what's wrong with gardner??

SKINSnCANES · 03-31-2004, 03:36 AM

Id love to end our discussion about which one to draft by discussing how awesome our team is becuase we have both.

AnonEmouse · 03-31-2004, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Are you crazy daseal??? YOUR SO STUPID!!! haha, just kidding around. That would be freaking awsome if we could pull out some type of deal to get Taylor and KW II here. Would we be able to sign both of them though?? I heard today our cap # as of right now is 1.5 million. I'm not sure what the Trotter trade could get us, but as of right now, we could proboly only afford to have one anwyays, wouldnt you think?

I'm not sure of the exact rules, but teams get cap help with rookies (something about a rookie cap separate from the main cap?) so the 1.5M may not apply. Also consider that Trotter and Gardners (admittedly not high) cap numbers vanish with a trade.

If we manage a coup and can sign both, don't expect cap problems to get in the way.

sportscurmudgeon · 03-31-2004, 01:22 PM

There are a thousand trade rumors circulating in Florida at the moment.

There is one particular trade rumor floating around the owners' meetings about a trade between the Skins and the Chargers involving the Skins getting the overall #1 pick from San Diego. Trotter and the #5 pick are involved. And there are other picks and players that are rumored to go both ways.

This is all pure rumor and speculation. But if anyone hears that Robert Gallery is scheduled to visit Redskins Park, pay very close attention to what happens next...

JoeRedskin · 03-31-2004, 01:33 PM

Noooooooooo. Enough already. Blockbuster or not, can we stop trading away picks?? Drafting good, young and cheap talent will pay dividends both today (hungry, talented players generally make good special teamers) and lay a foundation for when replacing players.

AND what do we want with the number 1 pick this year? Either Taylor or Winslow would fill a need and the consensus is that both will be available at our slot. Quite frankly, if we can drop a spot or two, and pick up another pick this year, I think that would be the best thing we could do.

As for Gardner and Trotter, if we can trade em straight up for picks (at least a 3rd for Gardner and anything we can get for Trotter) - God bless'em.

It just seems to me that the Skins tend to be a bit cavalier with their picks which (again, just to me) seems to be a bad long term plan.

Okay, that's my two cents.

SmootSmack · 03-31-2004, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

There are a thousand trade rumors circulating in Florida at the moment.

There is one particular trade rumor floating around the owners' meetings about a trade between the Skins and the Chargers involving the Skins getting the overall #1 pick from San Diego. Trotter and the #5 pick are involved. And there are other picks and players that are rumored to go both ways.

This is all pure rumor and speculation. But if anyone hears that Robert Gallery is scheduled to visit Redskins Park, pay very close attention to what happens next...

Wow, is Gardner part of these trade talks? He seems perfect for the Chargers. Gallery seems like a good choice for the Chargers as well, give them some protection

Ade Jimoh Fan Club · 03-31-2004, 01:51 PM

If we trade for the #1 overall - I hope to hell that we turn around and sell it off to the highest bidder - someone who's all lovey dovey for Manning or Fitzgerald. We can get what we need at #5.

JoeRedskin · 03-31-2004, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ade Jimoh Fan Club

If we trade for the #1 overall - I hope to hell that we turn around and sell it off to the highest bidder - someone who's all lovey dovey for Manning or Fitzgerald. We can get what we need at #5.

Actually, that makes more sense. I wouldn't be suprised if "blockbuster" meant a three team deal with players and picks flying all over the place.

BTW - What date is the draft? Thanks

Gmanc711 · 03-31-2004, 02:03 PM

Saturday April 24th is the first round.

JoeRedskin · 03-31-2004, 02:07 PM

Thanks GManc

JWsleep · 03-31-2004, 02:49 PM

Wow, Sportscurm. Keep us posted on the juiciest rumors! That will really keep the site hopping until draft day.

Looks to me like we don't need a QB or a WR, so maybe Gallery, but we've got a lot of beef there already. Still, it's a Gibbs/Bugel team. Interesting...

Defensewins · 03-31-2004, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JWsleep

...Looks to me like we don't need a QB or a WR, so maybe Gallery, but we've got a lot of beef there already. Still, it's a Gibbs/Bugel team. Interesting...

Maybe draft Gallery and trade Samuels and his very high salary cap number? Samules is still balking at renegotiating his contract.

JoeRedskin · 03-31-2004, 03:58 PM

Okay, I got one.

The fifth pick, Gardner, Trotter, and our Fifth rounder to San Diego for the top pick, a player to be named (do they have any decent D-Lineman?) and a late (6 or 7th) round pick.

The first pick then goes to the Giants (who use it on Eli), in return for the fourth pick, the Giants second rounder this year and next.

THEN if Gallery is available at four, the fourth pick to Cleveland (who really want Gallery) for the seventh pick and a 3rd. And with the seventh pick take KWII (as Detroit will take Taylor)

If Gallery not available - Keep fourth and take Taylor

Boy that was fun. How much do I get if I am right??

SKINSnCANES · 03-31-2004, 03:58 PM

trading samuels to get Gallery woudlnt make anysense. We wouldnt gain anything and we'd have to trade up to Gallery and then pay him as much as Samuels. If Samuels is smart he'll get a new agent.

03-31-2004, 03:36 AM	#16
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	Id love to end our discussion about which one to draft by discussing how awesome our team is becuase we have both. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

03-31-2004, 01:22 PM	#18
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	There are a thousand trade rumors circulating in Florida at the moment. There is one particular trade rumor floating around the owners' meetings about a trade between the Skins and the Chargers involving the Skins getting the overall #1 pick from San Diego. Trotter and the #5 pick are involved. And there are other picks and players that are rumored to go both ways. This is all pure rumor and speculation. But if anyone hears that Robert Gallery is scheduled to visit Redskins Park, pay very close attention to what happens next... __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

03-31-2004, 02:49 PM	#25
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,717	Wow, Sportscurm. Keep us posted on the juiciest rumors! That will really keep the site hopping until draft day. Looks to me like we don't need a QB or a WR, so maybe Gallery, but we've got a lot of beef there already. Still, it's a Gibbs/Bugel team. Interesting... __________________ Hail from Houston!

03-31-2004, 03:58 PM	#28
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	trading samuels to get Gallery woudlnt make anysense. We wouldnt gain anything and we'd have to trade up to Gallery and then pay him as much as Samuels. If Samuels is smart he'll get a new agent. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

03-31-2004, 01:33 PM	#19
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Noooooooooo. Enough already. Blockbuster or not, can we stop trading away picks?? Drafting good, young and cheap talent will pay dividends both today (hungry, talented players generally make good special teamers) and lay a foundation for when replacing players. AND what do we want with the number 1 pick this year? Either Taylor or Winslow would fill a need and the consensus is that both will be available at our slot. Quite frankly, if we can drop a spot or two, and pick up another pick this year, I think that would be the best thing we could do. As for Gardner and Trotter, if we can trade em straight up for picks (at least a 3rd for Gardner and anything we can get for Trotter) - God bless'em. It just seems to me that the Skins tend to be a bit cavalier with their picks which (again, just to me) seems to be a bad long term plan. Okay, that's my two cents.

03-31-2004, 01:51 PM	#21
Ade Jimoh Fan Club Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 410	If we trade for the #1 overall - I hope to hell that we turn around and sell it off to the highest bidder - someone who's all lovey dovey for Manning or Fitzgerald. We can get what we need at #5.

03-31-2004, 02:03 PM	#23
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Saturday April 24th is the first round.

03-31-2004, 02:07 PM	#24
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Thanks GManc

what's wrong with gardner??

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