Haynesworth fails conditioning test

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Just got my answer:
RT @Rich_Campbell I'm hearing that Albert Haynesworth did not run this morning. Apparently he's resting.

I think this is a good choice. After military PT tests there was a day to recuperate for your body, and in the football season, the day after the game is usually a recuperate type day.

I'm not sure what the latest wisdom is on what an athlete should do the 'day after' an event, because it's been a long time since I've trained for anything. But I'm under the impression from talking to people that its generally not a good idea to do nothing the day after a game, race, etc. unless you just ran a marathon. I've heard the term "active rest" mentioned a lot in recent years, the idea being that you jog, bike or run lightly to get the lactic acid out of your system.

Of course we don't know what "rest" means in this case, but it does sound like AH might be gettin over. He could be this year's Portis, I'm glad Shanny has stuck to his guns so far.

[SirClintonPortis]

It would be odd for a guy who ran the shuttle three times earlier in the week out of his own accord to suddenly just refuse to do it a few days later. The "bag of blubber" image is still in people's minds, no matter how wrong about it they could be.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by 30gut

The first shuttle run is the easy part its the second one after the short break that's taxing.
Its not that hard to do but if you haven't done it before you'll make it harder on yourself because you'll go too fast or too slow in some portions you need a good steady pace.

-No worries Al will get it, i think Shanahan is effing with him a little.
I bet dollars to donuts that if all the DL & OL were doing it would under the same strict adherence to the time hacks as demanded by Shanahan Albert wouldn't be the only one person held out.

Correct me if i'm wrong but didn't Smoot, Davis, Thomas and Kelly all fail the conditioning test either last year or the year prior?

I think you make an excellent point here. I saw an article by Tedi Bruschi of the Patriots who said that he would practice in the offseason for a similar test that the Pats gave each of their players at the start of Training Camp. He said he felt that he needed to practice for the test because he needed to get his pace right and to refine his technique. It seems that it's not just a matter of conditioning but that AH probably needs to practice for the test a little to get his pace and technique down.

Is Shanahan messing with him a little about the test? Probably. But Shanahan is so rules-based and exacting that I doubt that Shanny will relent any time soon and cut AH some slack if AH keeps failing the test.

I hope that AH passes the test soon so this doesn't become another issue between him and Shanahan. I think he will. At his point, after two failures to pass the test, I'd like to think that AH has too much pride as an athlete to let the test beat him.

BTW, having Haynesworth start out camp as a 2nd Teamer is a pure revenge move by Shanahan. After all, Trent Williams, a rookie who didn't know a thing about playing pro football, much les Shanahan's offense, practiced with the 1st Team on day one of his NFL career.

Don't misunderstand me; I'm not shifting over to Haynesworth's side. I still think that he could have compromised with Shanahan and acted like a better teammate during the offseason. But I also like to think that I'm fair-minded enough to call bullshit on Shanahan, as well, when his actions start to look like they may be personal rather than professional. To be clear, Shanahan demoting Haynesworth to 2nd Team was personal and it is bullshit.

[skinsfaninok]

This is starting to get ridiculous

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

It would be odd for a guy who ran the shuttle three times earlier in the week out of his own accord to suddenly just refuse to do it a few days later. The "bag of blubber" image is still in people's minds, no matter how wrong about it they could be.

My comments had nothing to do with AH being lazy.

If AH feels that Shanny is just f*&^ing with him, AH may just childishly refuse.

And if AH really wants a trade, he may childishly refuse.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I think you make an excellent point here. I saw an article by Tedi Bruschi of the Patriots who said that he would practice in the offseason for a similar test that the Pats gave each of their players at the start of Training Camp. He said he felt that he needed to practice for the test because he needed to get his pace right and to refine his technique. It seems that it's not just a matter of conditioning but that AH probably needs to practice for the test a little to get his pace and technique down.

Is Shanahan messing with him a little about the test? Probably. But Shanahan is so rules-based and exacting that I doubt that Shanny will relent any time soon and cut AH some slack if AH keeps failing the test.

I hope that AH passes the test soon so this doesn't become another issue between him and Shanahan. I think he will. At his point, after two failures to pass the test, I'd like to think that AH has too much pride as an athlete to let the test beat him.

BTW, having Haynesworth start out camp as a 2nd Teamer is a pure revenge move by Shanahan. After all, Trent Williams, a rookie who didn't know a thing about playing pro football, much les Shanahan's offense, practiced with the 1st Team on day one of his NFL career.

Don't misunderstand me; I'm not shifting over to Haynesworth's side. I still think that he could have compromised with Shanahan and acted like a better teammate during the offseason. But I also like to think that I'm fair-minded enough to call bullshit on Shanahan, as well, when his actions start to look like they may be personal rather than professional. To be clear, Shanahan demoting Haynesworth to 2nd Team was personal and it is bullshit.

Difference is Trent was there for all the off-season work.

I don't have a problem with AH having to earn his spot back after the BS he put the team through all of the off-season. What kind of message would it send to the team if you skip all the off-season work, ask for a trade, and on day one of camp all is forgotten and you're lining up with the starters?

[MTK]

A rest day at this point makes sense. I really don't think AH is pushing back.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Difference is Trent was there for all the off-season work.

I don't have a problem with AH having to earn his spot back after the BS he put the team through all of the off-season. What kind of message would it send to the team if you skip all the off-season work, ask for a trade, and on day one of camp all is forgotten and you're lining up with the starters?

Trent was 1st Team the day he walked on the practice field for the first time ever, and not after he did all of the off-season work. So, he did not have to earn it.

Come on, Matty, you know it's ridiculous to have AH work on the 2nd Team. This isn't High School. Everyone knows who the starter is - Albert. So, the Skins have already paid him $32M to play behind Golston? Sure.

OK, I'll concede that it may give the appearance of fairness but it's only for the sake of appearances.

[dblanch66]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Trent was 1st Team the day he walked on the practice field for the first time ever, and not after he did all of the off-season work. So, he did not have to earn it.

Come on, Matty, you know it's ridiculous to have AH work on the 2nd Team. This isn't High School. Everyone knows who the starter is - Albert. So, the Skins have already paid him $32M to play behind Golston? Sure.

OK, I'll concede that it may give the appearance of fairness but it's only for the sake of appearances.

Don't know about that. Shanahan has a reputation for being kind of a hard ass. A lot of players resented him in Oakland due to his drill instructor mentality. He tempered that quite a bit in Denver but you can't change the nature of a lion. If fat baby makes it back to starting, he will definitely have to earn it. There is no mind game here. This is Mike's m. o.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Lotus

My comments had nothing to do with AH being lazy.

If AH feels that Shanny is just f*&^ing with him, AH may just childishly refuse.

And if AH really wants a trade, he may childishly refuse.

Redskins.com (RedskinsDotCom) on Twitter
Albert Haynesworth has swelling in his knee, so he did not take conditioning test on Saturday. Uncertain if Haynesworth will take test Sun.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

A rest day at this point makes sense. I really don't think AH is pushing back.

??? Makes sense? All he has to do is a few 300 yard gassers. If you're in any kind of shape whatsoever, that's not really all that hard to do. We used to run 10 100 yard gassers at the end of every practice in high school. This dude is a pro-athlete. Plus, how are his shuttle runs any more taxing than the full practices every other player has had the past few days? And they're all on the field today.

Haynesworth is a me-first, petulant little child, and I think he's definitely pushing back. With regard to the conditioning test stuff, he's already been quoted as saying "this is BS," and "I'm tired of this shit." Also, Mike Shanahan is stubborn to a fault. Neither parties are winning anything at this point.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Redskins.com (RedskinsDotCom) on Twitter
Albert Haynesworth has swelling in his knee, so he did not take conditioning test on Saturday. Uncertain if Haynesworth will take test Sun.

Oh, well then he's not pushing back if that's the case. Or he could be making it up. He's not exactly tough when it comes to bumps and bruises. Pushing back or swollen knee, it's bad either way.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Redskins.com (RedskinsDotCom) on Twitter
Albert Haynesworth has swelling in his knee, so he did not take conditioning test on Saturday. Uncertain if Haynesworth will take test Sun.

dude is already hurt from running gassers. what a joke.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GMScud

??? Makes sense? All he has to do is a few 300 yard gassers. If you're in any kind of shape whatsoever, that's not really all that hard to do. We used to run 10 100 yard gassers at the end of every practice in high school. This dude is a pro-athlete. Plus, how are his shuttle runs any more taxing than the full practices every other player has had the past few days? And they're all on the field today.

Haynesworth is a me-first, petulant little child, and I think he's definitely pushing back. With regard to the conditioning test stuff, he's already been quoted as saying "this is BS," and "I'm tired of this shit." Also, Mike Shanahan is stubborn to a fault. Neither parties are winning anything at this point.

Most players seem to agree the conditioning test is tough. Fair but tough. I really haven't seen anyone say that it's easy, especially for a guy his size.

washingtonpost.com

[MTK]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Trent was 1st Team the day he walked on the practice field for the first time ever, and not after he did all of the off-season work. So, he did not have to earn it.

Come on, Matty, you know it's ridiculous to have AH work on the 2nd Team. This isn't High School. Everyone knows who the starter is - Albert. So, the Skins have already paid him $32M to play behind Golston? Sure.

OK, I'll concede that it may give the appearance of fairness but it's only for the sake of appearances.

I really don't think it's ridiculous at all.

What's ridiculous is the circus sideshow that AH was all off-season. Again, after all that you would just hand him his job back on day 1? Of course he's going to earn it back, but the point is you just don't hand the guy anything after the shit he pulled all off-season.