Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

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I believe the team got into a general funk after the loss to the Giants, and Shanahan's speech kind of sparked a new determination. Hopefully it carries through the end of the season.

[Hail to the SteelSkins]

From playing College and High-School ball (which is not nearly as intense and draining on the body) I can tell you that playing nine games in a row with out a week off to let your body recoup is really tough. Basically if you are playing at 100%, like not taking it easy during the game, and really working at being the best on every play, its like being in a car accident, you know how you tense up right before impact, and your muscles / body is sore for a week or so after. You basically are causing you body to do that every play for 60 minutes with small breaks of relapse in between plays, which in my opinion from playing, that cool off period hurts worse then helping cause that's when the soreness kicks in and you start to cramp up.

I'm not saying their job is hard by any means... they get paid to play a game (was my dream before blowing out my ACL, and TCL, plus I'm to short to be an NFL O-Lineman 5'11") but the toll it takes on their bodies week in and week out is very intense. All that said I could see that they needed a week to "reduce the swelling" if you will, and hopefully the 10 day break between Turkey Day and Monday was a good second break so they can finish strong.

[CRedskinsRule]

Eli Manning Height: 6-4 Weight: 218
Robert Griffin III: Height: 6-2 Weight: 217
Brett Favre: Height: 6'2" Weight: 222

I get that Griffin takes hits, but 2 other qbs above with similar build had extremely long "injury free" streaks. Eli rarely takes hits, Favre though was hit fairly frequently in his time in the league, in fact in his first 10 years was sacked more than 25 times in 9 of them. Add in the protection given to qb's nowadays, and the whole hit issue seems like a bit of a red herring.

Now of course, if he were to go down, a lot of people would be saying see!!!, but fact is every year quarterbacks go down. Brady has, Stafford has, Romo has been concussed several times I believe, Aikman left due to concussions. It is a brutal sport, and if teams know that the qb is dangerous, they will want to take as many hits on him as they get paid for (oops, I mean as they can).

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Eli Manning Height: 6-4 Weight: 218
Robert Griffin III: Height: 6-2 Weight: 217
Brett Favre: Height: 6'2" Weight: 222

I get that Griffin takes hits, but 2 other qbs above with similar build had extremely long "injury free" streaks. Eli rarely takes hits, Favre though was hit fairly frequently in his time in the league, in fact in his first 10 years was sacked more than 25 times in 9 of them. Add in the protection given to qb's nowadays, and the whole hit issue seems like a bit of a red herring.

Now of course, if he were to go down, a lot of people would be saying see!!!, but fact is every year quarterbacks go down. Brady has, Stafford has, Romo has been concussed several times I believe, Aikman left due to concussions. It is a brutal sport, and if teams know that the qb is dangerous, they will want to take as many hits on him as they get paid for (oops, I mean as they can).

Did Griffin lose six pounds??? He was 223 at the combine.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Did Griffin lose six pounds??? He was 223 at the combine.

took it from NFL's stat page.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

took it from NFL's stat page.

I would still lean towards the 223 lb stat from the combine. But going back to the topic, I don't see how his "style of play" which is pass first, and run if need be is gonna magically get him hurt.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I would still lean towards the 223 lb stat from the combine. But going back to the topic, I don't see how his "style of play" which is pass first, and run if need be is gonna magically get him hurt.

I agree with the 223 part, but even at 217, he's not some scrawny pencil thin guy. My only point was Eli is 2 inches taller at the same listed weight, and Favre, the qb iron man, was the same height and basically the same weight. As Matty said, he will put bulk on in the offseasons and his frame certainly looks to support it.

[MTK]

RG3 has room to put on some more weight. I wouldn't be surprised to see him bulk up some more in the coming years.

[MTK]

JPP was absolutely owned by "Bob" this year.

[mredskins]

Worrying about RGIII getting hurt is a waste of time. Like everyone in the NFL he will have his injuries. That is why you develop guys like cousins. Brady, Manning, etc...have all had their lost seasons sadly RGIII will also; just a inherent risk of the game.

[FRPLG]

The solution to RGIII getting hit is to have a capable backup who can execute the same offense. Or a close approximation. We're a little short there right now.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

The solution to RGIII getting hit is to have a capable backup who can execute the same offense. Or a close approximation. We're a little short there right now.

Thats like saying the solution to getting in a car accident is to make sure you have a good second car. Thats a horrible plan. The real solution is to drive safely so that you can avoid getting into an accident to begin with.

The solution to RGIII is to do everything you reasonably can to prevent him from taking too many unnecessary big hits. You dont change your offense. You dont tell him not to run. You PROTECT him buy upgrading the offensive line. Otherwise, if RGIII gets hurt and a backup comes in, the backup will just get hit just as much, if not more, than RGIII. Then what do you do when that guy goes down? Fix the problem and you dont need 10 backup QBs who are "close approximations" of RGIII.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

The solution to RGIII getting hit is to have a capable backup who can execute the same offense. Or a close approximation. We're a little short there right now.

Heath Evan's suggested we get Mike Vick next offseason..Not Happening


anyway heres a great RG3 highlight video.

[MTK]

RG3 can help himself too by getting the ball out quicker. That will come with more experience, and part of it is the guy is fearless and isn't afraid to take a hit.

[SmootSmack]

I mean any idiot can call this offense, but still...fun to look at pictures

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