Haynesworth is Behaving Selfishly

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I dont understand what it is ive grossly misunderstood

http://www.thewarpath.net/701238-post274.html

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

http://www.thewarpath.net/701238-post274.html

i don't think i'm the one misunderstanding anything that statement. if you have listened to Allen's discussions throughout the offseason, he's consistently made a point to say that most of the rumors reported in the media arent true. for example, he was on espn980 prior to the draft and said that most of the rumors out there regarding the skins werent true. in the same context he said the skins were investigating a lot of options, but that little movement happened at the top of the draft and also that its rare that players get traded during the draft. the implication was that every team is investigating a number of options with varying degrees of seriousness and while alot gets reported, most of it never comes to fruition, either the teams decide not to, or because it was never a serious discussion anyways. he also acknowledge that teams deliberately put out misinformation all the time.

so again, in that context, i believe i interpretted allens statement correctly. he was absolutely not trying to make a statement about how he doesnt have time to read all of the reports out there, so he's not going to say they're all wrong. the mere idea that ALL of the reports and rumors out there are wrong is completely moronic. some of them, even if by mere chance, would be correct.

the broader point is that you cant beleive everything you hear, either by the media or by team representatives. in many cases, parties have agendas they are trying to push. in general, i tend to side with the media, because while a team is always trying to push an agenda, the media SHOULD tend to be more unbiased (although we all know this is often not the case)

[MTK]

Phillip Daniels Clarifies His Haynesworth Comments Via Message Board

[53Fan]

^ Was just getting ready to post that Matty. Good read.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Phillip Daniels Clarifies His Haynesworth Comments Via Message Board

bah.....he should've posted it here.

[diehardskin2982]

I had a dream that we traded AH for Darnell Dockett and Alan Branch

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I had a dream that we traded AH for Darnell Dockett and Alan Branch

I had a dream that we traded AH to the Patriots for a third.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I had a dream that we traded AH to the Patriots for a third.

i love that trade, as it would screw all parties involved equally:

1. It would screw the Redskins because we would be giving up one of the best defensive players in the league for a 3rd round pick, likely near the bottom of the third round, in a very weak 2011 draft class. To top it off, if we continue rebuilding our front office, we'll likely have mostly new scouting and personnel departments next year, further minimizing the likelihood that whomever we select at the pick will ever amount to even being a serviceable backup.

2. It would screw Haynesworth because we'd be trading him to a 3-4 team, and one where he'd likely be benched when he ultimately acted up.

3. It would screw the Patriots because they'd be giving up a pick likely to yield them a starter (far superior coaching staff and personnel department) for a disgruntled player who didnt want to be there and would miss 50% of plays due to being tired or "injured. And the other 50% of the time he'd be giving a half-hearted effort... because, again, he didnt want to be there.

All in all, i think this is one of the best Haynesworth trade ideas i've heard to date. (And Yes, for the record, I do know you were being sarcastic. I just figured i would take it up a notch.)

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

i love that trade, as it would screw all parties involved equally:

1. It would screw the Redskins because we would be giving up one of the best defensive players in the league for a 3rd round pick, likely near the bottom of the third round, in a very weak 2011 draft class. To top it off, if we continue rebuilding our front office, we'll likely have mostly new scouting and personnel departments next year, further minimizing the likelihood that whomever we select at the pick will ever amount to even being a serviceable backup.

2. It would screw Haynesworth because we'd be trading him to a 3-4 team, and one where he'd likely be benched when he ultimately acted up.

3. It would screw the Patriots because they'd be giving up a pick likely to yield them a starter (far superior coaching staff and personnel department) for a disgruntled player who didnt want to be there and would miss 50% of plays due to being tired or "injured. And the other 50% of the time he'd be giving a half-hearted effort... because, again, he didnt want to be there.

All in all, i think this is one of the best Haynesworth trade ideas i've heard to date. (And Yes, for the record, I do know you were being sarcastic. I just figured i would take it up a notch.)

1) so our new scouting/personnel team will be worse? what would be the point of bringing them in?

2) what problem would he have being DE? you think he'd replace Wilfork? LOL

3) you can't back it up and the stats have been shown to you enough to just make you look plain dumb in this case

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

i love that trade, as it would screw all parties involved equally:

1. It would screw the Redskins because we would be giving up one of the best defensive players in the league for a 3rd round pick, likely near the bottom of the third round, in a very weak 2011 draft class. To top it off, if we continue rebuilding our front office, we'll likely have mostly new scouting and personnel departments next year, further minimizing the likelihood that whomever we select at the pick will ever amount to even being a serviceable backup.

2. It would screw Haynesworth because we'd be trading him to a 3-4 team, and one where he'd likely be benched when he ultimately acted up.

3. It would screw the Patriots because they'd be giving up a pick likely to yield them a starter (far superior coaching staff and personnel department) for a disgruntled player who didnt want to be there and would miss 50% of plays due to being tired or "injured. And the other 50% of the time he'd be giving a half-hearted effort... because, again, he didnt want to be there.

All in all, i think this is one of the best Haynesworth trade ideas i've heard to date. (And Yes, for the record, I do know you were being sarcastic. I just figured i would take it up a notch.)

Seriously, it was just a dream. In fact, I had it twice.

[skinsfan_nn]

Haynesworth feels "deceived" by Redskins
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on May 17, 2010 7:32 PM ET
Owner Dan Snyder is disappointed by his defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth.

Haynesworth, for his part, doesn't feel that he's been treated fairly. According to NFL Network's Jason La Canfora, those close to Haynesworth say he feels that he's been sold a bill of goods. The word used was "deceived."

Here's how they are selling it:

Haynesworth was promised before signing he could attack the quarterback when he came to Washington. The Redskins even considered trying to bring his old Titans defensive line coach Jim Washburn to town. Haynesworth had Snyder's ear.

Now that's all changed. He's being asked to occupy blockers, and he can't go around the coaches to get to Snyder anymore.

To this, we say: grow up. Things in life happen that are bigger than you. Coaches get fired, schemes change.

The Haynesworth camp would be better off not giving his side of the story.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

AH is getting pretty unprofessional about all this shit.

[warpaint]

AH just sounds like a rich b**ch. Im so mad i cant go over the coaches head anymore now i got to earn my money.

I was giving him the beneifit of doubt but now he just ruined that if this true.

[SmootSmack]

JLC is trying too hard to find something to stir up about the Skins. Is Haynesworth thrilled with the change to a 3-4? No, but he's not throwing a major fit about things.

He's just not showing up to voluntary practice. That's all there is to it. It's not popular, but it's not wrong either.

[CRedskinsRule]

JLC is trying too hard to find something to stir up about the Skins. Is Haynesworth thrilled with the change to a 3-4? No, but he's not throwing a major fit about things.

He's just not showing up to voluntary practice. That's all there is to it. It's not popular, but it's not wrong either.

Take that common sense away from here. This article is just what is needed to stir the pot for the next week. Of course it doesn't have any real facts but that doesn't matter. The oompa loompa cannon is in full fire effect.