2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Seriously?

Romney is stupid with Britain?

He didn't offend them by returning the Winston Churchhill bust or present the queen with an audio edition of his greatest speeches.

No comparison. Don't even try that argument. The grasping at straws by scared liberals everywhere is pathetic.

I'm not grasping at straws, just go on the internet and Google Romney in London. The headlines will speak for themselves. Try it.

[12thMan]

The British PM and then the Mayor of London totally bitch smacked Romney in front of 60,000 screaming fans yesterday. But yeah, let's talk about Churchhill's bust. lol

[dmek25]

Romney campaign tries to pick up the pieces from gaffe-strewn London visit | World news | guardian.co.uk

[12thMan]

How Rupert Murdoch's Sun covered Romney's visit to ... on Twitpic

[saden1]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

The British PM and then the Mayor of London totally bitch smacked Romney in front of 60,000 screaming fans yesterday. But yeah, let's talk about Churchhill's bust. lol

You think if we extended the Churchill Bust loan and kept it we would be harboring the bust of an Hitler-centric anti-appeasement bandwagoner in the White House or would we be taking valuable bust space that could be filled by an American?

[Chico23231]

British press fillets Romney - Patrick Gavin - POLITICO.com

Im seriously not voting this year. "Mitt the Twit", what a complete embarressment...epic fail.

[12thMan]

MonkeyDad and HailGreen28,

Look, President Obama snuck the Churchill bust back in the White House. #stoplisteningtofoxnews

Shhh...

Fact Check: The Bust of Winston Churchill | The White House

[saden1]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

MonkeyDad and HailGreen28,

Look, President Obama snuck the Churchill bust back in the White House. #stoplisteningtofoxnews

Shhh...

Fact Check: The Bust of Winston Churchill | The White House

Man, they even had me with the whole bust thing....You mean to tell me it was all a lie and the bust is still there? Team Romney has been negligent in fact checking their candidate's talking points?

[12thMan]

So awesome.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by saden1

Man, they even had me with the whole bust thing....You mean to tell me it was all a lie and the bust is still there? Team Romney has been negligent in fact checking their candidate's talking points?

What's utterly insane is they can see it right there in plain view, with the British PM, and still won't believe it.

[NC_Skins]

[mlmpetert]

I think well hear more about Churchill's bust pretty soon. But i think the issue is that it was removed from the Oval Office, not that it was sent back to GB. Back in 2009:

A British Embassy spokesman said: "The bust of Sir Winston Churchill by Sir Jacob Epstein was uniquely lent to a foreign head of state, President George W Bush, from the Government Art Collection in the wake of 9/11 as a signal of the strong transatlantic relationship.

"It was lent for the first term of office of President Bush. When the President was elected for his second and final term, the loan was extended until January 2009.

"The new President has decided not to continue this loan and the bust has now been returned. It is on display at the Ambassador's Residence."


Barack Obama sends bust of Winston Churchill on its way back to Britain - Telegraph

Romney's actual (meaning real) remarks:

"I'm looking forward to the bust of Winston Churchill being in the Oval Office again,"

Romney promises to bring Churchill bust back to White House - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Maybe by placing it with the diplomat it becomes technically held by the foreign country the said diplomat represents?

[12thMan]

It's really not that serious to begin with, I only raised it because Monkeyday made hay about it.

[saden1]

My understanding is that the bust has not been returned or given back to the ambassador. It was simply relocated from the Oval Office to another location in the White House in favor of Abe's bust.

The whole story about it being returned or what have you originated from National Journal and it seems that the media neglected to fact check NJ's claims. Also, Romney could very well have been just saying that he would relocate Churchill's bust back to the Oval Office...hopefully not in favor of Abe's bust.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

It's really not that serious to begin with, I only raised it because Monkeyday made hay about it.

It really isn't...Given that bust space is limited I do think that busts of great Americans belong in the Oval Office more so than that of any other foreign figures.