Jordan Reed OMG thread

Chico23231 · 12-30-2015, 11:53 AM

Jay Gruden in Cincy ran 2 TE sets more than anybody in the league...Will be great to see NP and Jordan on the field at the same time next year. BUT Im not convinced the TE core is strong and deep...I would like to see an addition in the offseason with a TE who can block and catch come out of the draft. Play special teams and learn the system.

Evilgrin · 12-30-2015, 11:59 AM

Antonio Gates isn't making the HoF for his blocking.

JoeRedskin · 12-30-2015, 12:27 PM

Paul, Reed, DJax, Garcon in a standard 2 TE set would be pretty bad ass.

Reed & Paul create real match up problems.

calia · 12-30-2015, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Paul, Reed, DJax, Garcon in a standard 2 TE set would be pretty bad ass.

Reed & Paul create real match up problems.

Agreed! I pity the safeties that have to figure out where to slide for coverage. Would be a nightmare.

That Guy · 12-30-2015, 04:42 PM

reed's catching ability more than makes up for his run blocking issues, the same way djax's deep speed scares everyone else.

i'd love if both of them went to the hines ward school of blocking, but your offense is WAY better with them than with whatever blocking replacement you can find, so you live with it.

paul will let us go with more 2 TE when we're not in 3 WR, both formations should be really good for us. there's no way you'd ever put paul in front of reed though. NP isn't a great blocker either, though he has improved.

MTK · 12-30-2015, 05:13 PM

Blocking can be coached up, what I'd like to see from Reed is to cut down on the penalties. I think that also comes from technique/coaching.

That Guy · 12-30-2015, 07:29 PM

yeah, i've never seen skill player get so many holding penalties... and they were all pretty much pointless to. he kept getting called on plays where his holds didn't/wouldn't even help if the refs missed them.

30gut · 01-01-2016, 12:02 PM

If Sleepy Davis can become a good blocker, I think Davis can get there with a little extra work and willingness.

skinsfan69 · 01-01-2016, 01:03 PM

Having Paul back will be nice. But he is also a liability in the run game as well. He's just not a natural TE and often can not handle NFL LB's in the run game. He's more of an H back. Off the top of my head Paul should be Reed's backup and a standout on teams.

When we run 2 TE sets, it should be Reed as the H back, and a drafted pure TE playing the Y position.

skinsfan69 · 01-01-2016, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Paul, Reed, DJax, Garcon in a standard 2 TE set would be pretty bad ass.

Reed & Paul create real match up problems.

That personnel group would be a total mess when we ran the ball.

CRedskinsRule · 01-01-2016, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

That personnel group would be a total mess when we ran the ball.

Run the ball? Why would we do that?!?

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30gut · 01-01-2016, 01:30 PM

Paul, Reed, DJax, Garcon in a standard 2 TE set would be pretty bad ass.

^^^with that personnel group, even as a hardcore run game proponent myself, if the defense plays base personnel? I would almost never run the ball. LBs aren't gonna be able to cover Reed or even Paul. Now against a Nickel/Dime defense I would be more balanced because I know Niles can consistently block a DB.

JoeRedskin · 01-01-2016, 04:48 PM

^^ That's kind of what I am thinking. From that formation, they will almost never face eight in the box, but, even so, the play action has to be respected. If they don't adjust, it is a perfect offense for KC's passing style, if they do adjust, then we should be able to run over them.

REDSKINS4ever · 01-01-2016, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

Blocking can be coached up, what I'd like to see from Reed is to cut down on the penalties. I think that also comes from technique/coaching.

Reed is not a blocking TE. He's a receiving TE. He lacks the strength that a blocking TE has. Sure....he can be coached to block but that's not who he is.

KI Skins Fan · 01-01-2016, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Reed is not a blocking TE. He's a receiving TE. He lacks the strength that a blocking TE has. Sure....he can be coached to block but that's not who he is.

We are not saying that Reed should be able to block like Donnie Warren. We are saying that he can't block worth a damn compared to just about any other NFL football player. We just want him to become halfway decent at blocking. That's all.

12-30-2015, 11:53 AM	#16
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,505	Re: Jordan Reed OMG thread Jay Gruden in Cincy ran 2 TE sets more than anybody in the league...Will be great to see NP and Jordan on the field at the same time next year. BUT Im not convinced the TE core is strong and deep...I would like to see an addition in the offseason with a TE who can block and catch come out of the draft. Play special teams and learn the system. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

12-30-2015, 11:59 AM	#17
Evilgrin The Starter Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 1,074	Re: Jordan Reed OMG thread Antonio Gates isn't making the HoF for his blocking. __________________ Bruce Allen “We’re winning off the field,” Redskins #2 In Revenue Per Year!

12-30-2015, 12:27 PM	#18
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Jordan Reed OMG thread Paul, Reed, DJax, Garcon in a standard 2 TE set would be pretty bad ass. Reed & Paul create real match up problems. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

12-30-2015, 04:42 PM	#20
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Jordan Reed OMG thread reed's catching ability more than makes up for his run blocking issues, the same way djax's deep speed scares everyone else. i'd love if both of them went to the hines ward school of blocking, but your offense is WAY better with them than with whatever blocking replacement you can find, so you live with it. paul will let us go with more 2 TE when we're not in 3 WR, both formations should be really good for us. there's no way you'd ever put paul in front of reed though. NP isn't a great blocker either, though he has improved.

12-30-2015, 05:13 PM	#21
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: Jordan Reed OMG thread Blocking can be coached up, what I'd like to see from Reed is to cut down on the penalties. I think that also comes from technique/coaching. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-30-2015, 07:29 PM	#22
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Jordan Reed OMG thread yeah, i've never seen skill player get so many holding penalties... and they were all pretty much pointless to. he kept getting called on plays where his holds didn't/wouldn't even help if the refs missed them.

01-01-2016, 12:02 PM	#23
30gut Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,323	Re: Jordan Reed OMG thread If Sleepy Davis can become a good blocker, I think Davis can get there with a little extra work and willingness.

01-01-2016, 01:03 PM	#24
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,281	Re: Jordan Reed OMG thread Having Paul back will be nice. But he is also a liability in the run game as well. He's just not a natural TE and often can not handle NFL LB's in the run game. He's more of an H back. Off the top of my head Paul should be Reed's backup and a standout on teams. When we run 2 TE sets, it should be Reed as the H back, and a drafted pure TE playing the Y position.

01-01-2016, 01:30 PM	#27
30gut Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,323	Re: Jordan Reed OMG thread Paul, Reed, DJax, Garcon in a standard 2 TE set would be pretty bad ass. ^^^with that personnel group, even as a hardcore run game proponent myself, if the defense plays base personnel? I would almost never run the ball. LBs aren't gonna be able to cover Reed or even Paul. Now against a Nickel/Dime defense I would be more balanced because I know Niles can consistently block a DB.

01-01-2016, 04:48 PM	#28
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Jordan Reed OMG thread ^^ That's kind of what I am thinking. From that formation, they will almost never face eight in the box, but, even so, the play action has to be respected. If they don't adjust, it is a perfect offense for KC's passing style, if they do adjust, then we should be able to run over them. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

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