Falcons Cut Price - Are we interested?

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That's if he clears waivers, which he might not.

I'm pretty sure he'll clear waivers. If I'm not mistaken, he has some roster bonuses built into his contract for next year. While that may be attractive for a team (since they could cut him next year and avoid the bonuses), I'm sure he's resistant to the idea of playing out that deal without a renegotiation.

Though this will ultimately be Gibbs's call, I'm sure Gregg Williams has his ear about Price's practice habits and demeanor, if not his skills.

One of the reasons I think a Price signing will ultimately not happen is a quote of Price's from earlier this offseason. When he was asked about his lack of productivity and chemistry with his quarterback, his comment was (paraphrasing) "Look at the tape." Basically, he was saying he got open, and it was the QBs fault if he didn't get the ball.

My problems with this statement are numerous:

• What kind of teammate throws his QB under the bus like that?
• According to Stats Inc., you had a 5.26% droppped pass rate. Was that the QBs fault?
• In 2003, when Vick (the guy who's really at fault) was sidelined with an injury, your numbers weren't dramatically higher. You went from averaging 13.1 yds per catch to 12.8 yds per catch. Is Schaub the problem as well?

Bottom line is Price, though relatively healthy the past two years (listed as Doubtful once and Questionable four times), has 6 TDs and one 100 yard game in two years. That makes him a role player - he actually compares (and not favorably) to James Thrash in his last two years in Philadelphia (8 TDs, 1 100 yard game). As much as I love Thrash as a player, I'd drop him in a minute if he smack-talked our third string QB, much less the face of our franchise.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

While Peerless could be just fine in the role that many of us have envisioned Taylor Jacobs playing, I think I'd stick with what we have.

What confuses me is how we complain every year about fiscal irresponsibility and lack of stability and team chemistry. And yet here we are with the regular season just 10 days away and again we're talking about spending money to bring someone in at the last minute. Let's just let the players who have been with us all preseason grow.

I don't get it either.

I chalk it up to that 'Madden' mentality that was our MO for the first few years under Snyder.

Let's leave well enough alone. No need to jump on every free agent that hits the wire. Those days are over, thankfully.

[D'BOYZ]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

• According to Stats Inc., you had a 5.26% droppped pass rate. Was that the QBs fault?
• In 2003, when Vick (the guy who's really at fault) was sidelined with an injury, your numbers weren't dramatically higher. You went from averaging 13.1 yds per catch to 12.8 yds per catch. Is Schaub the problem as well?

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I'm curios about these statements the first 1 is droping 5 passes out of 100 high in the NFL I really don't know. Can you make a comparison with other receivers.

And on the second point I don't care so much as the yard per cach but to how many catches he had with Schaub and totalyards vs how much he had with Vick..... Because that's what he has said not that he dosen't get more yards per catch but that Vick didn't trew him the ball that much.

and if he got open with Schaub he got open with Vick he just didn't throw him the ball because lets face it even thought Vick is an electricfying player his an average QB at best has a lot of talent arm strength he has 0 accuracy and trust he quits to easy and runs he dosen't waith for the play to develop or does't make pases knowing than when the pass will arriave his receiver will be open so thats why I whant to know how he did with schaub .

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

While Peerless could be just fine in the role that many of us have envisioned Taylor Jacobs playing, I think I'd stick with what we have.

What confuses me is how we complain every year about fiscal irresponsibility and lack of stability and team chemistry. And yet here we are with the regular season just 10 days away and again we're talking about spending money to bring someone in at the last minute. Let's just let the players who have been with us all preseason grow.

Couldn't have said it better myself, so I won't try....

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

What confuses me is how we complain every year about fiscal irresponsibility and lack of stability and team chemistry. And yet here we are with the regular season just 10 days away and again we're talking about spending money to bring someone in at the last minute. Let's just let the players who have been with us all preseason grow.

So you are against improving the player talent of the team just so we can have good team chemistry? That would be fine if we had a talented playoff team, but we still have weakness' in some areas of our roster.
Exactly how is adding one talented player going hurt team chemistry?
A veteran NFL player like Price can come and play the next day. This is football not rocket science

[SmootSmack]

What I'm saying is inevitably when a big name player is released we shouldn't be so quick to jump all over that player. The Falcons are a talented playoff team, yet if you were to point out an area where they are weak it's probably at wide receiver. Yet Price was apparently not good enough for Atlanta to keep him.

And no, it's not rocket science, but Ramsey (and Brunell) has been working all offseason with new receivers Patten, Moss, and to a lesser extent Brown. There's no need, in my humble opinion, to bring someone else on board now.

Confucius say "Piling up on talented players does not a winning team always make"

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

While Peerless could be just fine in the role that many of us have envisioned Taylor Jacobs playing, I think I'd stick with what we have.

What confuses me is how we complain every year about fiscal irresponsibility and lack of stability and team chemistry. And yet here we are with the regular season just 10 days away and again we're talking about spending money to bring someone in at the last minute. Let's just let the players who have been with us all preseason grow.

I don't think we should sign Price. But, I do take issue with the team's fiscal irresponsibility. That irresponsibility is what led, in part, to our inability to re-sign guys like Pierce and Smoot and that led to some change in the roster and the loss of "core Redskins."

It also led to your name change.

[offiss]

Didn't want the guy when he was a free agent, don't want him now. I think he will winde up either back in buffalo, or in dallas, I think if we are to bring in another reciever Warrick should be the guy, I just felt coming out of college he was going to be a flat out star, obviously that didn't pan out, but in the right situation he might finally blossom, defiently worth a look see if he's willing.

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

I'm curious about these statements the first 1 is droping 5 passes out of 100 high in the NFL I really don't know. Can you make a comparison with other receivers.

And on the second point I don't care so much as the yard per cach but to how many catches he had with Schaub and totalyards vs how much he had with Vick..... Because that's what he has said not that he dosen't get more yards per catch but that Vick didn't trew him the ball that much.

and if he got open with Schaub he got open with Vick he just didn't throw him the ball because lets face it even thought Vick is an electricfying player his an average QB at best has a lot of talent arm strength he has 0 accuracy and trust he quits to easy and runs he dosen't waith for the play to develop or does't make pases knowing than when the pass will arriave his receiver will be open so thats why I whant to know how he did with schaub .

Fair enough. It's a misleading stat. To clear it up:

Out of 106 passes where Price was the target in 2004, he caught 45 passes and dropped 5 balls deemed "catchable". My understanding is that's a ball he got his hands on in front of his body. There are still 56 balls where either the pass was off target, or he wasn't in the right place.

In 2003, he had 141 passes thrown to him, and he caught 64. He had 8 "official" drops, meaning 69 balls were not catchable for one reason or another.

The percentage of drops to passes in area is 5.26%. However, the drops to catches ratio is 11.9%. Compare that to another recent "#2 switching to #1" in Mushin Muhammad. His first season as a lead receiver (last year) had a 6.7% ratio, and his two-year average is 7.5%.

As for Vick vs. Schaub - there is a point there. Price averaged 4.25 receptions per game with Schaub, versus 2.86 with Vick. Neither one of those numbers in Canton-material, but there is a drop-off. However, as a member of the Atlanta Falcons football organization, you have to be poigniantly aware that Mike Vick is the face of your franchise, and its most important member. Backhanded requests to start his less-than-capable backup will be looked upon with disfavor.

[Sociofan]

Price has had just one year with #1 receiver numbers--2002. Every other year of his career is comparable to Rod Gardner's numbers. Why would we WANT to sign him. I'm happy with what I've seen from Patten, Thrash, Brown and Jacobs. Any of them would make a fine #2 to Moss and we won't be in any more salary cap purgatory. Let our guys play. Worry about another receiver in the offseason.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

I don't think we should sign Price. But, I do take issue with the team's fiscal irresponsibility. That irresponsibility is what led, in part, to our inability to re-sign guys like Pierce and Smoot and that led to some change in the roster and the loss of "core Redskins."

It also led to your name change.

Thank you!

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

What I'm saying is inevitably when a big name player is released we shouldn't be so quick to jump all over that player. The Falcons are a talented playoff team, yet if you were to point out an area where they are weak it's probably at wide receiver. Yet Price was apparently not good enough for Atlanta to keep him.

And no, it's not rocket science, but Ramsey (and Brunell) has been working all offseason with new receivers Patten, Moss, and to a lesser extent Brown. There's no need, in my humble opinion, to bring someone else on board now.

Confucius say "Piling up on talented players does not a winning team always make"

I do not want the redskins to pick big name/expensive players. I never said that. I do want them to pick up talented bargain price players. We have no salary cap space to do so if one became available.

Alanta did not release Price because he in not a good receiver. They released him because they over paid him and they did not find Price worth the large amount of money due him. Signing Peerless Price at a much lower price would not be a bad pick up for him to be a #2 or #3 WR..

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Sociofan

Price has had just one year with #1 receiver numbers--2002. Every other year of his career is comparable to Rod Gardner's numbers. Why would we WANT to sign him. I'm happy with what I've seen from Patten, Thrash, Brown and Jacobs. Any of them would make a fine #2 to Moss and we won't be in any more salary cap purgatory. Let our guys play. Worry about another receiver in the offseason.

What have you seen from Jacobs that makes you happy? The other guys have shown their worth on the regular season playing field, Jacobs has not.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by Sociofan

Price has had just one year with #1 receiver numbers--2002. Every other year of his career is comparable to Rod Gardner's numbers. Why would we WANT to sign him. I'm happy with what I've seen from Patten, Thrash, Brown and Jacobs. Any of them would make a fine #2 to Moss and we won't be in any more salary cap purgatory. Let our guys play. Worry about another receiver in the offseason.

You got to see Jacobs play? WOW, what was it like? Was it in college, cause it certainly wasn't in the pros. I think we should give Jacobs a nickname, remember the movie "A Christmas Story" when the father gets that lamp that looks like a woman's leg in a fish net stocking. When he gets the box he says it must be from France because its marked "FRAGILE" (Frageeleee Jacobs). Nice.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

You got to see Jacobs play? WOW, what was it like? Was it in college, cause it certainly wasn't in the pros. I think we should give Jacobs a nickname, remember the movie "A Christmas Story" when the father gets that lamp that looks like a woman's leg in a fish net stocking. When he gets the box he says it must be from France because its marked "FRAGILE" (Frageeleee Jacobs). Nice.

Did you read on the WP that the redskins have anounced that Jacobs will miss another week and miss this final preseason game. He missed the entire training camp and preseason. I heard he hurt his toe when he tripped on his skirt at home.