How the draft looks if we trade down

MTK · 12-30-2014, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

We did that in 2011 and it got us Jarvis Jenkins. I wanna stay where we are and take the BPA

Same for me. People fall in love with this idea of having more picks, but where has it gotten us the last few times we did it? We need impact players not just quantity.

Irrefutable · 12-30-2014, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Same for me. People fall in love with this idea of having more picks, but where has it gotten us the last few times we did it? We need impact players not just quantity.

Stevie Wonder has a better chance of finding an impact player than the Redskins staff.

MTK · 12-30-2014, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Stevie Wonder has a better chance of finding an impact player than the Redskins staff.

If it's one thing we've hit on under Snyder it's the high first rounders. Samuels, Arrington, Williams, Taylor, etc.

SFREDSKIN · 12-30-2014, 06:42 PM

Bobby Beathard and Bill Walsh were the kings of trading down, hopefully we can get a competent GM that can do that.

DynamiteRave · 12-30-2014, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

If it's one thing we've hit on under Snyder it's the high first rounders. Samuels, Arrington, Williams, Taylor, etc.

I'd rather use the high picks to get 2 or 3 players who can immediately make an impact and then some late round guys to develop. Instead of getting a bunch of above average to average guys who may or may not pan out with future development. Every now and then you get a Tom Brady or an Alfmo or a Breeland, but considering how incompetent our scouts have been and the fact we can't draft for shit I'd rather not take that risk.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-30-2014, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

You could be right and I understand your logic. I'm still miffed that we could have had JJ Watt but traded down instead.

I'm guessing, though, that Winston and Mariota will not be valued as highly by real teams as they are by the numerous draft sites which have them going at the top.

The QB's who were supposed to revolutionize the game: RGIII, Kaep, Newton, etc., have mostly struggled (Russell Wilson excepted). So I think more GM's will be cautious about drafting nontraditional QB's like Mariota or Winston. The game has caught up with the "running" QB.

Which is a long way of saying that I don't see Leonard Williams dropping to five. Just my two cents.

Hopefully he is, him and Kerrigan would be our version of Justin and Aldon Smith

British Andy · 12-30-2014, 07:22 PM

When we are talking about trading down here we are only really looking at moving from 5 to say 11. If Williams is there then you take him (likely he won't be) otherwise is there a huge difference between the players available at these spots?

I am for trading down a few spots if Williams is gone to grab an extra 2nd rounder. After that, let's pick BPA at the top of each round.

Oh and getting someone in who can identify talent is a must. I fully recognise that we are currently poor in this aspect. That's where our most important changes are needed this off season.

CRedskinsRule · 12-30-2014, 07:58 PM

I hear the Titans will trade us their pick for just 2 additional First Rounders

DynamiteRave · 12-30-2014, 08:51 PM

Mock draft has Williams going to the Titans. The one I read (if we kept the #5 spot) has us picking up Landon Collins at SS from Bama.

skinsfaninok · 12-30-2014, 09:18 PM

Is collins worth that pick

IrMitchell · 12-30-2014, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Is collins worth that pick

No. We need coverage skills.

IrMitchell · 12-30-2014, 09:41 PM

Also, yes trade down please. If we can't get one of the big two rushers, it's gotta happen.

Although I'm not against cutting ties with Garcon and drafting Cooper.

Irrefutable · 12-30-2014, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

If it's one thing we've hit on under Snyder it's the high first rounders. Samuels, Arrington, Williams, Taylor, etc.

I do not think Snyder is making the picks ...... and there are no Sean Taylors, Chris Samuels, or Trent Williams in this draft. It is going to a major make-over to make this team good.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-30-2014, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Irrefutable

I do not think Snyder is making the picks ...... and there are no Sean Taylors, Chris Samuels, or Trent Williams in this draft. It is going to a major make-over to make this team good.

They say that every draft, and every draft they are wrong. JJ Watt wasn't JJ Watt coming out of college.

Leonard Williams
Randy Gregory
Shane Ray
Jameis Winston
Ronnie Stanley
Amari Cooper
Landon Collins
Marcus Mariotta (Don't want him)

You can't tell me there will not be a great prospect at pick #5.

Lotus · 12-30-2014, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

They say that every draft, and every draft they are wrong. JJ Watt wasn't JJ Watt coming out of college.

Leonard Williams
Randy Gregory
Shane Ray
Jameis Winston
Ronnie Stanley
Amari Cooper
Landon Collins
Marcus Mariotta (Don't want him)

You can't tell me there will not be a great prospect at pick #5.

Of those players, IMO Williams is the only one worth the #5 pick. There is a case also for Gregory. Maybe Cooper. All other players on that list have some problematic element.

As for Stanley, IMO we can trade down and still get him because #5 is way too high for him.

again, just my two cents.

12-30-2014, 06:42 PM	#19
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down Bobby Beathard and Bill Walsh were the kings of trading down, hopefully we can get a competent GM that can do that. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

12-30-2014, 07:22 PM	#22
British Andy Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 29	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down When we are talking about trading down here we are only really looking at moving from 5 to say 11. If Williams is there then you take him (likely he won't be) otherwise is there a huge difference between the players available at these spots? I am for trading down a few spots if Williams is gone to grab an extra 2nd rounder. After that, let's pick BPA at the top of each round. Oh and getting someone in who can identify talent is a must. I fully recognise that we are currently poor in this aspect. That's where our most important changes are needed this off season.

12-30-2014, 07:58 PM	#23
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,429	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down I hear the Titans will trade us their pick for just 2 additional First Rounders

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DynamiteRave Living Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 38 Posts: 16,867	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down Mock draft has Williams going to the Titans. The one I read (if we kept the #5 spot) has us picking up Landon Collins at SS from Bama. __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I've been a part of this message board for 17 years. Damn I'm old.

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12-30-2014, 09:41 PM	#27
IrMitchell Impact Rookie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 657	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down Also, yes trade down please. If we can't get one of the big two rushers, it's gotta happen. Although I'm not against cutting ties with Garcon and drafting Cooper. __________________ One of Canada's two Redskins fans.

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