"Jason Campbell struggles against the Steelers"

Monkeydad · 08-25-2009, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

No joke. I think every argument for or against every qb on the roster has already been made...about 1,000 times.

I don't believe we've made enough points about Randel El as the QB.

Monkeydad · 08-25-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm starting to think that max protect may not be the best way to go about generating the big plays. This is something that I'm just now considering based on evidence from the last preseason game, but I think the element of deception is critical for this offense to get big plays. If we block with seven or eight and send one guy on a post, he's going to have two guys on him every time. But in a five step drop, we can probably pick our spots and get one on ones. Then Campbell can take the shot if he has the time, or check it down if he doesn't.

If we max protect, we're gambling that we will catch them in a blitz. If we don't, then throwing it deep is just wasting the down, and risking the INT.

Campbell has proven he's at least smart enough to throw the ball away. He's a great decision maker, he just needs the time to follow through with his decisions. Last year's crazy split showed he's solid when protected.

SmootSmack · 08-25-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster

I don't believe we've made enough points about Randel El as the QB.

Or Marques Hagans for that matter

Jay Schroeder · 08-26-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Your knowledge of other quarterbacks in this league is staggering.

You can clown all you want, but he is one of the worst qbs in the league and I mean starting when I say that. It is just the truth, I've been a redskins fan since I started watching them play in 85 (not that this enhance my knowledge of qbs). It is just a fact that campbell is one of the worst starters in the league.

gibbsisgod · 08-26-2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Schroeder

You can clown all you want, but he is one of the worst qbs in the league and I mean starting when I say that. It is just the truth, I've been a redskins fan since I started watching them play in 85 (not that this enhance my knowledge of qbs). It is just a fact that campbell is one of the worst starters in the league.

We have already been through this. He is not "one of the worst". Should we start to list them again?

Jay Schroeder · 08-26-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

There are a few starting quarterbacks in the NFL who haven't proved adequacy:

1. Kyle Orton
2. Matt Cassel
3. Shaun Hill
4. The post-Green Bay Brett Favre
5. Matthew Stafford
6. Luke McCown
7. Mark Sanchez
8. The post-Martz Marc Bulger
9. JaMarcus Russell
10. Derek Anderson/Brady Quinn
11. Trent Edwards
12. Vince Young
13. Joe Flacco

You could take any of these guys over Campbell, but it would be merely a personal preference. Not anything based on past performance.

I would take Cassell, Sanchez, Flacco and Derek Anderson over him anyday. Agreed that 5th worst label was a bit harsh, but the guy is visibly one of the worst in the league.

Young isn't even a starter anymore

gibbsisgod · 08-26-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Schroeder

I would take Cassell, Sanchez, Flacco and Derek Anderson over him anyday. Agreed that 5th worst label was a bit harsh, but the guy is visibly one of the worst in the league.

Young isn't even a starter anymore

So you would take a guy in Sanchez that has never taken a real NFL snap and hasn't looke dthat great either over JC? Boy am I glad you are not the coach.

And I like Joe Flacco but come on. Its like Gtripp said, its nothing more than personal preference. Because it sure as hell isn't because he is a far better QB. Look at the #s

MTK · 08-26-2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Schroeder

You can clown all you want, but he is one of the worst qbs in the league and I mean starting when I say that. It is just the truth, I've been a redskins fan since I started watching them play in 85 (not that this enhance my knowledge of qbs). It is just a fact that campbell is one of the worst starters in the league.

Coming from someone with your name, you should be an expert on crappy QB play. Surprisingly though, you're not.

Jay Schroeder · 08-26-2009, 11:08 AM

I hope I am wrong, but Campbell hasn't proven me to be. Flacco is obviously a better qb. Sanchez has way more potential than Campbell. Last two super bowls we won were with average quarterbacks, hopefully we can get a wild card birth this year with a poor one.

MTK · 08-26-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Schroeder

I hope I am wrong, but Campbell hasn't proven me to be. Flacco is obviously a better qb. Sanchez has more way more potential than Campbell. Last two super bowls we won were with average quarterbacks, hopefully we can get a wild card birth this year with a poor one.

Let's deal with objective and not subjective.

How is Flacco "obviously" better?

How do you know Sanchez has "way more" potential?

Based on what exactly?

Monkeydad · 08-26-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Schroeder

I hope I am wrong, but Campbell hasn't proven me to be. Flacco is obviously a better qb. Sanchez has way more potential than Campbell. Last two super bowls we won were with average quarterbacks, hopefully we can get a wild card birth this year with a poor one.

A poor QB named Jay Schroeder got us into playoff contention.

Campbell is far better than you give him credit for, but the performance of the offensive line will make or break the season. The Hogs carried us to championships and these new guys will have to step up in a Hog-like way to get us to the SB again...regardless of who is the QB.

Monkeydad · 08-26-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Let's deal with objective and not subjective.

How is Flacco "obviously" better?

How do you know Sanchez has "way more" potential?

Based on what exactly?

Are you questioning Jay Schroeder's judgement?

Jay Schroeder · 08-26-2009, 11:14 AM

and this isn't pure hate Im spewing here. If you choose to disagree so be it. But the guy looks awful in the pocket, slow, timid, inaccurate on the deep ball, etc...I don't care if it was raining, that throw to Malcolm Kelly was god awful. Snyder and Cerratto outdid themselves by hiring Zorn and picking Campbell in the first round.

Jay Schroeder · 08-26-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Buster

A poor QB named Jay Schroeder got us into playoff contention.

Campbell is far better than you give him credit for, but the performance of the offensive line will make or break the season. The Hogs carried us to championships and these new guys will have to step up in a Hog-like way to get us to the SB again...regardless of who is the QB.

agreed

Jay Schroeder · 08-26-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Let's deal with objective and not subjective.

How is Flacco "obviously" better?

How do you know Sanchez has "way more" potential?

Based on what exactly?

Thats just what I saw from him last year. The Monday Night game for one, and over the season, and campbell has like two years experience on Flacco.

Again the Sanchez statement is just my humble opinion from what I have seen so far.

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Jay Schroeder Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 114	Re: "Jason Campbell struggles against the Steelers" I hope I am wrong, but Campbell hasn't proven me to be. Flacco is obviously a better qb. Sanchez has way more potential than Campbell. Last two super bowls we won were with average quarterbacks, hopefully we can get a wild card birth this year with a poor one.

08-26-2009, 11:14 AM	#313
Jay Schroeder Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 114	Re: "Jason Campbell struggles against the Steelers" and this isn't pure hate Im spewing here. If you choose to disagree so be it. But the guy looks awful in the pocket, slow, timid, inaccurate on the deep ball, etc...I don't care if it was raining, that throw to Malcolm Kelly was god awful. Snyder and Cerratto outdid themselves by hiring Zorn and picking Campbell in the first round.

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