Skins @ Browns PS WK 1

WCommandersfan99 · 08-07-2019, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rocnrik

Case will be the starter this year...he will surprise a lot of folks ! No need to wish Haskins to get beat up behind suspect line.. if Moses go down and Trent does not play we got a bad o line..

Really hope this is the case. Just think people are overlooking his experience and numbers thus far (respectable not elite.) Heard Denver's oline wasn't great at all last year. Again, give Keenum a fair chance. Haskins isn't going anywhere for awhile, and we pretty much know what we have in McCoy.

skinsfaninok · 08-07-2019, 10:50 AM

I believe
@CraigHoffman
reported this but yes Colt McCoy will be held out Thursday night. Want to keep making sure about the leg. Was held out for precautionary reasons in full team drill the other day. Held out one practice earlier too.

Glass man

Chico23231 · 08-07-2019, 10:56 AM

Colt obviously rushed back and not healthy....and the Front office keeps wondering why we stay the most injured team year after year. these fucking dopes

Buffalo Bob · 08-07-2019, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Colt obviously rushed back and not healthy....and the Front office keeps wondering why we stay the most injured team year after year. these fucking dopes

That could be on the player also, wanting to play and not being 100% honest about how they feel.

Schneed10 · 08-07-2019, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I believe
@CraigHoffman
reported this but yes Colt McCoy will be held out Thursday night. Want to keep making sure about the leg. Was held out for precautionary reasons in full team drill the other day. Held out one practice earlier too.

Glass man

Warthog · 08-07-2019, 10:08 PM

I’m glad Colt isn’t playing this game because it means more reps for Dwayne with the second team.

I wanted to see Guice play, but interested to see the Perrine vs Byron dynamic. Both those guys have been playing well in TC.

I want to see the rookie WR and second year WR. Want to see McLaurin and Quinn and Cam Sims and Harmon. I don’t care about Doctson - I think he will be dumped before the regular season. Other WR on the bubble.

Want to see Sweat make a sack or two

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Warthog · 08-07-2019, 10:17 PM

I want to see some bubble players or guys coming back from injuries that are having a really good training camp:

Parham -rookie TE

Ioannidas - second yr - DL

Davis -WR

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WCommandersfan99 · 08-07-2019, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I believe
@CraigHoffman
reported this but yes Colt McCoy will be held out Thursday night. Want to keep making sure about the leg. Was held out for precautionary reasons in full team drill the other day. Held out one practice earlier too.

Glass man

Yeah I don't like the fact that he's out at all. Just looks terrible considering how he ended the season last year. SMH. Maybe it is something minor (hopefully), but it is not encouraging.

Warthog · 08-07-2019, 11:04 PM

Colt has never been able to make it through a season without getting hurt. He is a journeyman BACKUP QB with a very average 75 QB rating. He has had opportunities to be the #1 QB before, and it has never worked out. He is what, 32? So does anyone really think he is going to magically transform to be an elite QB and take this team to the top of the NFC East?

At best, Colt or Case is going to take this team through five or six losses before they bring in Haskins to finish out the season.

I’d rather see Haskins start from game 1 and give him the experience, even through the losses. He’ll be that much better next season.

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FrenchSkin · 08-08-2019, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Warthog

I want to see some bubble players or guys coming back from injuries that are having a really good training camp:

Parham -rookie TE

Ioannidas - second yr - DL

Davis -WR

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Ioannidis is entering his 4th season, but I do hope he's recovered well from his injury.

On the bubble guys, I agree the TE position will be interesting, can Flanagan and/or Holtz make the team as TE/FB ?

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sevier2 · 08-08-2019, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Competent passing game would be nice. We have the defense, we have good special teams play, and we have a decent Running game......we need the passing game. Stable Oline play would be a close second

While I agree I really want to see us move the ball through the air, I disagree that we "have the defense." I want them to prove it tomorrow night. On paper, yeah it looks good. But I've been burned too many times by this team to ever just assume we're going to have a solid unit, wherever it may be.

The defensive line is the only unit who has SHOWN and PROVED that they can be relied on. After that it's 2 new starters at ILB, Kerrigan and possibly a Rookie on the outsides (if not then it's Ryan Anderson on one side which is probably worse.) Not the strongest line backing core although Kerrigan is an obvious stud.

Then in the secondary we have Norman who has also PROVEN to be solid but then what? Collins is a beast, but he hasn't played a down here and we can't assume he's going to play at that previous level. (Haynsworth?) Monte has been oft hurt, who plays if he goes down? Is Dunbar coming back healthy and at a similar performance level?

Case in point; I want to see the defense play to the ability I know they're capable of. We assume they will play well and they really should, but I have been let down too many times before to just take it for granted. I think the D-Line leadership is taking over the entire defense and those men up front set the tone and culture. It could and should be something special, I just want to actually see it.

EDIT: I do realize tomorrow is Pre-Season Game 1 and there's still plenty of work to be done. I just want to see that the defense is headed in the right direction with all the talent on that side of the ball.

Chico23231 · 08-08-2019, 09:25 AM

^I totally agree. Ill say this, easily most talent on the defensive side of the ball in over ten years. You have a couple guys approaching end of expensive contracts - R Kerrigan and Josh Norman. We need put it together this year

The coaching staff has zero excuses for defense

skinsfaninok · 08-08-2019, 09:58 AM

No excuses for the Defense, we absolutely should be a top 12 scoring D.

skinsfaninok · 08-08-2019, 10:00 AM

If I had to guess, I'd say we will average about 22 PPG on Offense (bottom 10 or so)

Give up an average of 21 PPG (Should be top 12-15).

7-9 wins possible, anything higher would be an absolute surprise

Back2RFK · 08-08-2019, 12:03 PM

What a surprise I thought we were playing Friday or Saturday night and I couldn't watch either of those nights. Now I can see the game and have something to do tonight. Hell I think I will fire up the grill and smoke some wings.

With that said I just want to see us stay healthy and see future leader Haskins play.

08-07-2019, 10:50 AM	#17
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,149	Re: Skins @ Browns PS WK 1 I believe @CraigHoffman reported this but yes Colt McCoy will be held out Thursday night. Want to keep making sure about the leg. Was held out for precautionary reasons in full team drill the other day. Held out one practice earlier too. Glass man __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

08-07-2019, 10:56 AM	#18
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,611	Re: Skins @ Browns PS WK 1 Colt obviously rushed back and not healthy....and the Front office keeps wondering why we stay the most injured team year after year. these fucking dopes __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

08-07-2019, 10:08 PM	#21
Warthog The Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Doylestown, PA Posts: 1,253	Re: Skins @ Browns PS WK 1 I’m glad Colt isn’t playing this game because it means more reps for Dwayne with the second team. I wanted to see Guice play, but interested to see the Perrine vs Byron dynamic. Both those guys have been playing well in TC. I want to see the rookie WR and second year WR. Want to see McLaurin and Quinn and Cam Sims and Harmon. I don’t care about Doctson - I think he will be dumped before the regular season. Other WR on the bubble. Want to see Sweat make a sack or two Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Four Combat Tours in Afghanistan, Iraq and Kuwait. Flyboy. "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave"

08-07-2019, 10:17 PM	#22
Warthog The Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Doylestown, PA Posts: 1,253	Re: Skins @ Browns PS WK 1 I want to see some bubble players or guys coming back from injuries that are having a really good training camp: Parham -rookie TE Ioannidas - second yr - DL Davis -WR Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Four Combat Tours in Afghanistan, Iraq and Kuwait. Flyboy. "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave"

08-07-2019, 11:04 PM	#24
Warthog The Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Doylestown, PA Posts: 1,253	Re: Skins @ Browns PS WK 1 Colt has never been able to make it through a season without getting hurt. He is a journeyman BACKUP QB with a very average 75 QB rating. He has had opportunities to be the #1 QB before, and it has never worked out. He is what, 32? So does anyone really think he is going to magically transform to be an elite QB and take this team to the top of the NFC East? At best, Colt or Case is going to take this team through five or six losses before they bring in Haskins to finish out the season. I’d rather see Haskins start from game 1 and give him the experience, even through the losses. He’ll be that much better next season. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Four Combat Tours in Afghanistan, Iraq and Kuwait. Flyboy. "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave"

08-08-2019, 09:25 AM	#27
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,611	Re: Skins @ Browns PS WK 1 ^I totally agree. Ill say this, easily most talent on the defensive side of the ball in over ten years. You have a couple guys approaching end of expensive contracts - R Kerrigan and Josh Norman. We need put it together this year The coaching staff has zero excuses for defense __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

08-08-2019, 09:58 AM	#28
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,149	Re: Skins @ Browns PS WK 1 No excuses for the Defense, we absolutely should be a top 12 scoring D. __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

08-08-2019, 10:00 AM	#29
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,149	Re: Skins @ Browns PS WK 1 If I had to guess, I'd say we will average about 22 PPG on Offense (bottom 10 or so) Give up an average of 21 PPG (Should be top 12-15). 7-9 wins possible, anything higher would be an absolute surprise __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

08-08-2019, 12:03 PM	#30
Back2RFK Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 366	Re: Skins @ Browns PS WK 1 What a surprise I thought we were playing Friday or Saturday night and I couldn't watch either of those nights. Now I can see the game and have something to do tonight. Hell I think I will fire up the grill and smoke some wings. With that said I just want to see us stay healthy and see future leader Haskins play.

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