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Old 02-25-2020, 03:35 PM   #1
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I think with our TE situation taking risks really isn’t a luxury we have but if we bring him in as a no2 TE for a 5th round pick, I wouldn’t be opposed. 2 more years on his deal to prove he can play.
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I think with our TE situation taking risks really isn’t a luxury we have but if we bring him in as a no2 TE for a 5th round pick, I wouldn’t be opposed. 2 more years on his deal to prove he can play.
I wouldn't want Redskins to give up a high draft pick for Hurst neither, and we should not expect Hurst to resolve our TE issue if we trade for him. I prefer for Redskins to sign Henry although it doesn't seem likely now that the Chargers GM mentioned that they are thinking about using franchise tag to keep Henry.
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I wouldn't want Redskins to give up a high draft pick for Hurst neither, and we should not expect Hurst to resolve our TE issue if we trade for him. I prefer for Redskins to sign Henry although it doesn't seem likely now that the Chargers GM mentioned that they are thinking about using franchise tag to keep Henry.


What wrong with Hooper besides his $11 mill/yr price tag? He’s NOT being franchised. I just wonder how many teams are going to be going after him?


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What wrong with Hooper besides his $11 mill/yr price tag? He’s NOT being franchised. I just wonder how many teams are going to be going after him?


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For some reason, I'm not 100% sold on Hooper. Based on my amateur scouting (lots of highlights videos, watching games, and reading news about the player), I didn't get impression that Hooper can make a big difference for a team. Although skinsfan did mention about Hooper's high catch rate, which is really good I have to admit.. In my opinion, If we want to spend a good amount of money on a receiver then the player should be a playmaker, or filling in that position will help bring Redskins to playoffs/super bowl. However, we are not even close to being a SB contender yet. Also, I know it's not new for FA players to be overpaid due to limited available options (i.e., Cousins) but since we are not close to being a contender yet, I prefer for us to build the team through drafts and smart signings until Redskins team show that they are close to SB then Redskins should go all in and do everything they can to fill in the needs.

This is not to say that I would be upset if we sign Hooper, I would be satisfied with the move but not excited. Scott Turner did say that TE is vital piece to his offense so it would makes sense if we sign him. I just hope that Redskins will not give Hooper a massive contract, just to outbid other teams. There will be a few teams who will want to sign Hooper so I think there will be a bidding war for Hooper. Hooper is in bottom of the top 10 TEs in NFL and he is not worth the #1 TE money.
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For some reason, I'm not 100% sold on Hooper. Based on my amateur scouting (lots of highlights videos, watching games, and reading news about the player), I didn't get impression that Hooper can make a big difference for a team. Although skinsfan did mention about Hooper's high catch rate, which is really good I have to admit.. In my opinion, If we want to spend a good amount of money on a receiver then the player should be a playmaker, or filling in that position will help bring Redskins to playoffs/super bowl. However, we are not even close to being a SB contender yet. Also, I know it's not new for FA players to be overpaid due to limited available options (i.e., Cousins) but since we are not close to being a contender yet, I prefer for us to build the team through drafts and smart signings until Redskins team show that they are close to SB then Redskins should go all in and do everything they can to fill in the needs.



This is not to say that I would be upset if we sign Hooper, I would be satisfied with the move but not excited. Scott Turner did say that TE is vital piece to his offense so it would makes sense if we sign him. I just hope that Redskins will not give Hooper a massive contract, just to outbid other teams. There will be a few teams who will want to sign Hooper so I think there will be a bidding war for Hooper. Hooper is in bottom of the top 10 TEs in NFL and he is not worth the #1 TE money.


Yes, Hooper and Henry are very good TE, but certainly not elite. $11 mill is top TE money but I look at it being only HALF the price of an elite WR FA like Cooper. So perhaps you can pay for Henry at $10-11 mill and then use another $ 10 mill to get a CB or LB FA.

The cap is a zero sum game. Frankly, we just do not have the money to fill our many holes. Another issue is that last year 6 out of our top 8 FA got hurt and couldn’t finish the season. So a big consideration for a player we want badly, such as Henry / Hooper, is how will they survive the seasons we’re paying guaranteed money for?

I’d rather have a good FA playing all season than a great FA who doesn’t make it into any regular season games!


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For some reason, I'm not 100% sold on Hooper. Based on my amateur scouting (lots of highlights videos, watching games, and reading news about the player), I didn't get impression that Hooper can make a big difference for a team. Although skinsfan did mention about Hooper's high catch rate, which is really good I have to admit.. In my opinion, If we want to spend a good amount of money on a receiver then the player should be a playmaker, or filling in that position will help bring Redskins to playoffs/super bowl. However, we are not even close to being a SB contender yet. Also, I know it's not new for FA players to be overpaid due to limited available options (i.e., Cousins) but since we are not close to being a contender yet, I prefer for us to build the team through drafts and smart signings until Redskins team show that they are close to SB then Redskins should go all in and do everything they can to fill in the needs.

This is not to say that I would be upset if we sign Hooper, I would be satisfied with the move but not excited. Scott Turner did say that TE is vital piece to his offense so it would makes sense if we sign him. I just hope that Redskins will not give Hooper a massive contract, just to outbid other teams. There will be a few teams who will want to sign Hooper so I think there will be a bidding war for Hooper. Hooper is in bottom of the top 10 TEs in NFL and he is not worth the #1 TE money.
So this is the problem...Scott Turner's offense features the TE, also Haskins really like to throw TE based on last year on the field. Sprinkle and others got a fair amount of targets. You want to setup your new QB up to win? Get him the pieces the offense needs to properly function and the QB feels comfortable throwing too.

Teams that feature the TE in the pass game win. Look at the Patriots for years. Kelce and Kittle in the SB. Why? They get favorable matchups against LB, Safety, etc.

We cant continue to spin wheels taking chances with UDFA, late round picks or other risk ie Hayden Hurst.

Spend the money
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I’m all in on Hooper

We desperately need a TE and he’s young and has been very productive

I don’t see why anyone would hesitate on him

Haskins would really benefit by having a quality TE


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I’m all in on Hooper

We desperately need a TE and he’s young and has been very productive

I don’t see why anyone would hesitate on him

Haskins would really benefit by having a quality TE


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The leap Lamar Jackson took this yr was due to hie 2 TE's, both are matchup problems for LBs. In today's game, if you don't have a legit Pass catching TE , u will struggle.

Look at what happened to NE post Gronk... Chargers when Henry was out. Etc.
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I’m all in on Hooper

We desperately need a TE and he’s young and has been very productive

I don’t see why anyone would hesitate on him

Haskins would really benefit by having a quality TE


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We are going to face some steep competition. I heard on Sirius XM NFL radio yesterday that the Packers and Bears are both very interested in Hooper.
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We are going to face some steep competition. I heard on Sirius XM NFL radio yesterday that the Packers and Bears are both very interested in Hooper.
There will be lots of teams in on him , but neither of these two has much in the way of cap space
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There are three very good Ohio State receivers who will probably go after the 3rd round. Since they are from OSU's program, they are, like McLauren, well trained and disciplined route runners: KJ Hill, Austin Mack and Binjamin Victor. I am sure we could get one of them in the 4th round. KJ Hill in particular was a favorite of Haskins in 2018. And Haskins made several big throws to Binjamin.
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There are three very good Ohio State receivers who will probably go after the 3rd round. Since they are from OSU's program, they are, like McLauren, well trained and disciplined route runners: KJ Hill, Austin Mack and Binjamin Victor. I am sure we could get one of them in the 4th round. KJ Hill in particular was a favorite of Haskins in 2018. And Haskins made several big throws to Binjamin.


I agree with the team’s interest in Hill. He had better numbers than MacLaurin at Ohio State. Haskins is talking him up. I think it’s possible the Redskins could draft him.

I think the Redskins will draft a TE at their third rounder at #66.

I believe they hope Hill will float under the radar in the NFL and then they can draft him in the fourth round. They listed a bunch of TE and WR the team was interested in at the combine. Then nothing after that. You don’t want another team drafting your guy because you’re good a finding diamonds low in the draft.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Redskins drafted Hill.


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I agree with the team’s interest in Hill. He had better numbers than MacLaurin at Ohio State. Haskins is talking him up. I think it’s possible the Redskins could draft him.

I think the Redskins will draft a TE at their third rounder at #66.

I believe they hope Hill will float under the radar in the NFL and then they can draft him in the fourth round. They listed a bunch of TE and WR the team was interested in at the combine. Then nothing after that. You don’t want another team drafting your guy because you’re good a finding diamonds low in the draft.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Redskins drafted Hill.


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There is no way to know what position any team will draft for in any given round. I'm pretty sure that they make up a draft board regardless of position need.

I doubt that Hill is going to fly under anybody's radar. He can play and everybody knows it BUT there are a lot of good receivers in this draft and some very good WR that we like (even Hill) may well last into the middle rounds.
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Re: Offseason Roster Moves Thread

We need a TE definitely but our interest in Hooper might be to raise the price on him.
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We need a TE definitely but our interest in Hooper might be to raise the price on him.
Why? If we weren't interested in Hooper it would be counterproductive to bid his price up and raise the tight end salary levels. No, I think if we are bidding on Hooper it would be because we want him.

Now, the rumor that we have interest in Cooper could well be to raise his price and force Dallas to spend more. But not Hooper.
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