Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

No way in hell we get a 1st round pick. All damages are, at this point, somewhat speculative in terms of asserting certain UFA's would have signed with us and not others. Further, what UFA out there was worth a 1st round pick? Jackson? maybe, but, by all accounts we didn't make a push for him.

Maybe, maybe, we get a mid round pick or two from an arbiter. I certainly can't see "The Owners/NFL" entering into a settlement that gets us picks considering that they wanted to strip us of picks. I am pretty sure they would draw a line in the sand on that one as a settlement point. Given the speculative nature of the damages, even if we could win picks through formal legal action (not arbitration), and IMHO, it would take some time for the award to be finalized through the appellate process and so the owners could make a pretty good stand on that issue.

Don't get me wrong I too think we won't get the draft picks. I'm saying they should have to give us a pick. I doubt it happens. I'd presume we'd just get our money back. But because of the way it was handled and whom handled it, and how it was not passed on to the owners meeting for discussion, should be enough right there to warrant someone stepping down from their position. However I'll settle for a draft pick.

[Defensewins]

I wonder how much the NFL owners victory over the players in the CBA give birth to the arrogance that led to this mess?
Rule 1 in the Godell and Mara rule book- 'Do as I say not as I do'.

[Monksdown]

In order of likelihood:

1. We get nothing overturned. Senator Durbin gets involved.

2. Private settlement. This year's penalty remains. 2nd half of penalty, next year's is waived.

3. Completely overturned. No compensatory picks. Senator Durbin gets involved.

4. Completely overturned. Compensatory picks awarded. Issue dropped with stern warning from NFLPA.

[dmek25]

[Ruhskins]

Looks like compensatory picks will be given out today during the owner's meeting.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Looks like compensatory picks will be given out today during the owner's meeting.

In unrelated news, the NFL has announced it has seized the Redskins remaining 2012 draft picks and distributed them amongst New York teams with names that end in "Giants" as punishment for their defiance against The Supreme Overlord NFL Management Council.

[Ruhskins]

I still don't understand how the Bears dumping almost $35 mil of Pepper's salary is not seen as a competitive advantage.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I still don't understand how the Bears dumping almost $35 mil of Pepper's salary is not seen as a competitive advantage.

Actually all that are shown. Houston got a $15mill advantage. The league took 18 form us for one year so why didn't they take 7.5 of Houstons? Dallas had 10 total and they took 5 this yr. Even the Cheifs saved a good bit, why didn't the league split their savings.

I was going to joke and say the limit was $10mill or more but your right the Bears dumped $35mill and no penalty. The whole punishment looks shady when you add all the teams who reworked contracts and saved money but only the two teams who are in the same division as the owner who levied the punishment gets punished?

[SKINSnCANES]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I still don't understand how the Bears dumping almost $35 mil of Pepper's salary is not seen as a competitive advantage.

I looked into it more, his charged salary for that year was around 20 million, and the year before with Carolina he earned 19 million, so it wasn't much of a change

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

I looked into it more, his charged salary for that year was around 20 million, and the year before with Carolina he earned 19 million, so it wasn't much of a change

That's still a 15 million dollar difference. If a player had a 20 mil cap hit in 2010 and a 5 mil cap hit in 2011, wouldn't you be saying they did the same thing we did? A 15 million dollar difference is still big. I think the reason we got punished and the Bears didn't was because John Mara doesn't give a crap about the Bears and we are his division rivals.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by mooby

That's still a 15 million dollar difference. If a player had a 20 mil cap hit in 2010 and a 5 mil cap hit in 2011, wouldn't you be saying they did the same thing we did? A 15 million dollar difference is still big. I think the reason we got punished and the Bears didn't was because John Mara doesn't give a crap about the Bears and we are his division rivals.

They hammered Dallas for $10 mill.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

I looked into it more, his charged salary for that year was around 20 million, and the year before with Carolina he earned 19 million, so it wasn't much of a change

But according to that graphic, the Bears took a 34.9 million cap hit that year and this is the highest compared to the rest of the years in the contract. I am not well versed in cap details, but I see this as an unfair competitive advantage, since the Bears were able to sign one of the top DEs in the league and take a 35 million cap hit during the uncapped season.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Extra picks?! AWESOME.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Extra picks?! AWESOME.

Well no word yet on whether the Skins will get any extra picks

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well no word yet on whether the Skins will get any extra picks

This whole issue aside should we be getting any extra picks for anyone we lost?