Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread

[dmek25]

In June 2006, he announced a plan to give away his fortune to charity, with 83% of it going to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.[104] He pledged about the equivalent of 10 million Berkshire Hathaway Class B shares to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (worth approximately US$30.7 billion as of June 23, 2006),[105] making it the largest charitable donation in history, and Buffett one of the leaders of philanthrocapitalism.[106] The foundation will receive 5% of the total donation on an annualised basis each July, beginning in 2006. (Significantly, however, the pledge is conditional upon the foundation's giving away each year, beginning in 2009, an amount that is at least equal to the value of the entire previous year's gift from Buffett, in addition to 5% of the foundation's net assets.) Buffett also will join the board of directors of the Gates Foundation, although he does not plan to be actively involved in the foundation's investments.[107][108]
probably can call him lots of things. but cheap ass isnt one of them

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dmek25

In June 2006, he announced a plan to give away his fortune to charity, with 83% of it going to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.[104] He pledged about the equivalent of 10 million Berkshire Hathaway Class B shares to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (worth approximately US$30.7 billion as of June 23, 2006),[105] making it the largest charitable donation in history, and Buffett one of the leaders of philanthrocapitalism.[106] The foundation will receive 5% of the total donation on an annualised basis each July, beginning in 2006. (Significantly, however, the pledge is conditional upon the foundation's giving away each year, beginning in 2009, an amount that is at least equal to the value of the entire previous year's gift from Buffett, in addition to 5% of the foundation's net assets.) Buffett also will join the board of directors of the Gates Foundation, although he does not plan to be actively involved in the foundation's investments.[107][108]
probably can call him lots of things. but cheap ass isnt one of them

He is just doing that for the tax write off.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by firstdown

He is just doing that for the tax write off.

yeah of course he is

[SmootSmack]

Cain's got Hank Williams Jr's vote! Not sure his 9 9 9 plan will fly though.

White House is preparing as if it will be Romney though

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

White House is preparing as if it will be Romney though

Smart move, with the Christie endorsement I'd be surprised if he isn't the nominee.

[SmootSmack]

Huntsman of course has foreign policy experience, but alas I think his campaign is an extremely uphill battle

[12thMan]

Here you go young fella. National Security is one of the things no one cares about it until something happens. You know, like a bombing or a potential threat. The WH has been keeping score and will make sure that Repubs will not own this issue.

Obama doubled down in Afghanistan and keeping his promise to bring the rest of the Iraq troops home by year's end. I'll believe it when it happens. Romney could make some desperate and wildly inaccurate statement about President Obama being weak on defense, but it won't stick. Not even a little.

Killings boost Obama's national security credentials – USATODAY.com

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Here you go young fella. National Security is one of the things no one cares about it until something happens. You know, like a bombing or a potential threat. The WH has been keeping score and will make sure that Repubs will not own this issue.

Folks like us that follow things understand what's going on and to Obama's credit he's done some good things on National Security.....some not so good too. At the end of the day the Rs will point to defense cuts, Obama simply reaping the benefits (the al-Qaeda kills) of what the Bush Admin started, and mention that he had no foreign policy experience when he came in. I don't see NS being an issue that helps Obama.

In Nov. 2012, "It's the economy stupid", and 39% approval numbers a year out from re-election ain't good.

Killings boost Obama's national security credentials – USATODAY.com

That poll was done right after Bin Laden was killed....c'mon man.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Folks like us that follow things understand what's going on and to Obama's credit he's done some good things on National Security.....some not so good too. At the end of the day the Rs will point to defense cuts, Obama simply reaping the benefits (the al-Qaeda kills) of what the Bush Admin started, and mention that he had no foreign policy experience when he came in. I don't see NS being an issue that helps Obama.

In Nov. 2012, "It's the economy stupid", and 39% approval numbers a year out from re-election ain't good.

That poll was done right after Bin Laden was killed....c'mon man.

Yeah that's a tough sell for Rs, that Obama's reaping the benefits of Bush when he's doubled Bush's success in 3 years and put a hole in Bin Laden's head. In terms of defense cuts, Robert Gates proposed $78 Billion in cuts and he's Bush's appointee. Besides most Americans understand that our defense budget is unsustainable and has been a drag on our economy. The majority of Americans want to end these costly wars like yesterday.

Mitt Romney proposing an increase in defense spending at a time when the middle class has been squeezed like never before, income disparity is the highest it's been in 30 years, and we lack investment in education and energy, I think that's a debate Obama is happy to have Romney.

Robert Gates proposes $78 billion US defence cuts - Telegraph

Obama Said to Seek $400 Billion Defense Cut Through Fiscal 2023 - Bloomberg

[saden1]

Few things:

1. If you turn 999 upside down what do you get? You get the devil and we all know the devil is in the details.

2. Herman Cain proposed a federal sales tax and thus taking away or marginalizing the power of a state to manage its own sales tax policy and the conservatives cheer?

3. Per his request as reflected in his performance I'm going to officially eliminate Perry from contention.

4. Romney looks like he is going to get his wish...it's a shame he will get get creamed by Obama.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

Few things:

1. If you turn 999 upside down what do you get? You get the devil and we all know the devil is in the details.

The more I hear from her the less likely I think she'll ever be successful on the national stage.

2. Herman Cain proposed a federal sales tax and thus taking away or marginalizing the power of a state to manage its own sales tax policy and the conservatives cheer?

Herman Cain's 999 plan is a step towards implementing the FairTax plan. Under FairTax the states still have the opportunity to impose an income tax, however that's unlikely and states will simply adjust their sales tax rate to be revenue neutral.

3. Per his request as reflected in his performance I'm going to officially eliminate Perry from contention.

agree

4. Romney looks like he is going to get his wish...

Game on!

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by saden1

Few things:

1. If you turn 999 upside down what do you get? You get the devil and we all know the devil is in the details.

2. Herman Cain proposed a federal sales tax and thus taking away or marginalizing the power of a state to manage its own sales tax policy and the conservatives cheer?

3. Per his request as reflected in his performance I'm going to officially eliminate Perry from contention.

4. Romney looks like he is going to get his wish...it's a shame he will get get creamed by Obama.

I just don't like Romney who is second runner up right now to Cain. Of the two I'd take Cain but I'm not impressed with him either.

Again which is why I'd take Trump. I know some will think I'm a fool but I like a lot of his ideas which were similar to my own and thinking hopefully a business man can fix our failed situation over bringing in yet another failed politition.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

Few things:

1. If you turn 999 upside down what do you get? You get the devil and we all know the devil is in the details.

2. Herman Cain proposed a federal sales tax and thus taking away or marginalizing the power of a state to manage its own sales tax policy and the conservatives cheer?

3. Per his request as reflected in his performance I'm going to officially eliminate Perry from contention.

4. Romney looks like he is going to get his wish...it's a shame he will get get creamed by Obama.

I don't think the Cain sales tax has any affect on the states taxes. Why would it?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Folks like us that follow things understand what's going on and to Obama's credit he's done some good things on National Security.....some not so good too. At the end of the day the Rs will point to defense cuts, Obama simply reaping the benefits (the al-Qaeda kills) of what the Bush Admin started, and mention that he had no foreign policy experience when he came in. I don't see NS being an issue that helps Obama.

In Nov. 2012, "It's the economy stupid", and 39% approval numbers a year out from re-election ain't good.

That poll was done right after Bin Laden was killed....c'mon man.

Looks like Obama still reaping that benifits of a poor economy, which was what the Bush Admin started. Interesting read, inflation numbers and consumer price indexes from 2004 to 2008

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Looks like Obama still reaping that benifits of a poor economy, which was what the Bush Admin started. Interesting read, inflation numbers and consumer price indexes from 2004 to 2008

Keep in mind, I'm stating how I think the Rs will attack Obama on National Security, not that I think it's the best way to go. Precisely because of some counter-arguments that are opened up, specifically like the one you just mentioned.

If it's me running the R campaign, I give credit to Obama for success against Al Qaeda and mention that he's taken plays from the conservative playbook in the War on Terror....and I make it a point to call it that, I point to defense cuts, and point to his limited foreign policy experience in 2008. Then I quickly move on to the poor economy, tax & spend, etc.