Is it time to seriously consider a replacement at HC?

[MTK]

Allen's record speaks for itself at this point. If Gruden goes Allen has to go too.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I don't get the BA hate here. Since he came and and has settled DS down, we have gotten our cap in solid shape, regardless of what people moan about on here our drafts under him and Doug Williams have been good to above average. Our roster is as deep as it has ever been. His one failing, and its not minor, has been the qb position.

BUT

Gruden is supposed to be a qb guru yet ours have consistently failed in big games, and underperformed at the beginning and end of the season. Gruden could be gone tomorrow and i wouldnt shed a tear, just hope DW, BA and DS have their eyes on the right next coach.

I mean the bolded part is kind of like, 'aside from that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?'

[Chico23231]

Id let Gruden stick around, but he needs to bring in a new OC imo. I think the step back has been fairly clear...Of course I like the running mentality, but I think Jay needs to share the blame along with Alex when it comes to the passing attack. There is a dullness with routes and scheme in general.

I wouldn't say a change at HC would be the best move. Bruce Allen needs to go for sure though.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I mean the bolded part is kind of like, 'aside from that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?'

lol Allen has failed repeatedly at trying to fill the QB spot, the Cousins debacle alone is a huge strike against him

[Chico23231]

QB decisions during BA tenure has been absolute garbage. Plus the one he didn't want to draft, didn't want on the roster, the one Danny hated....was the best one we had the last 20 years.

[irish]

I'd keep Gruden considering that he hasn't had much to work with and when he does have some talent it gets injured.

The front office is terrible and needs completely replaced. Also the training department needs replaced. This team is constantly injured (the AS injury aside) and seems incapable of staying healthy.

[mredskins]

A big loss for the Skins a few years back is when Vic Fangio picked the Bears over the Skins.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mredskins

A big loss for the Skins a few years back is when Vic Fangio picked the Bears over the Skins.

Jim Schwartz wouldn't take an interview here...and we passed on Wade.

Your right...these are FO...Bruce results. Coaches don't want to be here because of our front office which has been on Bruce.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by irish

I'd keep Gruden considering that he hasn't had much to work with and when he does have some talent it gets injured.

The front office is terrible and needs completely replaced. Also the training department needs replaced. This team is constantly injured (the AS injury aside) and seems incapable of staying healthy.

Yeah too many torn pectorals and shit like that. Scherff and McKinzy this year. Hell, Orakpo suffered at least one of those back in the day while he was here.

I'd like to see the training staff explain their procedures around flexibility. Something tells me they're just like huh? Flexibility? What that?

Can't just be strong, you have to be pliable or you get soft tissue shit.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by MTK

Allen's record speaks for itself at this point. If Gruden goes Allen has to go too.

I think Allen has a 6.5 win a year average and Gruden 7. Time to can them both.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah too many torn pectorals and shit like that. Scherff and McKinzy this year. Hell, Orakpo suffered at least one of those back in the day while he was here.

I'd like to see the training staff explain their procedures around flexibility. Something tells me they're just like huh? Flexibility? What that?

Can't just be strong, you have to be pliable or you get soft tissue shit.

Agree. Every team has injuries but for the Skins its non-stop. Something needs to change.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

I think Allen has a 6.5 win a year average and Gruden 7. Time to can them both.

It's past time for both of them to go. They have both had their chances and they failed to deliver. If you had a business and those two were your only salesmen, you'd be bankrupt.

I am sick and tired of on-the-field mediocrity but, apparently, Dan Snyder has become quite comfortable with it. Snyder needs to make some bold moves to get better and firing Allen and Gruden is a good start because their NFL careers are the very definition of mediocrity.

I would fire Allen for just the ridiculous Kirk Cousins fiasco and his failure to somehow, some way keep Sean McVay. And, yes, he could have kept McVay by firing Gruden and elevating McVay to HC. Eating two years of Gruden's salary to do it would have been worth it. It's easy for me to imagine the Skins being much better right now if we had signed Cousins and elevated McVay.

[Back2RFK]

If not Gruden then who?

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Back2RFK

If not Gruden then who?

That is the age old fan question. The answer is: That's not our problem, as fans. All Snyder has to do is to ask advice of the very best football executives in the NFL and use that as the starting point to find his next GM. Then the new GM can find the right HC.

[Defensewins]

Before we make any upgrades to the Head Coaching position, Bruce Allen has to go.
It is time. Bruce Allen was hired on 12/17/2009. In a few days he will have been here 9 years.
The long list of bad decisions made in just this past off-season in trades, free agency and the resigning of veterans on our roster too long to list.
The new GM should have a say in who is head coach.
I have started to be OK with the idea Doug Williams being GM.