originally Posted by saden1

There is a reason why when people talk about Elite QBs they talk about a handful of guys. You either have IT or you don't. If RG3 hasn't figured it out by now that mofo isn't going to now.

Both Wilson and Luck are entering that handful count and I am afraid the boat has sailed on RG3.

There are plenty of elite QBs who didn't look elite after their first two years. Brees and Rogers come to mind, both of whom have won a Super Bowl in the past five years.

That being said, not being an "elite" QB is no reason to get rid of a guy. Stability and consistency are equally important. Eli Manning and Joe Flacco are not elite QBs by any means, yet they have won three of the past seven Super Bowls.