Trouble in Redskins Park?

metalskins · 03-07-2017, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

This is what I was talking about when I said Gruden vs McC, not that they don't get along but it seems that Gruden's influence is growing and perhaps filling the void from McC's diminishing role.

Need to Know: Gruden's extension further increases his power in Redskins organization | CSN Mid-Atlantic

As long as Gruden makes the right decisions with personnel, then I don't see a problem with Gruden's growing influence. His move with RGIII to Kirk Cousins was a highly risky one that paid off. I love the idea of having a good coach around for a few years. That being said, I don't think it should ever grow to the point to where he's coach/GM. I think there needs to be a solid player personnel guy in that position, one that both Gruden and Allen would respect and likewise. A good working relationship with all three. I still would love to keep McCloughan on staff if he's willing to take some sort of a diminished role. If he's head of the scouting department or something like that, but I don't know how that would honestly work with the personalities we currently have in the front office now. Who knows? Maybe McCloughan keeps his job and everybody continues to hold hands and sing camp fire songs? I just don't trust player acquisition to Bruce Allen, and I don't think a head coach should be taking on that responsibility - especially when he's only been head coach for three years.

Chico23231 · 03-07-2017, 02:53 PM

After missing the Combine, Redskins GM Scot McCloughan has not returned to team headquarters and is not involved in free agent negotiations.

Publicly, team brass has insisted McCloughan would return to Redskins Park whenever he is finished dealing with "personal matters." Privately, it appears McCloughan is being forced out or already has been. The NFL Combine is a critical venue for both draft and free agency information gathering, and teams make some of their biggest decisions of the year during this week's legal tampering window and Thursday's official start of free agency.

McC not negotiation with FA...doesn't make sense.

sdskinsfan2001 · 03-07-2017, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

After missing the Combine, Redskins GM Scot McCloughan has not returned to team headquarters and is not involved in free agent negotiations.

Publicly, team brass has insisted McCloughan would return to Redskins Park whenever he is finished dealing with "personal matters." Privately, it appears McCloughan is being forced out or already has been. The NFL Combine is a critical venue for both draft and free agency information gathering, and teams make some of their biggest decisions of the year during this week's legal tampering window and Thursday's official start of free agency.

McC not negotiation with FA...doesn't make sense.

It does if he's gonna get fired.

metalskins · 03-07-2017, 03:27 PM

If what was said is true, I don't think the team can comment that he's in rehab, so if he hasn't returned by now, I have a feeling he's already out.

Chico23231 · 03-07-2017, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

It does if he's gonna get fired.

Keim saying he aint even at Redskins Park...sad day.

yikes:

https://twitter.com/RyanButlerLT/sta...872384/photo/1

Stacks42 · 03-07-2017, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Keim saying he aint even at Redskins Park...sad day.

yikes:

https://twitter.com/RyanButlerLT/sta...872384/photo/1

Well at least he is rocking Skins gear.

Chico23231 · 03-07-2017, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacks42

Well at least he is rocking Skins gear.

Think I smoked a joint with that guy at an Allman Brother Concert about 15 years ago.

mredskins · 03-07-2017, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Keim saying he aint even at Redskins Park...sad day.

yikes:

https://twitter.com/RyanButlerLT/sta...872384/photo/1

His face says it all.

mooby · 03-07-2017, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

After missing the Combine, Redskins GM Scot McCloughan has not returned to team headquarters and is not involved in free agent negotiations.

Publicly, team brass has insisted McCloughan would return to Redskins Park whenever he is finished dealing with "personal matters." Privately, it appears McCloughan is being forced out or already has been. The NFL Combine is a critical venue for both draft and free agency information gathering, and teams make some of their biggest decisions of the year during this week's legal tampering window and Thursday's official start of free agency.

McC not negotiation with FA...doesn't make sense.

I don't think that was ever the case, he never got involved with negotiations going back to when he was hired. He's the football guy, Schaeffer/Allen/Williams? are the cap guys.

Still, does anybody believe he's not getting fired? Man didn't work the combine and it looks like he's going to keep his distance in free agency. In what world is that a functioning relationship? I'm 98% sure based on that and SS's reports that he's done with us. Nobody fires the GM in the free agency though, that would just make us look bad.

CRedskinsRule · 03-07-2017, 05:04 PM

Maybe he's been resting up for Redskin1's whirlwind tour Friday evening. Ahhh Snyderatto is in the air.

SolidSnake84 · 03-07-2017, 05:22 PM

He is not in rehab. He is at home. He is watching game film and what not. He expects to be fired shortly after the draft.

Mike Jones: McCloughan at Home, ‘Probably Gone’ After Draft « CBS DC

Get ready guys. We are soon to be the laughing stock once again of the NFL, not that we may not be already.

This thing with Scot is just sad. I don't even think he relapsed now. I think for whatever reason Gruden wanted him out and with Gruden's stock rising in the eye of Snyder and Allen, Scott M was viewed as the expendable piece...

Evilgrin · 03-07-2017, 05:33 PM

I can't wait til McCloughan can talk.

SolidSnake84 · 03-07-2017, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Evilgrin

I can't wait til McCloughan can talk.

He probably won't be able to legally say anything until well after he has been fired from here. Similar to Shanahan. He didn't really unload on us and talk about the RG3 / Snyder mess until well after he was fired, IIRC.

But i'm not sure if anyone else has pointed it out, but holy christ look at Scott's face. I hope its bad lighting or a bad picture but his face looks purple in that photo. He doesn't look like a man who is well....

FlyerSkin · 03-07-2017, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

He probably won't be able to legally say anything until well after he has been fired from here. Similar to Shanahan. He didn't really unload on us and talk about the RG3 / Snyder mess until well after he was fired, IIRC.

But i'm not sure if anyone else has pointed it out, but holy christ look at Scott's face. I hope its bad lighting or a bad picture but his face looks purple in that photo. He doesn't look like a man who is well....

I looked at the photo after reading this post of yours. I have seen pics of him looking worse. He looked OK to me.

SolidSnake84 · 03-07-2017, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyerSkin

I looked at the photo after reading this post of yours. I have seen pics of him looking worse. He looked OK to me.

That's why i said i hoped it was just bad lighting. I thought he looked purple. Had to be the lighting....

03-07-2017, 02:53 PM	#2
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,307	Re: Trouble in Redskins Park? After missing the Combine, Redskins GM Scot McCloughan has not returned to team headquarters and is not involved in free agent negotiations. Publicly, team brass has insisted McCloughan would return to Redskins Park whenever he is finished dealing with "personal matters." Privately, it appears McCloughan is being forced out or already has been. The NFL Combine is a critical venue for both draft and free agency information gathering, and teams make some of their biggest decisions of the year during this week's legal tampering window and Thursday's official start of free agency. McC not negotiation with FA...doesn't make sense. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

03-07-2017, 03:27 PM	#4
metalskins The Starter Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 1,464	Re: Trouble in Redskins Park? If what was said is true, I don't think the team can comment that he's in rehab, so if he hasn't returned by now, I have a feeling he's already out. __________________ Reserved for a witty signature.

03-07-2017, 05:04 PM	#10
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 59 Posts: 21,744	Re: Trouble in Redskins Park? Maybe he's been resting up for Redskin1's whirlwind tour Friday evening. Ahhh Snyderatto is in the air.

03-07-2017, 05:22 PM	#11
SolidSnake84 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stephens City, VA Posts: 2,953	Re: Trouble in Redskins Park? He is not in rehab. He is at home. He is watching game film and what not. He expects to be fired shortly after the draft. Mike Jones: McCloughan at Home, ‘Probably Gone’ After Draft « CBS DC Get ready guys. We are soon to be the laughing stock once again of the NFL, not that we may not be already. This thing with Scot is just sad. I don't even think he relapsed now. I think for whatever reason Gruden wanted him out and with Gruden's stock rising in the eye of Snyder and Allen, Scott M was viewed as the expendable piece... __________________ Time to nut up or shut up

03-07-2017, 05:33 PM	#12
Evilgrin The Starter Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 1,074	Re: Trouble in Redskins Park? I can't wait til McCloughan can talk. __________________ Bruce Allen “We’re winning off the field,” Redskins #2 In Revenue Per Year!

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