A.J. Smith to be Redskins GM?

Chico23231 · 12-26-2014, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

2012

Smith has been pretty influential as far as the draft the last two years. He's already on our payroll, I got no issue with giving him more official control. Is send Scott Campbell packing

You saying we should send Campbell packing?

I think AJ would be better than we got now, preference would still be bring in a new GM from outside the organization

Paintrain · 12-26-2014, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

2012

Smith has been pretty influential as far as the draft the last two years. He's already on our payroll, I got no issue with giving him more official control. Is send Scott Campbell packing

Is that a good thing? Our 2014 draft class, outside of Breeland, was a bust this year (though I think Grant will be a good WR going forward & Murphy can contribute but isn't special) and 2013 is not looking stellar either. Amerson & Reed didn't step forward and Thomas & Thompson are just seeing the field. 6 of the 15 players picked are no longer on the roster or practice squad.

If he gets full and total control over football ops, then I may be intrigued but if not, it's same old same old. I agree on Campbell as well as the scouting staff. Hopefully if he's hired, he can influence Snyder to give the scouting department some legitimacy in terms of investment and respect.

DynamiteRave · 12-26-2014, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

Is that a good thing? Our 2014 draft class, outside of Breeland, was a bust this year (though I think Grant will be a good WR going forward & Murphy can contribute but isn't special) and 2013 is not looking stellar either. Amerson & Reed didn't step forward and Thomas & Thompson are just seeing the field. 6 of the 15 players picked are no longer on the roster or practice squad.

If he gets full and total control over football ops, then I may be intrigued but if not, it's same old same old. I agree on Campbell as well as the scouting staff. Hopefully if he's hired, he can influence Snyder to give the scouting department some legitimacy in terms of investment and respect.

To Reed's credit (or discredit) he's spent a lot of time injured.

SmootSmack · 12-26-2014, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

You saying we should send Campbell packing?

I think AJ would be better than we got now, preference would still be bring in a new GM from outside the organization

Yes. I also think it's probably too early to judge his impact quite yet

skinsfan69 · 12-26-2014, 01:03 PM

[QUOTE=Paintrain;1101468]Is that a good thing? Our 2014 draft class, outside of Breeland, was a bust this year (though I think Grant will be a good WR going forward & Murphy can contribute but isn't special) and 2013 is not looking stellar either. Amerson & Reed didn't step forward and Thomas & Thompson are just seeing the field. 6 of the 15 players picked are no longer on the roster or practice squad.

If he gets full and total control over football ops, then I may be intrigued but if not, it's same old same old. I agree on Campbell as well as the scouting staff. Hopefully if he's hired, he can influence Snyder to give the scouting department some legitimacy in terms of investment and respect.[/

Some of you wanted Breeland cut cause he was smoking some weed in camp. Lol. He's not only been one of the best players on defense, but is obviously a future star in the making. What I like most about him is he's constantly in that film room grinding away trying to get better. The front office doesn't get many right but they nailed it with Breeland.

skinsfan69 · 12-26-2014, 01:22 PM

Smith let some good players walk out of San Diego. I'd prefer that they go get a young up and coming guy who's been in the trenches for several years. Get Newsome's right hand man. Baltimore has about a solid organization as there is. We need someone that comes from a winning organization.

SmootSmack · 12-26-2014, 01:30 PM

How would we all grade Shack Harris, George Kokinis, and Phil Savage as General Managers?

over the mountain · 12-26-2014, 01:34 PM

If newsome leaves the ravens and joins the skins I will have a ticket connection. My lady is friends with his daughter .... The other newsome in scout dept, not Ozzie.

Smoot - is it true aj smith doesn't like our 3 qbs?

Chico23231 · 12-26-2014, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

How would we all grade Shack Harris, George Kokinis, and Phil Savage as General Managers?

Only one that rings a bell is Savage, he seems ok. After looking up the other 2, Harris is buddy buddy with Doug Williams so that is kinda wierd and Kokinis was a GM for like half a year with the Browns.

SS, if these guys are being talked about as possible GM, any insight to positives and negatives with these as executives in the front office? Any significant streaks of these guys grabbing positive streaks of talent?

I honestly dont think the Ravens have done great in the talent department as of late...I think Harris in Detroit has the most to brag about in the way of team building, but still could be better imo.

SmootSmack · 12-26-2014, 02:47 PM

Chico. None are being talked about. My point was just that all were Newsome disciples yet none turned their franchises around when they became GMs. All solid football people, but I don't know why we just assume DeCosta is the answer just because he's with the Ravens

I don't know how AJ Smith feels about the QBs anymore than what's been said publicly

Chico23231 · 12-26-2014, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Chico. None are being talked about. My point was just that all were Newsome disciples yet none turned their franchises around when they became GMs. All solid football people, but I don't know why we just assume DeCosta is the answer just because he's with the Ravens

I don't know how AJ Smith feels about the QBs anymore than what's been said publicly

lol...yeah i think my brain took a vacation with that post and the point you were getting at...i did think it was strange how all those folks were first time fails from the baltimore org.

diehardskin2982 · 12-26-2014, 03:32 PM

I think having AJ as GM could be a great move on paper. AJ can pick talent, his issue was the money part of it. Bruce is a great organizer and can manage the cap. If they could work together they make the perfect GM. People's ability to work together is what makes them champions.

REDSKINS4ever · 12-26-2014, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I think having AJ as GM could be a great move on paper. AJ can pick talent, his issue was the money part of it. Bruce is a great organizer and can manage the cap. If they could work together they make the perfect GM. People's ability to work together is what makes them champions.

Yeah, I agree....Smith's son is a Redskins scout. Smith does indeed have the eye for talent and more talent is what this team needs.

Lotus · 12-26-2014, 04:52 PM

I couldn't give a fig about A.J. Smith's title.

The question is, does he or Bruce have control? If the answer is Bruce, then changing titles changes nothing.

AJ Smith assembled some very talented teams without having Snyder's checkbook, which could alter which players he keeps. We could do worse at GM.

rocnrik · 12-26-2014, 06:06 PM

Guys..how about all the talk as long as Snyder owns the team the Skins will never be good?? 90% of every post on redskins forums all lead back to the same issue…the OWNER..so do you really think any of this will work as long as Snyder owns the team..just asking ..

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12-26-2014, 01:03 PM	#20
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,281	Re: A.J. Smith to be Redskins GM? [QUOTE=Paintrain;1101468]Is that a good thing? Our 2014 draft class, outside of Breeland, was a bust this year (though I think Grant will be a good WR going forward & Murphy can contribute but isn't special) and 2013 is not looking stellar either. Amerson & Reed didn't step forward and Thomas & Thompson are just seeing the field. 6 of the 15 players picked are no longer on the roster or practice squad. If he gets full and total control over football ops, then I may be intrigued but if not, it's same old same old. I agree on Campbell as well as the scouting staff. Hopefully if he's hired, he can influence Snyder to give the scouting department some legitimacy in terms of investment and respect.[/ Some of you wanted Breeland cut cause he was smoking some weed in camp. Lol. He's not only been one of the best players on defense, but is obviously a future star in the making. What I like most about him is he's constantly in that film room grinding away trying to get better. The front office doesn't get many right but they nailed it with Breeland.

12-26-2014, 01:22 PM	#21
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,281	Re: A.J. Smith to be Redskins GM? Smith let some good players walk out of San Diego. I'd prefer that they go get a young up and coming guy who's been in the trenches for several years. Get Newsome's right hand man. Baltimore has about a solid organization as there is. We need someone that comes from a winning organization.

12-26-2014, 01:30 PM	#22
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: A.J. Smith to be Redskins GM? How would we all grade Shack Harris, George Kokinis, and Phil Savage as General Managers? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

12-26-2014, 01:34 PM	#23
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: A.J. Smith to be Redskins GM? If newsome leaves the ravens and joins the skins I will have a ticket connection. My lady is friends with his daughter .... The other newsome in scout dept, not Ozzie. Smoot - is it true aj smith doesn't like our 3 qbs? __________________ Life is brutal, but beautiful

12-26-2014, 02:47 PM	#25
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: A.J. Smith to be Redskins GM? Chico. None are being talked about. My point was just that all were Newsome disciples yet none turned their franchises around when they became GMs. All solid football people, but I don't know why we just assume DeCosta is the answer just because he's with the Ravens I don't know how AJ Smith feels about the QBs anymore than what's been said publicly __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

12-26-2014, 03:32 PM	#27
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: A.J. Smith to be Redskins GM? I think having AJ as GM could be a great move on paper. AJ can pick talent, his issue was the money part of it. Bruce is a great organizer and can manage the cap. If they could work together they make the perfect GM. People's ability to work together is what makes them champions. __________________ That got ugly fast

12-26-2014, 04:52 PM	#29
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: A.J. Smith to be Redskins GM? I couldn't give a fig about A.J. Smith's title. The question is, does he or Bruce have control? If the answer is Bruce, then changing titles changes nothing. AJ Smith assembled some very talented teams without having Snyder's checkbook, which could alter which players he keeps. We could do worse at GM. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

12-26-2014, 06:06 PM	#30
rocnrik Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,720	Re: A.J. Smith to be Redskins GM? Guys..how about all the talk as long as Snyder owns the team the Skins will never be good?? 90% of every post on redskins forums all lead back to the same issue…the OWNER..so do you really think any of this will work as long as Snyder owns the team..just asking ..

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