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Pocket$ $traight · 08-09-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Betts is a good #2 RB, and filled in nicely when Portis went down, but keep in mind there was not a lot of teams knocking on his door to steal him away from the Skins when his contract came up. He wanted to test the open market and got no phone calls. My only concern is we have 3 RB's all around the same age and when one decides its time to hang up the cleats I'm betting the other two will be thinking the same thing only cause of age. The team needs to start looking for a Replacement for Portis who can be developed/groomed until Portis is ready to say goodbye. Someone young and talented like a Mason. I'm in no way saying he's ready to take over for Portis right now. but I'm sure he would do just as well a job as Betts did.

I don't recall that being true. I remember the Jets wanting him and I also remember that he decided to take less money in order to stay in his comfort zone. When was he signed? I don't think he ever hit the open market.

tryfuhl · 08-09-2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Betts is a good #2 RB, and filled in nicely when Portis went down, but keep in mind there was not a lot of teams knocking on his door to steal him away from the Skins when his contract came up. He wanted to test the open market and got no phone calls. My only concern is we have 3 RB's all around the same age and when one decides its time to hang up the cleats I'm betting the other two will be thinking the same thing only cause of age. The team needs to start looking for a Replacement for Portis who can be developed/groomed until Portis is ready to say goodbye. Someone young and talented like a Mason. I'm in no way saying he's ready to take over for Portis right now. but I'm sure he would do just as well a job as Betts did.

Nobody wanted Betts or Cartwright, so yeah... I like Rock but he's a special teamer, not a running back.. Betts is a number 3 on a stacked team at best.. he's a number 2 for what we have available but that's about it

Maybe if he gets the ball more that will change but yeah

Pocket$ $traight · 08-10-2009, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Nobody wanted Betts or Cartwright, so yeah... I like Rock but he's a special teamer, not a running back.. Betts is a number 3 on a stacked team at best.. he's a number 2 for what we have available but that's about it

Maybe if he gets the ball more that will change but yeah

Betts is a # 3 at best on a stacked team? Was the '06 team stacked?

I am going to bow out of this conversation. I deal in reality.

dmvskinzfan08 · 08-10-2009, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Betts is a # 3 at best on a stacked team? Was the '06 team stacked?

I am going to bow out of this conversation. I deal in reality.

In '06 I think it was more of the fact that the offensive line was on fire. If you plug any decent back in there they would do the same. This was a year where the o-line deserved a lot of credit. Betts needs to learn how to be s hort yardage back. He is horrible around the goal line and Portis is far better at beast'n his way in the end zone.. Betts..NOT

tryfuhl · 08-10-2009, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Betts is a # 3 at best on a stacked team? Was the '06 team stacked?

I am going to bow out of this conversation. I deal in reality.

Ahhh, such a convincing argument!

The Goat · 08-10-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Betts is a # 3 at best on a stacked team? Was the '06 team stacked?

I am going to bow out of this conversation. I deal in reality.

Good stuff man...good stuff. And I'm right there w/ you on Betts...a number of teams would luv to have him and probably ran him like crazy over the last few years...our downfall for not using him.

tryfuhl · 08-11-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Good stuff man...good stuff. And I'm right there w/ you on Betts...a number of teams would luv to have him and probably ran him like crazy over the last few years...our downfall for not using him.

I said a stacked team; but since you guys deal in reality, from 3 years ago, I'll let it slide, that's reality enough for me.

SBXVII · 08-09-2009, 12:21 AM

Perhaps we both are wrong but I coulda swore he waited to see what his value was and stayed with the Skins. I don't recall the Jets wanting him but I could be wrong. I'll admit that.

Pocket$ $traight · 08-09-2009, 12:22 AM

This Marcus Mason fantasy needs to end. He is the new Leigh Torrence. Both suck. That is why neither caught on anywhere when they were dropped.

Walt Harris was and is 1000 times better than Leigh Torrence and Marcus Mason is probably the 6th best back on the team counting the Caveman.

SBXVII · 08-09-2009, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

This Marcus Mason fantasy needs to end. He is the new Leigh Torrence. Both suck. That is why neither caught on anywhere when they were dropped.

Walt Harris was and is 1000 times better than Leigh Torrence and Marcus Mason is probably the 6th best back on the team counting the Caveman.

Wow, I guess you are right. Could you do me a favor and put a phone call in to Zorn and let him know cause now I'm baffled as to why they even challenged San Diego for Mason's rights? Especially when they could have just let him go cause he sucks like LT.

Pocket$ $traight · 08-09-2009, 12:28 AM

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Wow, I guess you are right. Could you do me a favor and put a phone call in to Zorn and let him know cause now I'm baffled as to why they even challenged San Diego for Mason's rights? Especially when they could have just let him go cause he sucks like LT.

Quit drinking and typing. So now Marcus Mason is in the same sentence as LT?

Why not Barry Sanders and Walter Payton next? He did lead the league in pre-season yards last year....

We are holding back a future hall of famer...

Do you really think he is going to make the roster?

SBXVII · 08-09-2009, 12:30 AM

Dude you are all over the board. LT Leigh Torrence. Wake the hell up. I just used initials. I was speaking of the same people you were. Are we a little agitated today Pocket? Did not get any last night? Whats all the hostility?

Pocket$ $traight · 08-09-2009, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Dude you are all over the board. LT Leigh Torrence. Wake the hell up. I just used initials. I was speaking of the same people you were. Are we a little agitated today Pocket? Did not get any last night? Whats all the hostility?

What hostility? I just love fantasies where a practice squad player is proclaimed better than a back who ran for over 1100 yards sharing the load for much of the year.

Don't worry about my personal life but your sister came over so you know the answer...

My bad on the "LT" reference. I should have known Leigh Torrence is "LT" now...

SBXVII · 08-09-2009, 12:32 AM

Your asking if I'm drinking and your the one switching from RB position to CB position? Can we switch to kickers next?

Pocket$ $traight · 08-09-2009, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Your asking if I'm drinking and your the one switching from RB position to CB position? Can we switch to kickers next?

Too many people have this fetish with Marcus Mason just like too many think that Leigh Torrence is some great cornerback. That is why I compare them.

I will spell things out better for you next time. Sorry about that.

08-09-2009, 12:21 AM	#8
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Training Camp Updates: Perhaps we both are wrong but I coulda swore he waited to see what his value was and stayed with the Skins. I don't recall the Jets wanting him but I could be wrong. I'll admit that.

08-09-2009, 12:22 AM	#9
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 50 Posts: 4,261	Re: Training Camp Updates: This Marcus Mason fantasy needs to end. He is the new Leigh Torrence. Both suck. That is why neither caught on anywhere when they were dropped. Walt Harris was and is 1000 times better than Leigh Torrence and Marcus Mason is probably the 6th best back on the team counting the Caveman.

08-09-2009, 12:30 AM	#12
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Training Camp Updates: Dude you are all over the board. LT Leigh Torrence. Wake the hell up. I just used initials. I was speaking of the same people you were. Are we a little agitated today Pocket? Did not get any last night? Whats all the hostility?

08-09-2009, 12:32 AM	#14
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Training Camp Updates: Your asking if I'm drinking and your the one switching from RB position to CB position? Can we switch to kickers next?

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