Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

[backrow]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Me... I'd prefer to trade back for more picks which means more players which means more chances on hitting good players. Getting younger and faster and healthier at all positions is key. If RGIII falls to number 6 then I'm in for taking him but I'm not for mortgaging the teams future for one player. He's not the only player to come out of the draft with similar skill sets ie; Newton last year. Next year it will probably be the LSU kid who decided to stay in college.

Very well stated SBXVII! I don't want a PM with a fused neck and a noodle arm. I don't want to trade up either. The poll is skewed. It does not allow for us to trade back like we did for Kerrigan, and net more picks. It also assumes that we would have to trade up for RGIII or Luck. There are no givens, but there are general trends. Any mock over on HailRedskins.com can tell you approximately where a player may be taken. Some mocks actually have multiple rounds or the entire draft.

[30gut]

Signing Peyton Manning doesn't preclude the team from acquiring a potential 'franchise' QB.

It simply reduces the urgency to acquire a QB of the future this draft, thus allowing the top draft choices to go directly towards adding young talent to the roster. (OL, WR etc)

It allows the team the choice to develop and groom a QB of the future at their pace.
Sure they could draft a QB with the 6th pick or in the second round or 3rd round.
But I think the team would be better served adding talent for Peyton with this draft class top picks.
Then they could draft a mid-round QB prospect or they could draft a 1st round QB in future drafts if neccesary.

Now if they choose to draft a QB in a future draft while Peyton is under the center we likely/hopefully won't be picking in the top half of the draft.
But we all now that franchise can come from anywhere in the draft they're not relegated exclusively to the top 10 picks.

A recent example is Joe Flacco who was drafted with 18th pick in the same draft where Matt Ryan was drafted with the 3rd pick.
I think its fair to say that both QBs have proven themselves their respectives team's 'franchise' QBs?

The Ravens moved up from the 26th pick to the 18th pick by giving up a only a 3rd round pick and a 6th round pick.

[los panda]

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[wordsmithgk]

Griffin without doubt. Do whatever it takes. Young, athletic, throws a pretty long ball and best of all will bring excitement and invigorate the fanbase

[irish]

Originally Posted by wordsmithgk

Griffin without doubt. Do whatever it takes. Young, athletic, throws a pretty long ball and best of all will bring excitement and invigorate the fanbase

Winning and winning alone is what will invigorate the fanbase.

[Alvin Walton]

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Really isn't that bad lol

[TexSkins]

So if we sign Peyton before the draft, do we draft RGIII if he falls to us? I say yes since it would solidify or QB situation for the next decade.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by TexSkins

So if we sign Peyton before the draft, do we draft RGIII if he falls to us? I say yes since it would solidify or QB situation for the next decade.

This is probably the best case scenario...although RG3 at #6 could also land us many suitors in a trade (Miami, Cleveland, Seattle, etc., etc.).

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by TexSkins

So if we sign Peyton before the draft, do we draft RGIII if he falls to us? I say yes since it would solidify or QB situation for the next decade.

That would be weird, though. Because those two are completely different players, you'd literally have to start from scratch in terms of building your offense when RG3 takes over. I'd still like it to happen (just because it opens up so much for us), but if RG3 falls to us (which I don't see happening), I'd rather trade out of 1.6 and acquire more picks.

[Jontrem]

Originally Posted by irish

Winning and winning alone is what will invigorate the fanbase.

Yes, at this point I would be okay with Vick or Roethlisburger as long as we started winning again....actually no I wouldn't....well maybe Vick as he paid his debt to society with his jail time.

[mooby]

For me it all depends on how FA shakes out. There's multiple scenarios here which I wouldn't mind if it happened.

Scenario A:
Sign Manning in FA, trade down in first, pick up multiple picks, take Tannehill in late first/early second and also use other picks to fill other spots, like maybe a Kendall Wright or Juron Criner to help out Manning.

Scenario B:
RG3 falls to 6, we take him. No trade down, no FA qb, etc. This would be a scenario I wouldn't see happening as the Shannies' first choice, but one where if the situation did occure they'd take advantage of.

Scenario C: Crazy trade scenario where we trade up to 1, Colts trade down to 2, and Rams trade down to 6. We get Luck, Colts get RG3, and Rams get draft picks to help out Bradford.

Scenarios I would be pissed if they happened:

Scenario D: We sign Orton in FA, and take one of the non-Tannehill 2nd rate draft qb's available and head into TC with Orton and 2nd rate guy ready to battle.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by mooby

For me it all depends on how FA shakes out. There's multiple scenarios here which I wouldn't mind if it happened.

Scenario A:
Sign Manning in FA, trade down in first, pick up multiple picks, take Tannehill in late first/early second and also use other picks to fill other spots, like maybe a Kendall Wright or Juron Criner to help out Manning.

Scenario B:
RG3 falls to 6, we take him. No trade down, no FA qb, etc. This would be a scenario I wouldn't see happening as the Shannies' first choice, but one where if the situation did occure they'd take advantage of.

Scenario C: Crazy trade scenario where we trade up to 1, Colts trade down to 2, and Rams trade down to 6. We get Luck, Colts get RG3, and Rams get draft picks to help out Bradford.

Scenarios I would be pissed if they happened:

Scenario D: We sign Orton in FA, and take one of the non-Tannehill 2nd rate draft qb's available and head into TC with Orton and 2nd rate guy ready to battle.

I like option A although I wouldn't take a QB early in that scenario I would target BPA with a focus on OL,S

I love option B and I think its possible, but man we all need to start living right to be lucky enough for Griffin to fall to us

Don't like C too much

I view option C much differently then you because I don't consider all the non-Tannehill QBs '2nd rate' and therefore wouldn't be as upset with some of them that scenario depending on where they're drafted.
It would gall me a little though because Orton was available last offseason and we didn't go after him.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by mooby

For me it all depends on how FA shakes out. There's multiple scenarios here which I wouldn't mind if it happened.

Scenario A:
Sign Manning in FA, trade down in first, pick up multiple picks, take Tannehill in late first/early second and also use other picks to fill other spots, like maybe a Kendall Wright or Juron Criner to help out Manning.

Scenario B:
RG3 falls to 6, we take him. No trade down, no FA qb, etc. This would be a scenario I wouldn't see happening as the Shannies' first choice, but one where if the situation did occure they'd take advantage of.

Scenario C: Crazy trade scenario where we trade up to 1, Colts trade down to 2, and Rams trade down to 6. We get Luck, Colts get RG3, and Rams get draft picks to help out Bradford.

Scenarios I would be pissed if they happened:

Scenario D: We sign Orton in FA, and take one of the non-Tannehill 2nd rate draft qb's available and head into TC with Orton and 2nd rate guy ready to battle.

Right on all around.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Wait. Luck had a mediocre line? I wouldn't say that at all.