RG3 and Gruden?

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Isn't his contract 5 million per year?

5 years × 4 million equals 20 million

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Plus if Gruden keeps putting this trash out for 4 years, Danny would lose a lot more then 20m because of lost revenue.

People keep saying this. It's a statement based on no fact whatsoever, it's nothing but conjecture. We've had plenty of losing seasons but think about how you feel the next August, you're hanging on every moment of every preseason game thirsting for real football, wishfully believing that this year will be better.

We will still sell out games. People will still fill the stadium until it is very late in the season and they're out of it. We are a loyal (foolish?) bunch. We can't help but get caught up in the excitement and anticipation.

We are not a fair weather fan base, the revenue stream will be fine.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

People keep saying this. It's a statement based on no fact whatsoever, it's nothing but conjecture. We've had plenty of losing seasons but think about how you feel the next August, you're hanging on every moment of every preseason game thirsting for real football, wishfully believing that this year will be better.

We will still sell out games. People will still fill the stadium until it is very late in the season and they're out of it. We are a loyal (foolish?) bunch. We can't help but get caught up in the excitement and anticipation.

We are not a fair weather fan base, the revenue stream will be fine.

I agree but I also don't think Danny won't feel any fiscal pain in firing Gruden

[VTSkins1961]

unless we get blown out all of those games. Allen should be gone or at lest moved to business side HAZ gone, if he retains gruden and we go on a losing strak i could him getting axed during the season

[VTSkins1961]

Why gruden must go: Here are the 10 worst Redskins seasons of all time - The Washington Post

[Kope]

This is easily the worst situation I can ever remember any NFL team being in

Matt Millen at Detroit was worse. A lot. If 0-16 isn't bad enough, look at their drafting. Painful to look at even for another team.

The last few years of Al Davis was worse. He finally had a coach that turned the team around and then fired him (Tom Cable at 8-8)

Tampa Bay for a long, long, long, time. 1982-1996 all losing seasons - 10 of those seasons less than 6 wins....horrid.

the Saints 1967 - 1986. 20 consecutive non winning seasons. (one 8-8 in there)

I will agree this is the worst the place the Washington redskins have been in since 1981 for sure. Will be interested as to what happens after the season.

[calia]

Speaking of bad franchises: The Book of Daniel «

[Meks]

I hate Hazlett, he needs to go.
Boycott.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Don't know if this has been posted on here but it doesn't sound like we'd be on the hook for a whole lot if he finds another gig, even as a coordinator.

Insider Buzz: Contract Could Entice Redskins to Fire Gruden Instead of Cut RG3 | Bleacher Report

[Rotten1980]

Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

Don't know if this has been posted on here but it doesn't sound like we'd be on the hook for a whole lot if he finds another gig, even as a coordinator.

Insider Buzz: Contract Could Entice Redskins to Fire Gruden Instead of Cut RG3 | Bleacher Report

This is the best Redskins news for several weeks.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

Don't know if this has been posted on here but it doesn't sound like we'd be on the hook for a whole lot if he finds another gig, even as a coordinator.

Insider Buzz: Contract Could Entice Redskins to Fire Gruden Instead of Cut RG3 | Bleacher Report

Well this definitely changes things in my mind.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Well this definitely changes things in my mind.

If this is correct, Cole is literally the only one that has this. I've talked to about - half dozen local beat reporters and columnists and some national guys, and everyone says this is incorrect

[Rotten1980]

The right leader can change attitudes in a couple weeks, culture in a couple months and the whole team in a couple years. Gotta find that guy.

[KI Skins Fan]

I think trading or cutting RGIII could be a disaster for this franchise. Robert is only 24 years old and, in the past, he has been able to recover fully from major injuries. He is clearly a very intelligent young man and he works hard. Now, he has been humbled and he knows that he a lot to learn about playing QB in the NFL.

You have a young man who could come back next year fully restored to health with all of the physical gifts with which he entered the NFL. If he is motivated to get better over the off-season (and he'd better be), he could come back with a much better understanding of the offense in which he is playing and improved mechanics. This is a player you want on your team.

Reluctantly, I have to admit that for RGIII to have a chance to become a very good QB for the Skins in the near future, the Skins need to retain Jay Gruden and let Robert develop in the same offense for the next few years.

I think Bruce Allen should make it crystal clear to both Jay and Robert that, like it or not, they will both be here next season, that it is still Jay's job to develop Robert, and it is still Robert's job to learn everything he possibly can about this offense and how to be a pocket passer. Robert should also be told that it is his responsibility to earn his way back on the field and that he is expected to do whatever it takes to make that happen by the opening game of 2015.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I think trading or cutting RGIII could be a disaster for this franchise. Robert is only 24 years old and, in the past, he has been able to recover fully from major injuries. He is clearly a very intelligent young man and he works hard. Now, he has been humbled and he knows that he a lot to learn about playing QB in the NFL.

You have a young man who could come back next year fully restored to health with all of the physical gifts with which he entered the NFL. If he is motivated to get better over the off-season (and he'd better be), he could come back with a much better understanding of the offense in which he is playing and improved mechanics. This is a player you want on your team.

Reluctantly, I have to admit that for RGIII to have a chance to become a very good QB for the Skins in the near future, the Skins need to retain Jay Gruden and let Robert develop in the same offense for the next few years.

I think Bruce Allen should make it crystal clear to both Jay and Robert that, like it or not, they will both be here next season, that it is still Jay's job to develop Robert, and it is still Robert's job to learn everything he possibly can about this offense and how to be a pocket passer. Robert should also be told that it is his responsibility to earn his way back on the field and that he is expected to do whatever it takes to make that happen by the opening game of 2015.

Hopefully cooler heads will prevail during the offseason. I do agree it's too early to give up on him, he's still under contract, so continue to develop him.