WFT Free Agency

[Chief X_Phackter]

WFT signs WR/KR DeAndre Carter.

Looks like he returns punts/kicks more than he catches passes.

[AnonEmouse]

Another sign Sims may be in camp but will have competition both as a WR and as a returner.

[MTK]

Sims was garbage as a returner, his spot on the team is on very thin ice

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by mtk

sims was garbage as a returner, his spot on the team is on very thin ice

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[FrenchSkin]

Rivera said in the presser the team has had no contact with Scherff regarding a long term solution ... If he's gone next year, tagging him really was a poor move cap wise.

[skinsfaninok]

Washington Football Team
Multiple execs think Washington is on track to win the NFC East again after what appeared to be a solid free agency from a personnel standpoint. A year or two ago, who would have thought that possible for a team that targeted Ryan Fitzpatrick as its starting quarterback?

“Fitz gives them a legitimate chance,” an evaluator said. “He is a legitimate starter who will do on offense what the defensive end (Chase Young) does for them on defense from a leadership standpoint. That’s just the type of impact he has on a team when he’s the guy. They are getting someone who comes in and yells in your face and gets everyone amped. When have they had that guy?”

Alex Smith, Kirk Cousins and Robert Griffin III were not that guy from a temperament standpoint. Few quarterbacks are, and probably for good reason. But for a Washington team that is strongest on defense, Fitzpatrick could be an offensive leader to rally around, provided he does not revert to past turnover-prone ways.

“Curtis Samuel at $11.5 million is a good value for a solid second receiver, gadget guy,” an exec said. “Pairing him with his old college teammate (Terry McLaurin) gives them a formidable receiving corps. They have a lot more weapons than Fitzpatrick had in Miami. On defense, William Jackson is slightly better than Ronald Darby at corner, but also more expensive. We will see if they can get a quarterback for the future, but they are better and they are going to be a problem in the NFC East.”

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Washington Football Team
Multiple execs think Washington is on track to win the NFC East again after what appeared to be a solid free agency from a personnel standpoint. A year or two ago, who would have thought that possible for a team that targeted Ryan Fitzpatrick as its starting quarterback?

“Fitz gives them a legitimate chance,” an evaluator said. “He is a legitimate starter who will do on offense what the defensive end (Chase Young) does for them on defense from a leadership standpoint. That’s just the type of impact he has on a team when he’s the guy. They are getting someone who comes in and yells in your face and gets everyone amped. When have they had that guy?”

Alex Smith, Kirk Cousins and Robert Griffin III were not that guy from a temperament standpoint. Few quarterbacks are, and probably for good reason. But for a Washington team that is strongest on defense, Fitzpatrick could be an offensive leader to rally around, provided he does not revert to past turnover-prone ways.

“Curtis Samuel at $11.5 million is a good value for a solid second receiver, gadget guy,” an exec said. “Pairing him with his old college teammate (Terry McLaurin) gives them a formidable receiving corps. They have a lot more weapons than Fitzpatrick had in Miami. On defense, William Jackson is slightly better than Ronald Darby at corner, but also more expensive. We will see if they can get a quarterback for the future, but they are better and they are going to be a problem in the NFC East.”

So amped for this season, I think the last time I was this excited for a season was RGIII's rookie year.

[Schneed10]

Scalper your take lacks consideration of the context within which McLaurin plays. The QB play he’s gotten the last two season has been bottom five in the NFL by any measure, advanced or otherwise. And he has done it with very little help around him with respect to other skill position players drawing the attention of the defense.

When we got Fitz, Chad Johnson and Mike Tannenbaum both commented on how this puts Terry on a rocket trajectory to the top. He gets open better than almost any WR out there, that’s what separates him as a true number one. Jerry Rice, Steve Largent, these weren’t the biggest receivers either, but they’re in the HOF because they got open better than anybody.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Scalper your take lacks consideration of the context within which McLaurin plays. The QB play he’s gotten the last two season has been bottom five in the NFL by any measure, advanced or otherwise. And he has done it with very little help around him with respect to other skill position players drawing the attention of the defense.

When we got Fitz, Chad Johnson and Mike Tannenbaum both commented on how this puts Terry on a rocket trajectory to the top. He gets open better than almost any WR out there, that’s what separates him as a true number one. Jerry Rice, Steve Largent, these weren’t the biggest receivers either, but they’re in the HOF because they got open better than anybody.

I considered context. In terms of flourishing, I hope so. I love McL, he has heart of a Lion. But from analytical perspective, you still need a big WR to get it done. Rice had some SOLID #2s. Let's hope one of our long-strider #2s steps up this year and its a moot point. The thing Rice and Largent had, besides talent and heart, was QBs that placed the ball consistently very accurately so that they could catch and continue running. Something to consider for people often smitten with all these run-happy QBs, is accuracy, a function of mechanics, but also in some cases a talent you can't teach. McNabb and Newton to me are some of all time worst accuracy examples, in terms of just watching them play. Cousins is pretty bad that way on long balls. How many times do you see receivers slow to get ball or adjust too much, allowing tackle by DB, rather than catching without breaking stride? Maddening. Brady despite being a turd cheater throws a nice deep ball lot of times, impeccable mechanics, give him credit. Montana didn't have strongest arm, but he was cool as liquid helium, and an incredibly accurate passer with great anticipation.

Nitpicking aside, we improved, but so did every other good team. Difference is, we are starting from mismanagement deficit, other good teams aren't, so we have more room to improve. I'd love to see McL see single teams more and crush it, but I still wonder optimal mix of WR talent in today's NFL. There isn't only one right or wrong answer, would be great conversation to have with like 5 GMs and head coaches. To me X factor for whether O steps up, WR wise, isn't McL, or Samuel, or Humphries, but whether one of 3-4 underachieving long strider tall WRs can get shizznit together and be a legit #2. Let's hope so. Gives your offense a LOT more flexibility.

You made some interesting points, man. I always enjoy discussions like these when people can flip some shit without getting panties in a twist.

[Scalper]

Sammis Reyes - TE - A

On athletics alone, this guy is a 4th - 5th round pick or so. It takes a lot more than measurables to play in the NFL, however, and we've all seen lots of measurable guys fail to make the transition. That being said, we have NOTHING at TE outside Thomas. We obtained a guy who while admittedly unproven, has sky-is-the-limit athletic potential. Seeing a guy trot around in shorts catching scripted plays at a pro-day has almost no bearing on real-world NFL performance, so we won't know for a bit, but our TE situation at least immediately looks a lot less ridiculous. Guy has the size of more pure blocking TE, 6-5.5" and 260, without any bad weight, but even though doesn't have stunning straight line speed, has good fluidity and athleticism for size, as expected for guy that could play D1 hoops.

You could have drafted a whole lot of guys, and still might, rounds 4-7, with much less potential than this, higher floor perhaps, but massively lower ceiling. We gave up no draft picks, in trade or drafting directly, used no waiver wire position, and basically got what is essentially a free late round or UDFA draft pick. Guaranteed money certainly minimal, meaning if he blows we cut him with nothing lost. Not ridiculous to think he sticks as #3 TE, we've kept far bigger scrubs on the roster for years. With no risk or downside to signing, and major upside, especially given a TE this big that can move--think passing on plays that telegraph run--you have to give this signing an A.

It is an A on lower end of roster, not some Earth shaking top-5 player signing, but it all adds up. A C released by Panthers here. A decent slot WR that should cost $4M for $1.5M in Humphries there. Another C picked up on waivers. A return specialist on the cheap who you cut with minimal loss. Maybe a few UDFAs. All the sudden you have WAY more talent bottom of roster, and when injuries strike. These kinds of moves show a team that is exhausting EVERY avenue to get better, and forcing EVERY player at EVERY position to compete. We know have four respectable Cs on roster, for example, who knows who makes it, but with competition, the team wins.

There is absolute NO downside to this signing besides small potential dead cap hit (we don't know deals of contract), and with this being weakest position on roster besides FS, not absurd to think he might stick as 3rd TE. This is like getting a free 6th or 7th round pick.

[GridIron26]

Per Hogsheaven, Keim on his podcast said that WFT offered Scherff a contract that would have made him a highest paid guard and Scherff turned it down. While it's possible Scherff wants to stay with the team but wanted a higher amount of guaranteed money, but at this point I think I would try to see if anyone would trade for him.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Per Hogsheaven, Keim on his podcast said that WFT offered Scherff a contract that would have made him a highest paid guard and Scherff turned it down. While it's possible Scherff wants to stay with the team but wanted a higher amount of guaranteed money, but at this point I think I would try to see if anyone would trade for him.

Boom outta here. Pull the tag off him or trade him now

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Per Hogsheaven, Keim on his podcast said that WFT offered Scherff a contract that would have made him a highest paid guard and Scherff turned it down. While it's possible Scherff wants to stay with the team but wanted a higher amount of guaranteed money, but at this point I think I would try to see if anyone would trade for him.

If that offer was made before the tag... I really don't get tagging him... Unless it's a clear attempt at trading him to get some sort of value back.
Tagging him if you know your chances of signing him long term makes very little sense IMO.

[Chief X_Phackter]

He signed the tag. Don't think it can be rescinded now.

If that's the case, no one is going to trade for him. He'll play for the $18M and cash in somewhere else next year. The KC model.

At least we have a really good RG for one more year.

[calia]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

He signed the tag. Don't think it can be rescinded now.

If that's the case, no one is going to trade for him. He'll play for the $18M and cash in somewhere else next year. The KC model.

At least we have a really good RG for one more year.

And he will have every incentive to play really, really well this season.


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