Who is Kirk Cousins?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I think its funny that if u dont have a cannon for an arm you are cast into the "game manager" position. That is the dumbest name ever. Kirk is a smart qb who has the ability to throw 30-40 times and gain 300 yards if need be. His bad interception, rush to judgement throws have certainly subsided and that was really his only knock. He is able to avoid pressure, read defenses, and make the throw. He has improved every week of the season in his first real season at the helm. I cannot imagine how many times Griff would have had to pick himself up and brush off the dirt over these first 8 games. As soon as this guy gets the run game, a solid group of wr's, and a defense on his team he is going to be a damn good QB. We still have a shot at the division and it is so nice we are playing meaningful games in November, but I cannot wait until we get a few more pieces on this team and really challenge the league next year. Namely, a MLB, DB, S, WR, C / right side help, and an edge rusher.

But why is it on a "if need be" basis? Right now this should be our offense.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

His stat line yesterday, if everyone else came to play, would have read something like 30-38, 310 yards, 2 td's and 0 int's. This is being conservative since the damn drives all stalled due to a butterfingers fucking outbreak. It was a God damned epidemic! How many quartetbacks ( especially ones starting one of their first 20 games) go into fucking Foxboro and do that?
Edit: Garcons int should have been a first down and nice gainer. Carriers perfectly placed baby in a fucking blanket should have gone for 40 fucking yards!

Oh jeez, we arent doing make believe stats now, are we?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

But why is it on a "if need be" basis? Right now this should be our offense.

Every game in a qb's career is not going to resemble that stat line is all i meant. Wasnt necessarily commenting on the here and now. He has the ability to do that.

[Chico23231]

Who is Cousins?

The 24th rated passer and the 20th QBR rated passer.

In other words, nothing special

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Who is Cousins?



The 24th rated passer and the 20th QBR rated passer.



In other words, nothing special

It is trending up that is what is important. Becoming more consistent. Everyone was saying let me see him string together two good games. He just did n one was on the road in Foxboro. His fucking teammates let him down and stole his thunder.
Edit: next week will be number three in a row when he torches the Saints D. Lets hope everyones hands are nice and fucking warmed up now.

[punch it in]

These rankings dont tell the whole story. Far from it. Im pretty sure nobody is looking to trade Cam for Tyrod Taylor. You cannot see Cams name because it is two quarterbacks below Cousins. Fuck rankings Cousins is passing the eye test with flying colors as of late. A vast improvement from earlier in the year.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Who is Cousins?

The 24th rated passer and the 20th QBR rated passer.

In other words, nothing special

This is why I pay little attention to stats. KC should have had a much better stat line yesterday. He lost probably 80 yards in drops and a int that clearly wasn't his fault.

He's not anything special right now, I agree there. But I think he's showing that he is a starter and can win games with a good team around him. Right now he doesn't have a good team around him and has 0 running game.

[NoCalHail]

Wait....he has improved every week? I don't agree. He has been up and down the entire season, just like he has been in the past.

I won't hold the Pats game against him because of all the drops, but eliminating this game from consideration, he still hasn't really strung two good performances together in a row yet this season.

No one is arguing whether he is the "best option on the current roster" but that doesn't necessarily mean anything in the big picture other than the fact that we have mediocre-to-average QB's on the roster.

Game manager, average, etc etc etc......whatever the term may be. Where does he rank statistically against all other QB's in the league? Somewhere in the middle probably. So what does that make him?

The question isn't about 2015. This is likely a 6 win team regardless. This is about what we do beyond this season. Some of you are ready to lock him up long term based on what you have seen so far? Really? I completely understand a 1-2 year extension based on management feeling they need more time to evaluate while also giving them the option to draft or go out and sign another QB if they see fit, but I haven't seen anything from Cousins that screams out needing to make him the long term answer at QB for the franchise.

[NoCalHail]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This is why I pay little attention to stats. KC should have had a much better stat line yesterday. He lost probably 80 yards in drops and a int that clearly wasn't his fault.

He's not anything special right now, I agree there. But I think he's showing that he is a starter and can win games with a good team around him. Right now he doesn't have a good team around him and has 0 running game.

Right but so can Ryan Fitzpatrick but you don't go and give him a long term contract for franchise QB money. There are a lot of middle of the pack QB's that can win games with a "good team around them" and that is good and all, but you don't go out and pay them to be a franchise QB.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by NoCalHail

Wait....he has improved every week? I don't agree. He has been up and down the entire season, just like he has been in the past.



I won't hold the Pats game against him because of all the drops, but eliminating this game from consideration, he still hasn't really strung two good performances together in a row yet this season.

So if you eliminate the second game of two good games in a row than he hasnt played two good games in a row? Gotcha.

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I think its funny that if u dont have a cannon for an arm you are cast into the "game manager" position. That is the dumbest name ever. Kirk is a smart qb who has the ability to throw 30-40 times and gain 300 yards if need be. His bad interception, rush to judgement throws have certainly subsided and that was really his only knock. He is able to avoid pressure, read defenses, and make the throw. He has improved every week of the season in his first real season at the helm. I cannot imagine how many times Griff would have had to pick himself up and brush off the dirt over these first 8 games. As soon as this guy gets the run game, a solid group of wr's, and a defense on his team he is going to be a damn good QB. We still have a shot at the division and it is so nice we are playing meaningful games in November, but I cannot wait until we get a few more pieces on this team and really challenge the league next year. Namely, a MLB, DB, S, WR, C / right side help, and an edge rusher.

I don't understand the "not having a strong arm" he just overthrew DJ again Sunday on a deep ball down the sideline. His arm is plenty strong.

[NoCalHail]

I wouldn't call yesterday a "good game"

[NoCalHail]

Originally Posted by Brody81

I don't understand the "not having a strong arm" he just overthrew DJ again Sunday on a deep ball down the sideline. His arm is plenty strong.

I think too often "strong arm" is only looked at by how far a QB can heave a ball downfield, when it is really so much more. Making throws with zip on the ball, hitting WR's in stride. Those crossing patterns in the medium range where the WR is running towards sideline and the QB has to zip it into tight window.

All of that stuff is part of what makes up a strong arm. You watch Brady play in that Pats offense, and they throw as many short passes as any other offense, but Brady delivers the ball with zip where it needs to be in order for YAC to occur on almost every single catch, where as Cousins often times is throwing behind the WR, low to the ground, or in a spot where the ball catcher has to stop to catch it, therefore gets tackled right away. Is it due to lack of arm strength or still working on timing in the scheme? Could be some of both.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by NoCalHail

I wouldn't call yesterday a "good game"

Bullshit. 8 drops. Cousins was on the money.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Brody81

I don't understand the "not having a strong arm" he just overthrew DJ again Sunday on a deep ball down the sideline. His arm is plenty strong.

I dont think his arm is john beck like im just catering to the masses. My point was people like to tag him as the next game managing alex smith.