Oh, Hell Naw! DAL beefs up LB corps

[la73hof]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Ah, I knew you could smell a Dallas conversation going on in here

As of a week from now, that's all you're going to have...

good to see you guys got McCune back on the PS

[That Guy]

thing is, some of those pickups (price, rivera, fujita, the draft picks) are actually going to help them :/

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by That Guy

thing is, some of those pickups (price, rivera, fujita, the draft picks) are actually going to help them :/

But is it possible that they are trying to assemble, very quickly, a team of FAs and picks that will make an immediate impact like we have in the past? A la, Bruce Smith, D.Sanders, and a host of others.

Or is this a totally different thing here??

[la73hof]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

But is it possible that they are trying to assemble, very quickly, a team of FAs and picks that will make an immediate impact like we have in the past? A la, Bruce Smith, D.Sanders, and a host of others.

Or is this a totally different thing here??

the latter:

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showth...t=33627&page=1

[BossHog]

Originally Posted by la73hof

the latter:

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showth...t=33627&page=1

No thanks for the link. I don't know how you do it. I have no interest in rival fan-sites.

[la73hof]

Originally Posted by BossHog

I don't know how you do it.

The reason for last seasons back slide was overestimating the talent on the roster and FA pick ups

Exit head of scouting Lacewell and enter Jeff Ireland

BP has seen enough of an undersized unit get exploited damn near week in and week out and went back to his roots...3-4 and size

Add a guy who obviously knows talent in Ireland (all of our draft picks made the roster..Beriault on IR) along with 2 UDFA revelations in Johnson and Thompson

We dont overpay anymore...we valuable our draft selections and use them wisely (especially this year)

Thats about it..

[la73hof]

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[12thMan]

Originally Posted by That Guy

thing is, some of those pickups (price, rivera, fujita, the draft picks) are actually going to help them :/

But Guy, beyond this season what can some of these guys add to Dallas?

Bldedsoe 13 yr. vet
Ferguson 9 yr. vet (banged up all preseason)
Rivera 10 yr. vet (same)
Price 7 year vet.

I'm just wondering if there is a small window here??

[D'BOYZ]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

But Guy, beyond this season what can some of these guys add to Dallas?

Bldedsoe 13 yr. vet
Ferguson 9 yr. vet (banged up all preseason)
Rivera 10 yr. vet (same)
Price 7 year vet.

I'm just wondering if there is a small window here??

Bledsoe 33 is sign to be the starter at least for 2 season wich at his age 33 is still a good age, some examples Trent Green is 35 and still performs at a great level, Brunnell also 35, Kerry collins will be 33 this year, Dilfer 33, Favre 36, Garcia 35, Warner 34. I'm not comparing talent just that all of this players are or could be starters in this league and are at least the same age that Bledsoe or older. He ain't the long term solution but a lot better than Testaverde and we didn't had a lot of option in free agency.

Ferguson (31)was brought to be the stuffing NT for teh 3-4 defense he still a force NYJ wanted to sign him back but could match Dallas offer he has been bangup the offseason but his back from those injuries and will play in week 1 he hasn't missed a game in the last 3 years and another comparison are Sam Adams a 12year player (32), Washington has 14 years (37). Ferguson will play if everything goes in place between 3-4 seasons.

Rivera is 33 and he is i nthe age where all Lineman are in top of his game he can play 5 more season he has been to the ProBowl the last couple of years he hasn't had major injuries untill the 1 he had the offseason but his recovered and back in the starting lineup he was brought not only for hsi playmaking abilities but to be a leader in the locker room and in the offense wich has lacking that.

Price is only 29 and he sign or will sign today a 1 year deal he's goign to be evaluated this season if he preformes well he will sign a longer deal he has at least 4 more years left in him.

All of this players where brought to perform and some of them are in their top of their game some at probowl level and they're borught also to be the core of a new group of developing players you can't just have rookies or players with less than 3 years of expirience in your team.

Also when you sign a FA you need to know if he will be able to perform for more then a year or the mayority of their contract Bledso sign a 4 year deal wich is really a 3 year deal, ferguson and rivera sign a 5 year contract if they play at top of their game for 3 years they where worth.

What you don't want to sign is NAME players who are at the last end of their carrer and won't help your team and also pay large amounts of signing bonus to this player because if they don't perform your cap will be hurt and you will have to drop good young players also.

That has been some of the problems Snyder has had with your team B.Smith, D.Sanders, Brunell to say some fiascos that come to mind. Those players where payed large amount of signing bonuses and didn't perform to the level they where paid.

The differense between Brunell and Bledso is tha the only cost us 4mill to bring in so if we drop him it won't hurt our cap as much as brunell will and he's your backup.

Not tryng to trash talk just explaining the difference in the signings thats all all of this are some what healthy signing if ferguson or rivera end up being bust that will hurt us next year they received a 9mill signing bonuses but this is based on the leve they have been playing the last couple of years and that they still and should perform at that leves for a few years.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

Bledsoe 33 is sign to be the starter at least for 2 season wich at his age 33 is still a good age, some examples Trent Green is 35 and still performs at a great level, Brunnell also 35, Kerry collins will be 33 this year, Dilfer 33, Favre 36, Garcia 35, Warner 34. I'm not comparing talent just that all of this players are or could be starters in this league and are at least the same age that Bledsoe or older. He ain't the long term solution but a lot better than Testaverde and we didn't had a lot of option in free agency.

Ferguson (31)was brought to be the stuffing NT for teh 3-4 defense he still a force NYJ wanted to sign him back but could match Dallas offer he has been bangup the offseason but his back from those injuries and will play in week 1 he hasn't missed a game in the last 3 years and another comparison are Sam Adams a 12year player (32), Washington has 14 years (37). Ferguson will play if everything goes in place between 3-4 seasons.

Rivera is 33 and he is i nthe age where all Lineman are in top of his game he can play 5 more season he has been to the ProBowl the last couple of years he hasn't had major injuries untill the 1 he had the offseason but his recovered and back in the starting lineup he was brought not only for hsi playmaking abilities but to be a leader in the locker room and in the offense wich has lacking that.

Price is only 29 and he sign or will sign today a 1 year deal he's goign to be evaluated this season if he preformes well he will sign a longer deal he has at least 4 more years left in him.

All of this players where brought to perform and some of them are in their top of their game some at probowl level and they're borught also to be the core of a new group of developing players you can't just have rookies or players with less than 3 years of expirience in your team.

Also when you sign a FA you need to know if he will be able to perform for more then a year or the mayority of their contract Bledso sign a 4 year deal wich is really a 3 year deal, ferguson and rivera sign a 5 year contract if they play at top of their game for 3 years they where worth.

What you don't want to sign is NAME players who are at the last end of their carrer and won't help your team and also pay large amounts of signing bonus to this player because if they don't perform your cap will be hurt and you will have to drop good young players also.

That has been some of the problems Snyder has had with your team B.Smith, D.Sanders, Brunell to say some fiascos that come to mind. Those players where payed large amount of signing bonuses and didn't perform to the level they where paid.

The differense between Brunell and Bledso is tha the only cost us 4mill to bring in so if we drop him it won't hurt our cap as much as brunell will and he's your backup.

Not tryng to trash talk just explaining the difference in the signings thats all all of this are some what healthy signing if ferguson or rivera end up being bust that will hurt us next year they received a 9mill signing bonuses but this is based on the leve they have been playing the last couple of years and that they still and should perform at that leves for a few years.

I think you may have slightly missed my intention here. Man how long did it take you to write all of that

The point I'm simply trying to make - especially with Bledsoe. He's taken a lot of hits and sacks. In fact, I think it was last year he tied for second most sacked in NFL history. Look it up. That's a lot of hits, my friend. And though he's 33 yrs old, in football years his body probably feels closer to 37-38. But no one can really answer that question better than Drew Bledsoe can.

Secondly, apart from the cap part of it - I was just stating that, again, in terms of age and time played in the NFL how many snaps does a Marco Rivera and Flozell Adams (who many in big D are not happy with), Ferguson have in them. They may come out have a fantastic season....but we'll see. Price is only 28, but at this point in his career is on the verge of being a journyman receiver?


Sept. 19 you better have your chin-straps on tight!!!

[D'BOYZ]

Thxs for the apreciation my fingers are bleeding but i msure they will heal lol. Actually Bledsoe had if im accurate 37 sacks last season and has 402 sacks troughout his carreer and average of 30.9 sacks per season wich is high but not retirement high. his highest was in '99 when he had 55 his lowest was 94 with 22 (full season) the record is hold by Carr with 76 sacks in 1 season wich is just painfull to say lol.

Bret Favre has an average of 27 in his career with 1 more full year wich aint that high that's 52 more sacks than drew in average troughout his carrer Carr has a 48 sack average per season OUCH his going to be in a wheel chair in 2 more season.

Now on the other subjects yeah they have played alot of downs but they are still at top of their game now their bone don't heel as fast as it used to but agai nthey where brought for 3 season aprox now we will have to waith and see is the are bust or great moves.

[BossHog]

Fujita wasn't even under most of you guy's radar until now. And that was the same situation when we signed Washington. You had no clue what a 'difference' this guy was going to make. I'm all for believing Washington is a better player than Fujita but, let's be realistic here. I don't like to go toe to toe, just to make a point of an opinion. The best defensive player on our squad last year was Griffin and he should've been the guy going to the pro bowl since the 'pro bowl voters' allowed us only one.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by BossHog

Fujita wasn't even under most of you guy's radar until now. And that was the same situation when we signed Washington. You had no clue what a 'difference' this guy was going to make. I'm all for believing Washington is a better player than Fujita but, let's be realistic here. I don't like to go toe to toe, just to make a point of an opinion. The best defensive player on our squad last year was Griffin and he should've been the guy going to the pro bowl since the 'pro bowl voters' allowed us only one.

I totally agree, griffin was by far our #1 defensive player. springs may have been better too... I definately think fujita is going to help them too, there's no denying that he's good. I just don't think he'll make as big a difference as washignton over armstead or trotter.

[BossHog]

'HOF maybe I didn't make myself clear. Other than a DAL fan, who's interested in reading that article/post? I don't know why you're interested enough in WSH to come onto this site.

[la73hof]

Originally Posted by BossHog

Maybe I didn't make myself clear. Other than DAL fans, who's interested in reading that article/post?

I fixed it for you

Im sure you will have an increase in Cowboys traffic starting next week

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