Welcome Carson Wentz

Chico23231 · 03-12-2022, 01:29 PM

I was thinking about compensation for Wentz and next year hopefully 2nd round pick going to Colts…we should probably receive a high comp pick for Schreff and potentially a large Settle contract.

skinsfan69 · 03-12-2022, 01:58 PM

Let's say for the sake of argument that Ridder or Strong or someone they like falls to the 2nd round. What do you do?

sdskinsfan2001 · 03-12-2022, 02:05 PM

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Let's say for the sake of argument that Ridder or Strong or someone they like falls to the 2nd round. What do you do?

I'd take either in the 2nd and tell Carson to suck on a lemon if he doesn't like it. This is the NFL. Someone will always want your spot. Don't let them take that shit.

Wentz/Carson or Ridder >>>>>>> Fitzpatrick/Heinicke/Allen

Although its unfortunate Fitz didn't get to play the season out. Moreso based on age I'd rather have Wentz than him.

skinsfan69 · 03-12-2022, 02:52 PM

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I'd take either in the 2nd and tell Carson to suck on a lemon if he doesn't like it. This is the NFL. Someone will always want your spot. Don't let them take that shit.

Wentz/Carson or Ridder >>>>>>> Fitzpatrick/Heinicke/Allen

Although its unfortunate Fitz didn't get to play the season out. Moreso based on age I'd rather have Wentz than him.

This is what I'm saying. You have to take that guy. What happens if Wentz turns his knee again? You trotting noodle arm back out there? You have to keep trying to upgrade the position. This is a one year prove it deal for Wentz. If it doesn't work then this time next year you got nothing.

sdskinsfan2001 · 03-12-2022, 03:19 PM

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This is what I'm saying. You have to take that guy. What happens if Wentz turns his knee again? You trotting noodle arm back out there? You have to keep trying to upgrade the position. This is a one year prove it deal for Wentz. If it doesn't work then this time next year you got nothing.

I don't think either of them make it to us unfortunately. I seem Ridder going in round 1 and Carson going ahead of us in round 2.

Carson is underrated by everyone imo.

Swarley · 03-12-2022, 03:00 PM

I mean there's also the scenario in which they don't particularly like any of the QBs outside of the top 3. Carson being on a prove-it deal leads to a scenario where you see how this year goes and draft a QB in what most view as a much better class next year. You spend the draft capital on other needs or just grab BPA regardless.

Personally, I'm okay with either scenario.

skinsfaninok · 03-12-2022, 03:06 PM

Looking like Ertz is a real possibility too

Chico23231 · 03-12-2022, 04:21 PM

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Looking like Ertz is a real possibility too

skinsfaninok · 03-13-2022, 10:29 AM

“Deshaun Watson made it clear he would not waive his no trade clause for a number of teams and Washington was one”

JLC

So like we all assumed , Watson was never a possibility

JGisLordOfTheRings · 03-13-2022, 11:03 AM

The most telling thing about this trade is that Indy has NO QB in building.

The Colts would rather have NO QB than have Wentz there another minute.

We are so fucked.

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mredskins · 03-13-2022, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JGisLordOfTheRings

The most telling thing about this trade is that Indy has NO QB in building.

The Colts would rather have NO QB than have Wentz there another minute.

We are so fucked.

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They have options and in order for them to exercise those options they needed to unload Wentz, now if they start Sam Ehlinger week one, ok i agree with you but lets see what happens with them.

I watched the Hard Knocks, in season, it was actually pretty good. I hope they do another in season much more enjoyable.

Anywho, I mean if you can watch that and decide that Wentz was the Colts problem, i like to hear your argument. Even most talking heads are scratching their heads more with WTF is Indy going to do vs. the Commanders are fawked with this guy Carson.

JGisLordOfTheRings · 03-13-2022, 11:22 AM

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They have options and in order for them to exercise those options they needed to unload Wentz, now if they start Sam Ehlinger week one, ok i agree with you but lets see what happens with them.

I watched the Hard Knocks, in season, it was actually pretty good. I hope they do another in season much more enjoyable.

Anywho, I mean if you can watch that and decide that Wentz was the Colts problem, i like to hear your argument. Even most talking heads are scratching their heads more with WTF is Indy going to do vs. the Commanders are fawked with this guy Carson.

Wife is a Colts fan so we watchd all the games last year, especially the last one vs the Jags.

Wentz is awful, he is a me first guy and his play reflects that.

The Colts have ZERO top QB options, they'll end up with Fitz maybe but they got better and we 100% just got worse.

Not sure ehat I expectEd really. We are a shit franchise, have been for 20+ years and will never be relevant while myself and Daniel Snyder are alive.

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mredskins · 03-13-2022, 11:26 AM

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Wife is a Colts fan so we watchd all the games last year, especially the last one vs the Jags.

Wentz is awful, he is a me first guy and his play reflects that.

The Colts have ZERO top QB options, they'll end up with Fitz maybe but they got better and we 100% just got worse.

Not sure ehat I expectEd really. We are a shit franchise, have been for 20+ years and will never be relevant while myself and Daniel Snyder are alive.

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The real fail this off season is if TH was behind center week one in Sept.

Is Wentz the cream of the crop for this year, nope not by a long shot but its he best we can get. think of us as someone with bad credit and we need a used car, Wentz was the best used car on Eastern Motors lot that we could get with our credit and its a upgrade over the pile of junk we rolled in with (TH).

JGisLordOfTheRings · 03-13-2022, 11:29 AM

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The real fail this off season is if TH was behind center week one in Sept.

Is Wentz the cream of the crop for this year, nope not by a long shot but its he best we can get. think of us as someone with bad credit and we need a used car, Wentz was the best used car on Eastern Motors lot that we could get with our credit and its a upgrade over the pile of junk we rolled in with (TH).

I agree with the first point: no way we could go into this year with TH as the starter. I see zero difference in Wentz and Fitz except Wentz is a goddam turnover MACHINE and we had to GIVE UP pick we can't afford to lose AND were eating his massive, shit salary.

This is a huge L all around in my eyes.

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EdmundDorf · 03-13-2022, 11:27 AM

In the past Indy, more particularly Irsay, has deliberately tanked their QB position to get a good draft position, so I don't think anything can be discounted regarding their plans for the QB position. As for all of the negative PR against Wentz, some might be justified but a great deal is there to justify the owner getting involved in jettisoning the starting QB when there is no better option available.

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03-12-2022, 01:29 PM	#1
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,307	Re: Welcome Carson Wentz I was thinking about compensation for Wentz and next year hopefully 2nd round pick going to Colts…we should probably receive a high comp pick for Schreff and potentially a large Settle contract. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

03-12-2022, 01:58 PM	#2
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,584	Re: Welcome Carson Wentz Let's say for the sake of argument that Ridder or Strong or someone they like falls to the 2nd round. What do you do?

03-12-2022, 03:00 PM	#6
Swarley The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 37 Posts: 1,092	Re: Welcome Carson Wentz I mean there's also the scenario in which they don't particularly like any of the QBs outside of the top 3. Carson being on a prove-it deal leads to a scenario where you see how this year goes and draft a QB in what most view as a much better class next year. You spend the draft capital on other needs or just grab BPA regardless. Personally, I'm okay with either scenario. __________________ doing it all in the spirit of the salary cap!

03-12-2022, 03:06 PM	#7
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 39 Posts: 36,242	Re: Welcome Carson Wentz Looking like Ertz is a real possibility too __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

03-13-2022, 10:29 AM	#9
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 39 Posts: 36,242	Re: Welcome Carson Wentz “Deshaun Watson made it clear he would not waive his no trade clause for a number of teams and Washington was one” JLC So like we all assumed , Watson was never a possibility __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

03-13-2022, 11:03 AM	#10
JGisLordOfTheRings Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Richmond VA Age: 40 Posts: 2,584	Re: Welcome Carson Wentz The most telling thing about this trade is that Indy has NO QB in building. The Colts would rather have NO QB than have Wentz there another minute. We are so fucked. Sent from my SM-S901U using Tapatalk __________________ The redskins pocket is like my love life.....nonexistent and disappointing. -OnceWeWereKings

03-13-2022, 11:27 AM	#15
EdmundDorf The Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: UK, South Posts: 1,926	Re: Welcome Carson Wentz In the past Indy, more particularly Irsay, has deliberately tanked their QB position to get a good draft position, so I don't think anything can be discounted regarding their plans for the QB position. As for all of the negative PR against Wentz, some might be justified but a great deal is there to justify the owner getting involved in jettisoning the starting QB when there is no better option available.

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