Arizona's New Immigration Law

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Oh you're very welcome. Idiocy such as yours is truly entertaining to watch. Enjoy ignorance. It suits you well.

Have a wonderfully simplistic day! Just remember, you're the only one who really knows anything!!

Insulting posts on message board. Truly rich.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Insulting posts on message board. Truly rich.

I'm terribly sorry if you found it insulting. I meant it with all kindness. Since your posts are never insulting to anyone and are always so respectful to other points of view, I did not think you would impute any insulting intent into my remark. Clearly, I erred and I apologize for your failure to comprehend my intent.

Actually, I look forward to your posts and your take on the world. Your statements and point of view are incredibly entertaining to any one who has a working knowledge of history, finance and/or current events. I am constantly amazed and incredibly amused at how deeply you hold convictions so divorced from reality. Kudos to you!!

[dmek25]

was that a nice way to call him a dumbass?

[JoeRedskin]

No. Not at all. His posts truly do bring me incredilble joy and raise my self esteem. His comments, point of view and knowlege base reaffirm and strengthen my self-confidence. Truly, he is a blessing.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

No. Not at all. His posts truly do bring me incredilble joy and raise my self esteem. His comments, point of view and knowlege base reaffirm and strengthen my self-confidence. Truly, he is a blessing.

Wow, Joe Redskins claiming victory. Another mission accomplished moment.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

So what's your point?

My point is that Americans seem to care more about this "holiday" (an excuse to drink coronas and margaritas) than Mexicans do. Also, I don't care what day of the year it is, if an American in the USA wants to wear a tshirt of the American flag, he/she should be allowed to do so. Period.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Oh man. That's scary. US school teachers sending kids home for wearing the American Flag on a T-shirt? Fail, fail, fail.

I've heard that no Mexicans outside the town of Puebla even celebrate Cinco De Mayo. Apparently the "holiday" celebrates when that particular town fought off the French in 1862. Mexico was ultimately unable to stop the European "intervention."

Yeah california is weird. Years back all the hispanic school going kids did a sit out on cesar chavez day to protest against the immigration laws. As you can guess, it turned into an "anybody who opposses open immigration is a racist" stuff.

If you had an american flag and not a mexican flag, you were a racist.

I dont get it, hold a rally in america trying to bring spotlight to the immigration issue but instead of including the american flag in america they were waiving their mexican flag.

The border is 15 miles down the road, if you cant bring yourself to waive an american flag, dont waive your mexican flag in my face expecting me to respect it. In CA and im sure AZ, alot of immigrants feel like they are entitled to more than we the average citizen receive. Really it is the younger generation of hispanics in that part of our country that have unrealistic yet unwavering demands.

My judge used to say that immigrants must embrace and become a working beneficial part of society and not try and form their own little communities exclusive to immigrants while shunning the outside world.

In san diego, there a neighborhoods were stores have signs on the front saying "Yes, we speak american". lol

all this is just my opinion based on my experiences. other people could have the exact same experiences and walk away with a different impression. ive been down to mexico a ton of times, great place if your in the right places.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by GMScud

My point is that Americans seem to care more about this "holiday" (an excuse to drink coronas and margaritas) than Mexicans do. Also, I don't care what day of the year it is, if an American in the USA wants to wear a tshirt of the American flag, he/she should be allowed to do so. Period.

apparently the school district and I agree with you. i wonder what nationality/race the principal is or whoever made the decision to threaten suspension if they didnt remove their american shirts and bandanaa.

and this goes to my post above regarding the younger generation of hispanics in CA (and I assume AZ). literally, if you were (for my homie FD)an american shirt on any of their holidays, they view that as dissent from their demands and take it as a provocation to violence or hatred or intolerance.

just not a good way to try and peacefully assimilate both our cultures if any given mexican holiday only mexican flags can be waived or worn in the US. these teenage hispanic kids are going malcolm x when they should be going MLK.

when you hold a cesar chavez or cinco de mayo festival in america, maybe include both national flags and not demand only the mexican flag gets represented.

[joethiesmanfan]

I feel like they should be able to wear the Amercian flag, but not the confederate flag (seeing as they wer fighting against america).

[over the mountain]

nothing wrong with southern pride imo. now i wouldnt want a state or city repping it on their gov't flag but as a bumper sicker or truck decal? whatever.

but that confederate flag does stir up fright, anger and bad thoughts among black people. my girl when she sees one on a truck or something, well lets just say she starts muttering some not so nice words.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Wow, Joe Redskins claiming victory. Another mission accomplished moment.

You misunderstand jtf, you win. You always win - that's the beauty of your posts. Divorced from any need for logic or the need to hold yourself to the same standard you impose upon others, you are able to claim or imply victory in everything you post. Brilliant!!

Your response is another perfect example of your death defying ability to impose a meaning onto a statement that is contrary to the actual words of the statement being analyzed - somehow, my statement that I enjoy your posts is a "claim of victory". I mean, all sarcasm aside, that is just a stunning leap! Bravo! Lesser men would question themselves for such a jump in logic but not you!!

But wait, your real genius is still to come!!: "Another mission accomplished moment". As someone who works with and struggles over the use of words, I truly do appreciate the subtlety and nuance of the use of those four words in your response. F'ing poetry! I mean that. I mean, after taking a leap unsupported by the original text's actual content, you support your own point with a generic "Trump Card" phrase. In doing so, you sweep my thoughts, analysis and rational away, pigeonhole my belief system, and imply that your point is proven - (and here's stunning, amazing, truly truly poetic part) - ALL WITHOUT ANY NEED FOR LOGIC OR RATIONAL THOUGHT ON YOUR PART!!!!

Truly, you are the superior being!

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

I feel like they should be able to wear the Amercian flag, but not the confederate flag (seeing as they wer fighting against america).

you know, now that i think about it, the US flag incident on cinco de mayo is an intersting parallel to what happended down in SC when students wore confederate flag tshirts when that whole brew haha pooped up over removing the confederate part of their flag.

what happened? did the students have to remove their confederate tshirts? i forget.

i also can see teh hispanics students side with regards to teh US shirts and bandanas. my gut tells me the guys who wore a us flag bandanas probably only wore those on that day with the purpose of quietly stating they dont agree with open immigration which may (lets face it were talkign about HS kids) provoke some words which could lead to voilence.

with that said, im sure the hispanic portion of the school wasnt just celebrating cinco de mayo but using it as a platform to demand open immigration, which is what they seemingly do with any mexican holiday.

maybe just celebrate the holiday and leave the immigration stuff for another day. if you want to include immigration into your holidays, dont get all butt hurt when people with opposing views quietly and peacefully dissent.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

I feel like they should be able to wear the Amercian flag, but not the confederate flag (seeing as they wer fighting against america).

Freedom of speech where is the AHOL (forgot the letters). They tend to come out when its anything againts the flag but never for. I think I will have the American Flag for the name of my boat.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

I feel like they should be able to wear the Amercian flag, but not the confederate flag (seeing as they wer fighting against america).

Ahh, so you support the government's restriction of free speech when the speech being restricted is supportive of those who have opposed or fought against "america".

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

You misunderstand jtf, you win. You always win - that's the beauty of your posts. Divorced from any need for logic or the need to hold yourself to the same standard you impose upon others, you are able to claim or imply victory in everything you post. Brilliant!!

Your response is another perfect example of your death defying ability to impose a meaning onto a statement that is contrary to the actual words of the statement being analyzed - somehow, my statement that I enjoy your posts is a "claim of victory". I mean, all sarcasm aside, that is just a stunning leap! Bravo! Lesser men would question themselves for such a jump in logic but not you!!

But wait, your real genius is still to come!!: "Another mission accomplished moment". As someone who works with and struggles over the use of words, I truly do appreciate the subtlety and nuance of the use of those four words in your response. F'ing poetry! I mean that. I mean, after taking a leap unsupported by the original text's actual content, you support your own point with a generic "Trump Card" phrase. In doing so, you sweep my thoughts, analysis and rational away, pigeonhole my belief system, and imply that your point is proven - (and here's stunning, amazing, truly truly poetic part) - ALL WITHOUT ANY NEED FOR LOGIC OR RATIONAL THOUGHT ON YOUR PART!!!!

Truly, you are the superior being!

WOW! Never have I seen someone's panties so bunched on a internet blog like this! Great job JTF that is some real talent.

JoeRedskin step back from the computer take a deep breath, heck go outside and enjoy the day. Your ass has been hand to you.