The UGLY, the Bad and the gud

CRedskinsRule · 12-08-2015, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Good = defense all around, u can't ask for much more the last 2 weeks. This unit has stepped up. Kirk cousins in the 4th qtr.

Bad= offense all around especially o line which is unusual. Djax wtf man?? Jordan reed wtf where has he gone?

Ugly= wow special teams sucked and especially on the last kickoff smh. And how do u lose to the Cowboys at home on mnf without romo???

honestly, it's because it was home on MNF without Romo, that I was pretty confident we were going to lose (much like last year we won with Colt McCoy in Dallas on MNF against them). That's why these division games are rarely like Vegas would say.

Alvin Walton · 12-08-2015, 05:18 PM

AFAIC the Jackson fumble was 7/10s the reason we lost.
It was tied with 1:47 left when he coughed it up.
We were moving the ball a decent bit before that.
Gain 45 more yards, kick the field goal and we win.
I really dont care that he got a TD after that.
The eff up was a ginormous game changer.
Jackson gifted the Cowboys a TD in a game commanded by field goals.

The defense was decent but the pass pressure was very inconsistent, only one sack but considering our injuries and newbies it aint all bad.

Cousins - played pretty decent.
I have been on the fence as whether to anoint him as our "starting caliber" QB next year. I've almost fallen off the fence. I would expect to be off that fence by seasons end. I hope so....

The running game - What running game?
The other 3/10s why we lost.
I wish we had all our starting Oline guys back.

We got penalized 73 yards...WTF...thats enough yards for a scoring drive.
(although 2 of them were utter horseshit, especially the Grant clip)

I'm going to be pissed about this game for a long time.

And as soon as the football year begins (2016) I would trade Wrongway Jackson. Get him the feck off this team. (Hes contracted thru 2016, right?)

DYoungJelly · 12-08-2015, 07:37 PM

Bad and Ugly:

Play calling and/or coaching.

Cowboys vs. Redskins - Box Score - December 7, 2015 - ESPN

Averaging 2.8 yards per carry. DY had zero offensive snaps.

Cooley and Portis are saying on the radio today, put our best 11 players on the field. Screw the packages, put our best players on the field. Tom Compton and Ty Nseke aren't our best players.

If the LBs and ends are crashing, why wouldn't we call boot till they stopped crashing.

Good:

Echo some of the other posts. Chris Baker and the rest of the D. Really liked the energy they brought. Everybody was hitting and ball hawking. They truly looked like a different team out there on D last night.

skinsfan69 · 12-08-2015, 08:12 PM

Cooley and CP are dead on. That formation was pure shit and the Cowboys blew it up on both 2nd and 3rd and 1 that killed a drive. During that drive leave in your regular personnel. 2nd and 1 is the best down for a deep play action pass. Instead they put in that stupid formation. Why??? Wanted to put my fist through the tv screen. Just atrocious play calling. Perfect example of Gruden calling plays to just get first downs. It was the same shit last week.,

I have little confidence in Gruden as a game planner, play caller and someone that can make adjustments.

NoCalHail · 12-08-2015, 10:01 PM

Gruden and McVay were calling the game as if they expected Dallas to play so bad that it wouldn't matter how little the offense produced and it almost worked because of our defense and yes, how bad Dallas was on offense.

The offense had so many opportunities to put the game out of reach early. I can't stand games like these where the opponent is playing so bad that you know it's just going to take a TD early on to end their night, but you just can't get it done. If we convert one of those turnovers into a TD, and another one into a FG, Dallas is toast.

Hog1 · 12-08-2015, 10:09 PM

The Redskins are just like the ride requirement at the carnival........
You must be "this tall" to ride this ride. We're not quite up to the line yet. But SM and another year, we'll be taller......httr

CRedskinsRule · 12-08-2015, 10:27 PM

My main gripe with gruden is the lack of a killer instinct. It just seems that he wants to play the patience game throughout and only go for the kill if the game is ending.

Sent from my S6 Edge

skinsfan69 · 12-08-2015, 10:34 PM

I was all for bringing him back but idk now. His pussy ass offense and his unwillingness to change it is really concerning. We probably lead the league in 2nd and 10 or longer. And not using DY at all when you're averaging a whopping 2 yards a carry is just ridiculous.

Ruhskins · 12-08-2015, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I was all for bringing him back but idk now. His pussy ass offense and his unwillingness to change it is really concerning. We probably lead the league in 2nd and 10 or longer. And not using DY at all when you're averaging a whopping 2 yards a carry is just ridiculous.

Also, last time I checked, DY does a decent job at pass protection and does a good job at catching the ball.

skinsfan69 · 12-09-2015, 07:44 AM

I think with Jordan Reed, they might as well have him drop 10 or 15 lbs during the off season and move him to wr. He can't block a girl, none the less NFL LB.'s.

Chico23231 · 12-09-2015, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NoCalHail

Gruden and McVay were calling the game as if they expected Dallas to play so bad that it wouldn't matter how little the offense produced and it almost worked because of our defense and yes, how bad Dallas was on offense.

The offense had so many opportunities to put the game out of reach early. I can't stand games like these where the opponent is playing so bad that you know it's just going to take a TD early on to end their night, but you just can't get it done. If we convert one of those turnovers into a TD, and another one into a FG, Dallas is toast.

its not an attacking offense for sure...you have Reed and Djax was weapon who cause major match up disadvantages. I don't get it. Matt Jones is a weapon catching the ball as well.

Chico23231 · 12-09-2015, 10:10 AM

So Mason Foster comes in off the street and plays better than Compton, Robinson and Riley have all year?

Folks, We have a serious problem at ILB. Expect McC to completely rebuild ILB spot this offseason.

NoCalHail · 12-09-2015, 11:47 AM

Not to mention Dunbar coming off the street as a former WR and playing at least as good as some other defenders.

KI Skins Fan · 12-09-2015, 12:16 PM

When you're building a team, you keep bringing in people until you find some who can play. I don't want that to ever stop.

The biggest deficiency at both ILB and OLB is lack of speed. That was highlighted by playing Mason Foster. He made plays that our other LB's can't make because he's fast and they aren't.

30gut · 12-09-2015, 04:28 PM

The bad/ugly is the bullshit running gameplan.

Jay is about as enthusiastic about the running game as a kid being told to eat their peas and it shows in the predictability and lack of creativity.
Jay and staff have been repeating the same mind numbingly obvious mistakes since preseason.

Telegraphing run tendencies based on personnel and formation.
Telegraphing based on down and distance.
I am tired of hearing the excuses about personnel, lack of blocking TEs etc.
They have known about these short coming since preseason!

I hate hearing about excuses about TEs/short yardage when you turned one the best blocking FBs(decent short yardage runner and receiver) in the NFL into a bystander.

The run game is a disgrace.

12-08-2015, 05:18 PM	#17
Alvin Walton Pro Bowl Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 5,741	Re: The UGLY, the Bad and the gud AFAIC the Jackson fumble was 7/10s the reason we lost. It was tied with 1:47 left when he coughed it up. We were moving the ball a decent bit before that. Gain 45 more yards, kick the field goal and we win. I really dont care that he got a TD after that. The eff up was a ginormous game changer. Jackson gifted the Cowboys a TD in a game commanded by field goals. The defense was decent but the pass pressure was very inconsistent, only one sack but considering our injuries and newbies it aint all bad. Cousins - played pretty decent. I have been on the fence as whether to anoint him as our "starting caliber" QB next year. I've almost fallen off the fence. I would expect to be off that fence by seasons end. I hope so.... The running game - What running game? The other 3/10s why we lost. I wish we had all our starting Oline guys back. We got penalized 73 yards...WTF...thats enough yards for a scoring drive. (although 2 of them were utter horseshit, especially the Grant clip) I'm going to be pissed about this game for a long time. And as soon as the football year begins (2016) I would trade Wrongway Jackson. Get him the feck off this team. (Hes contracted thru 2016, right?) __________________ REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968

12-08-2015, 07:37 PM	#18
DYoungJelly The Starter Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,300	Re: The UGLY, the Bad and the gud Bad and Ugly: Play calling and/or coaching. Cowboys vs. Redskins - Box Score - December 7, 2015 - ESPN Averaging 2.8 yards per carry. DY had zero offensive snaps. Cooley and Portis are saying on the radio today, put our best 11 players on the field. Screw the packages, put our best players on the field. Tom Compton and Ty Nseke aren't our best players. If the LBs and ends are crashing, why wouldn't we call boot till they stopped crashing. Good: Echo some of the other posts. Chris Baker and the rest of the D. Really liked the energy they brought. Everybody was hitting and ball hawking. They truly looked like a different team out there on D last night. __________________ I'm tired of these monkey fighting snakes on this Monday to Friday plane!

12-08-2015, 08:12 PM	#19
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,281	Re: The UGLY, the Bad and the gud Cooley and CP are dead on. That formation was pure shit and the Cowboys blew it up on both 2nd and 3rd and 1 that killed a drive. During that drive leave in your regular personnel. 2nd and 1 is the best down for a deep play action pass. Instead they put in that stupid formation. Why??? Wanted to put my fist through the tv screen. Just atrocious play calling. Perfect example of Gruden calling plays to just get first downs. It was the same shit last week., I have little confidence in Gruden as a game planner, play caller and someone that can make adjustments.

12-08-2015, 10:01 PM	#20
NoCalHail Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 368	Re: The UGLY, the Bad and the gud Gruden and McVay were calling the game as if they expected Dallas to play so bad that it wouldn't matter how little the offense produced and it almost worked because of our defense and yes, how bad Dallas was on offense. The offense had so many opportunities to put the game out of reach early. I can't stand games like these where the opponent is playing so bad that you know it's just going to take a TD early on to end their night, but you just can't get it done. If we convert one of those turnovers into a TD, and another one into a FG, Dallas is toast.

12-08-2015, 10:09 PM	#21
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: The UGLY, the Bad and the gud The Redskins are just like the ride requirement at the carnival........ You must be "this tall" to ride this ride. We're not quite up to the line yet. But SM and another year, we'll be taller......httr __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

12-08-2015, 10:27 PM	#22
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,429	Re: The UGLY, the Bad and the gud My main gripe with gruden is the lack of a killer instinct. It just seems that he wants to play the patience game throughout and only go for the kill if the game is ending. Sent from my S6 Edge

12-08-2015, 10:34 PM	#23
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,281	Re: The UGLY, the Bad and the gud I was all for bringing him back but idk now. His pussy ass offense and his unwillingness to change it is really concerning. We probably lead the league in 2nd and 10 or longer. And not using DY at all when you're averaging a whopping 2 yards a carry is just ridiculous.

12-09-2015, 07:44 AM	#25
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,281	Re: The UGLY, the Bad and the gud I think with Jordan Reed, they might as well have him drop 10 or 15 lbs during the off season and move him to wr. He can't block a girl, none the less NFL LB.'s.

12-09-2015, 10:10 AM	#27
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,505	Re: The UGLY, the Bad and the gud So Mason Foster comes in off the street and plays better than Compton, Robinson and Riley have all year? Folks, We have a serious problem at ILB. Expect McC to completely rebuild ILB spot this offseason.

12-09-2015, 11:47 AM	#28
NoCalHail Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 368	Re: The UGLY, the Bad and the gud Not to mention Dunbar coming off the street as a former WR and playing at least as good as some other defenders.

12-09-2015, 12:16 PM	#29
KI Skins Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Forida Posts: 6,398	Re: The UGLY, the Bad and the gud When you're building a team, you keep bringing in people until you find some who can play. I don't want that to ever stop. The biggest deficiency at both ILB and OLB is lack of speed. That was highlighted by playing Mason Foster. He made plays that our other LB's can't make because he's fast and they aren't. __________________ I'm a big Caitlin Clark fan!

12-09-2015, 04:28 PM	#30
30gut Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,323	Re: The UGLY, the Bad and the gud The bad/ugly is the bullshit running gameplan. Jay is about as enthusiastic about the running game as a kid being told to eat their peas and it shows in the predictability and lack of creativity. Jay and staff have been repeating the same mind numbingly obvious mistakes since preseason. Telegraphing run tendencies based on personnel and formation. Telegraphing based on down and distance. I am tired of hearing the excuses about personnel, lack of blocking TEs etc. They have known about these short coming since preseason! I hate hearing about excuses about TEs/short yardage when you turned one the best blocking FBs(decent short yardage runner and receiver) in the NFL into a bystander. The run game is a disgrace.

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