Skins getting heat again over name issue

[The_Hangman_C_Hanburger]

Originally Posted by skinsfanmdc

Feel dumb now?

Piss off. The beltway connects the entire metro area. The land is cheaper and located to the most wealthy Northern Virginia suburbs. Skins are in Richmond/Ashburn already as a training center.

This is a perfect opportunity for Virginia to make an offer. The way the Washington Press and fan base have treated the Skins lately, Dan shouldn't have any compunction if the deal is close. That or do a Baltimore Colts end run and bug out all together. I sure wouldn't blame him.

The Stadium has been the opposing team's home field for years. Disgusting.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by The_Hangman_C_Hanburger

Maryland and DC are bastions of bullshit. Loudon County/Dulles AP area has all the high speed infrastructure to support the team without all the crime that comes from the RFK/ SE Washington area.

Jack Kent Cook didn't think so. You seem to forget that the deal he got from Maryland was decent but Maryland covered their ass ,if the Skins break the lease they must repay all infrastructure money and yes Danny is wealthy he can't throw money around like that and I think there is still about 5-7(not sure) years left on the lease. there is also the question of what to do with RalJon after the Redskins leave ,no College teams need it,there is a Mall across the Beltway and a Metro down the street The Redskins will never get the value they need for it Baltimore is out. Hogan has talked about letting Snyder have a Casino license for "sports betting" to stay where he is. The name change will allow him what he wants , to rebuild on the old RFK site and in Washington.

[BaltimoreSkins]

IDK man this is the perfect free market change if you ask me. Fans have been bailing and not attending. Now the pocketbook is being hit. If you run a business and customers and business investors cease to see value you rebrand plain and simple. We can boycott Nike, Fed Ex and Pepsi as Skins fans all we want but that is a drop in the bucket financially. Most people here invest in the team be it merchandise, game tickets but the costs outweigh any financial gains made by us the fans.

[skinsfanmdc]

Time for a change. And those saying they will not support the team do to a name change are telling a lie. When they start winning consistently you will be right back on the bandwagon.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ith-dan-snyder

[BaltimoreSkins]

It is no longer the SE from the 1980s

[Back2RFK]

I have followed this issue for years and its really a non issue with most Indians. Its more media driven today then anything else. Remember the big protest they planed several years back in Green Bay and about 6 people showed up. I watched a forum that was held at some place in DC and out of all the speakers only one person was an Indian. Redskin refers to Indians that would put red clay on their faces before they would go into battle. An Indian Chief designed the logo. Most Indians say they are proud or not offended by the name. Its a non issue made into an issue by the media. I hope Dan stands his ground but I'm sure the NFL will get involved if the name is not changed.

[skinsfanmdc]

"Sheehan just said he heard that Dan's favorite name right now is Warriors but that name has to be vetted so its not locked."

It's between Red Tails, and Warriors.

[skinsfanmdc]

Oh as far the Ravens in Maryland, everything has to do with winning. When DC starts winning consistently we can revisit that topic.

[skinsfanmdc]

Snyder Snyder...

I suggest moving the team out of any democratic or liberal run state or district period!

[Monkeydad]

I'd LOVE if Snyder could pull an F.U. and say "Sure I'll change the name...to Virginia/Richmond Redskins", but the politics won't allow that.

[MTK]

Speaking of unhinged clowns, rage tweet incoming

Donald Trump defends Redskins, Indians team names

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by MTK

Speaking of unhinged clowns, rage tweet incoming

Donald Trump defends Redskins, Indians team names

So what's to argue there? They ARE two historic franchises and are changing due to political correctness.

I tend to believe the government should have no say on what a private business wants to call itself. The consumers can decide if they want to give them money or not, but legislating based on feelings is a dangerous route to take. The perpetually offended will never be satisfied.

[SunnySide]

Redhawks .. RedTails .. none of that represents the area at all.

I looked to see what tribes were in our area ..

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The United States Capital is surrounded by just over a dozen tribal nations that thrive along the Anacostia and Potomac River watersheds, Chesapeake Bay area, and the states of Maryland, Virginia, and Delaware. Washington D.C. sits on the ancestral lands of the Anacostans (also documented as Pamunkey Indian TribeNacotchtank), and over time neighboring the Piscataway and Pamunkey peoples.

The District of Columbia shares borders with Maryland and Virginia, and connect with lands along the Anacostia and Potomac River. These river systems and current national parks are where the Piscataway, Pamunkey, the Nentego (Nanichoke), Mattaponi, Chickahominy, Monacan, and the Powhatan cultures thrived. According to the National Park Service, the region “was rich in natural resources and supported the local native people.” After the arrival of the Europeans, just 40 years later, there were only a quarter of the original occupance. The indigenous populations were decimated by new diseases and war. Many of the surviving joined other tribes beyond the boundaries of their ancestral lands, moving further inland and encroaching or merging with larger tribes.

According to the documented arrival of John Smith and first contact with the English colonizers in the 17th century, the indigenous tribes were intricately mapped throughout the Chesapeake Bay area. Within 40 years the existing indigenous townships and Powhatan cultures were crippled by the introduction of new diseases and war. The remaining numbers of tribes were forcibly removed from their homelands, pushed further to join larger tribes like those in the northern Algonquian speaking nations. Remaining tribes were sold into slavery in the Caribbean Islands. According to officials at the National Museum of the American Indian, there is no living Nacotchtank lineage left. Their numbers were decimated, and survivors were adopted into the Piscataway people, losing their original identity and descendancy.
Recognition in the 21st Century

Given the romanticized story of Captain John Smith and Pocahontas in this region, the original people experienced the ravages brought on by the settler-colonial introduction of diseases, encroachment and forced removal, and erasure of traditional and cultural survival of the tribes. Today, the indigenous people that reside in the Washington D.C. area continue to present their case for recognition for descendant communities. These citizens fight for their nations hoping to restore or receive a government-to-government relationship with the U.S. government. In Virginia, 11 have achieved state recognition. The Pamunkey tribe recently acquired its land and is one of the only two Virginian tribes that own land after colonization of present-day Washington, D.C. As of January 2018, the Pamunkey, Rappahannock, and Upper Mattaponi tribes have received federal recognition.
http://www.ala.org/aboutala/indigeno...-washington-dc

Washington Anacostans?

Did not know John Smith and Pocahantos were from this region, i think I may reading into this passage wrong. Figured it happened in the NE area ...

[CrustyRedskin]

I guess Snyder is going to cower down over the name because he's sceered peaceful protesters may come riot, loot, pillage and plunder Fedex field. Opposing teams and fans do that to Fedex every Sunday during the season so I don't get his reasoning.