Time to bench Brunell? (Mega Man Merge)

Chief X_Phackter · 09-18-2006, 06:12 PM

I have to say that I am just as disappointed as everyone else with the play of our offense. Actually both offense and defense, although there aren't many defenses around that can constantly go out there 3 & out after 3 & out and expect to shut an offense down every time. The only thing we did good this week was special teams.

I just want to throw this out there, because it's something I've been thinking about. As much as I dislike "what if" scenario's. What if we didn't go on that tear at the end of last season and were out of the playoff picture with three or so games left. Gibbs would have probably put JC in there right? I almost wish that is what happened, although it was fun to get back to the playoffs again. I just can't help but think that if JC got about three regular season games in last year (and looked decent like he is expected to eventually) if he wouldn't be the guy in there right now. He could have began the season in a battle for the starting job instead of a battle for the number two, and may have won. Especially considering it would only be his second NFL offense to learn as opposed to Mark Brunell's 5th or whatever.

Just a hypothetical. I believe that we have to stick with Brunell now that we started with him, at least for a few more games to make sure it's not just him.

TheMalcolmConnection · 09-18-2006, 03:41 PM

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hail_2_da_skins · 09-18-2006, 03:41 PM

It's time to BENCH BRUNNEL.

He has been the same worthless quarterback since he came to the Redskins. His best days are behind him. He has had a couple of good days since he has been a Redskin, but mostly a big disappointment.

I am so tired of seeing 5 yard passes in the flat. That's all he throws. He will not or cannot throw the ball downfield. If you pan the field, receivers are getting open deep, but Brunnel cannot or will not throw the ball to them.

His dropbacks are too deep and screws up the blocking schemes. The outside rush is able to get around the corner and get to him. If he had the proper dropback depth, he could step up into the pocket and deliver the pass. I think the reason he drops back so deep is he is a midget for a quarterback, barely over 6 feet tall.

There is nothing to lose by going to Jason Campbell, only everything to gain. He has the size, the arm and quickness to succeed. All he lacks is the experience. Give it to him...NOW!!!!!!

The Houston Texan game is the perfect game to start Campbell. This is a good matchup to allow him to gain some experience and develop some confidence for the up and coming tough games.

GIT 'R DONE

warriorzpath · 09-18-2006, 04:04 PM

Actually, I would call the Dallas game last year gutsy. But this year... not so much.

TheMalcolmConnection · 09-18-2006, 04:07 PM

Yup, it's like everyone is so afraid to put in JC. Is it any coicidence that he has the initials of ANOTHER type of Savior? I think not.

Seriously though, the only way he'll learn is by getting game experience.

DaveyFoSho · 09-18-2006, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Yup, it's like everyone is so afraid to put in JC. Is it any coicidence that he has the initials of ANOTHER type of Savior? I think not.

Seriously though, the only way he'll learn is by getting game experience.

lol..basically he would probably give up 2-3 turnovers a game....and maybe 1 horrible like really bad game...but does anyone disagree when i say that with him at QB they would put up far more points??? take the bad with the good...he is our future...Brunell is finished!

Twilbert07 · 09-18-2006, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveyFoSho

lol..basically he would probably give up 2-3 turnovers a game....and maybe 1 horrible like really bad game...but does anyone disagree when i say that with him at QB they would put up far more points??? take the bad with the good...he is our future...Brunell is finished!

Amen. We have to make the switch at some point. And at least with Campbell the games might be a little more entertaining. Brunell is as boring and bland as can be - and all he's "managing" are losses.

SmootSmack · 09-18-2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Yup, it's like everyone is so afraid to put in JC. Is it any coicidence that he has the initials of ANOTHER type of Savior? I think not.

Seriously though, the only way he'll learn is by getting game experience.

I mean we all like Joe Crisp, but Savior? That's a bit of a reach don't you think?

What do you think the over/under will be on how many "Campbell Sucks. What a waste of a pick" thread we'll see when Campbell has his first couple of bad games?

But like I said why not put him in, it'd be nice to see some Blame/Bench Campbell threads for a change

12thMan · 09-18-2006, 04:22 PM

I'm telling you now, if we think we're going to March back down to Texas and use the Texans as our way to wiggle back into the season, we had better watch out.

paulskinsfan · 09-18-2006, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'm telling you now, if we think we're going to March back down to Texas and use the Texans as our way to wiggle back into the season, we had better watch out.

Agreed. I don't think we've hit bottom yet.....get your trash cans and vomit buckets ready, its gonna be a bumpy ride.

Beemnseven · 09-18-2006, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'm telling you now, if we think we're going to March back down to Texas and use the Texans as our way to wiggle back into the season, we had better watch out.

No doubt. Right now, the Texans and their fans are thinking that the Redskins can offer them a chance at a turnaround.

LMsexyAO · 09-18-2006, 04:46 PM

To be honest, I'm a little worried about Houston. I never would have said this before but the Texans can actually score points and we only have one touchdown in the season so far. I still think we shouldn't have any real difficulty winning, but still. It probably wont be a cakewalk and I wouldn't be surprised if it comes down to the wire. Don't expect a repeat of the 49ers game last year.

Hopefully I'm way off.

steveo395 · 09-18-2006, 04:58 PM

If Brunell doesn't dominate the Texans next week, he sucks. He looks like he did in 2004. Brunell is afraid to stand in the pocket. There were plenty of times that he could have stayed in the pocket and not have gotten sacked, but he tried to roll out and he got sacked. He is afraid to do anything. How much worse could Campbell really do? He might have a bad game or two, but so will Brunell. At least Campbell can stand in the pocket and he is accurate.

724Skinsfan · 09-18-2006, 05:32 PM

Raise your hand if you believe Jason Campbell can throw for more than 45 yards in a game? There is a problem with Brunell and I'm done making excuses for him. He was a good QB and a terrific guy but he looks finished. As one of my friends pointed out: How many NFL championship trophies does he have? Answer: The same amount as Jason Campbell.
For all of those that say if we start JC then we are throwing away the season, I say a lot of Rams, Patriots and Steelers fans thought the same thing in recent times when their #1 guy went down. I'm not saying Campbell is going to be the next Brady or Big Ben (or even Warner, for that matter) but none of these guys had the full confidence of their coaching staff before their respective seasons started either.
If Brunell starts against the Texans, which I'm sure he will, I figure he'll win. Then we are looking at a 1-4 record because the Giants and Jaguars Defenses are no joke. I'd rather lose with the future QB than with someone can't get it done.

We simply need a stronger-armed QB with better mobility.

I love the Redskins and so do all of you!

Monkeydad · 09-18-2006, 04:49 PM

I can't wait to pull this thread back up in 2 months when we're kicking butt every week WITH Brunell.

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09-18-2006, 03:41 PM	#2
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge) The MovieWavs Page - Old_School: composure.mp3 This is how I feel. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

09-18-2006, 03:41 PM	#3
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 70 Posts: 868	Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge) It's time to BENCH BRUNNEL. He has been the same worthless quarterback since he came to the Redskins. His best days are behind him. He has had a couple of good days since he has been a Redskin, but mostly a big disappointment. I am so tired of seeing 5 yard passes in the flat. That's all he throws. He will not or cannot throw the ball downfield. If you pan the field, receivers are getting open deep, but Brunnel cannot or will not throw the ball to them. His dropbacks are too deep and screws up the blocking schemes. The outside rush is able to get around the corner and get to him. If he had the proper dropback depth, he could step up into the pocket and deliver the pass. I think the reason he drops back so deep is he is a midget for a quarterback, barely over 6 feet tall. There is nothing to lose by going to Jason Campbell, only everything to gain. He has the size, the arm and quickness to succeed. All he lacks is the experience. Give it to him...NOW!!!!!! The Houston Texan game is the perfect game to start Campbell. This is a good matchup to allow him to gain some experience and develop some confidence for the up and coming tough games. GIT 'R DONE __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

09-18-2006, 04:04 PM	#4
warriorzpath Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,880	Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge) Actually, I would call the Dallas game last year gutsy. But this year... not so much.

09-18-2006, 04:07 PM	#5
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge) Yup, it's like everyone is so afraid to put in JC. Is it any coicidence that he has the initials of ANOTHER type of Savior? I think not. Seriously though, the only way he'll learn is by getting game experience. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

09-18-2006, 06:12 PM	#1
Chief X_Phackter Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 5,644	Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge) I have to say that I am just as disappointed as everyone else with the play of our offense. Actually both offense and defense, although there aren't many defenses around that can constantly go out there 3 & out after 3 & out and expect to shut an offense down every time. The only thing we did good this week was special teams. I just want to throw this out there, because it's something I've been thinking about. As much as I dislike "what if" scenario's. What if we didn't go on that tear at the end of last season and were out of the playoff picture with three or so games left. Gibbs would have probably put JC in there right? I almost wish that is what happened, although it was fun to get back to the playoffs again. I just can't help but think that if JC got about three regular season games in last year (and looked decent like he is expected to eventually) if he wouldn't be the guy in there right now. He could have began the season in a battle for the starting job instead of a battle for the number two, and may have won. Especially considering it would only be his second NFL offense to learn as opposed to Mark Brunell's 5th or whatever. Just a hypothetical. I believe that we have to stick with Brunell now that we started with him, at least for a few more games to make sure it's not just him.

09-18-2006, 04:22 PM	#9
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge) I'm telling you now, if we think we're going to March back down to Texas and use the Texans as our way to wiggle back into the season, we had better watch out.

09-18-2006, 04:46 PM	#12
LMsexyAO Impact Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 684	Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge) To be honest, I'm a little worried about Houston. I never would have said this before but the Texans can actually score points and we only have one touchdown in the season so far. I still think we shouldn't have any real difficulty winning, but still. It probably wont be a cakewalk and I wouldn't be surprised if it comes down to the wire. Don't expect a repeat of the 49ers game last year. Hopefully I'm way off.

09-18-2006, 04:58 PM	#13
steveo395 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,674	Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge) If Brunell doesn't dominate the Texans next week, he sucks. He looks like he did in 2004. Brunell is afraid to stand in the pocket. There were plenty of times that he could have stayed in the pocket and not have gotten sacked, but he tried to roll out and he got sacked. He is afraid to do anything. How much worse could Campbell really do? He might have a bad game or two, but so will Brunell. At least Campbell can stand in the pocket and he is accurate. __________________

09-18-2006, 05:32 PM	#14
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge) Raise your hand if you believe Jason Campbell can throw for more than 45 yards in a game? There is a problem with Brunell and I'm done making excuses for him. He was a good QB and a terrific guy but he looks finished. As one of my friends pointed out: How many NFL championship trophies does he have? Answer: The same amount as Jason Campbell. For all of those that say if we start JC then we are throwing away the season, I say a lot of Rams, Patriots and Steelers fans thought the same thing in recent times when their #1 guy went down. I'm not saying Campbell is going to be the next Brady or Big Ben (or even Warner, for that matter) but none of these guys had the full confidence of their coaching staff before their respective seasons started either. If Brunell starts against the Texans, which I'm sure he will, I figure he'll win. Then we are looking at a 1-4 record because the Giants and Jaguars Defenses are no joke. I'd rather lose with the future QB than with someone can't get it done. We simply need a stronger-armed QB with better mobility. I love the Redskins and so do all of you! __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

09-18-2006, 04:49 PM	#15
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 47 Posts: 17,460	Re: Time to bench Brunell? (Mega-merge) I can't wait to pull this thread back up in 2 months when we're kicking butt every week WITH Brunell.

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