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Old 12-04-2011, 12:20 PM   #1
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That makes a lot of sense to me. I have little doubt that we're going to get a very good player in Round 1 but he may not be a QB. If and only if we can't do something to get Barkley, I'd even have no problem with moving down in the first round if RGIII doesn't fall to us, taking someone like DeCastro, and then trading up in the second to get a QB.

Frankly, I don't rate RGIII as highly as I rate Barkley, so I wouldn't like to see the Skins give up a lot to move up and draft him.
The Redskins need a franchise QB they haven't had since Joey T., I would do whatever it takes to get Barkley since Luck will be gone. Other teams are interested in him as well, the skins need him badly.
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Old 12-04-2011, 12:41 PM   #2
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That makes a lot of sense to me. I have little doubt that we're going to get a very good player in Round 1 but he may not be a QB. If and only if we can't do something to get Barkley, I'd even have no problem with moving down in the first round if RGIII doesn't fall to us, taking someone like DeCastro, and then trading up in the second to get a QB.

Frankly, I don't rate RGIII as highly as I rate Barkley, so I wouldn't like to see the Skins give up a lot to move up and draft him.
My only concern with Barkley is this: what if the same limitations that are causing many draft experts to rate Kellen Moore between the 5th round and undrafted as a prospect are being ignored in the assessment of Barkley? It's clear Barkley's been coached up at USC (if not overcoached), and he has almost magical footwork, but I get a completely different picture of Barkley when I analyze him in his losses vs. his wins.

The big question for Barkley comes if he gets drafted to a losing team that doesn't know how to develop a quarterback: if he struggles in year one, I'm not sure where you go from there. When you have a very undersized, polished NFL-ready passer, he has to come out and succeed right away or it's tough to have confidence in the guy.

I think Barkley can absolutely lead a team to the playoffs next year. He's got first overall type quarterback skills. My concern level for him would skyrocket if he came out early at USC and then got exposed in the NFL. I'm not sure how he would be able to overcome a talent deficiency.
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That makes a lot of sense to me. I have little doubt that we're going to get a very good player in Round 1 but he may not be a QB. If and only if we can't do something to get Barkley, I'd even have no problem with moving down in the first round if RGIII doesn't fall to us, taking someone like DeCastro, and then trading up in the second to get a QB.

Frankly, I don't rate RGIII as highly as I rate Barkley, so I wouldn't like to see the Skins give up a lot to move up and draft him.
RG3 just as good as Barkley if not better.
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I feel like Barkley can have a Matt Ryan/ Sam Bradford impact in his rookie year, go from 4-5 wins to 8-9
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Re: 2012 QB Prospects (Part 2)

thing is, we could be a top 5 -8 pick if we continue to lose games, maybe higher. My dream scenario would be drafting Barkley with whatever 1st rounder we have, prolly 5th or 6th, and then drafting the STUD WR from North Carolina who is going to be a star, Dwight Jones. Solid picks, and instantly makes our offense loads better, especially with Helu turning it on in the backfield. I would be such a happy camper if we get those two, i think id explode.

The tape on Dwight Jones is ridiculous btw, I really dont know why he is rated as going in the 2nd round when he is clearly a first rounder, period.
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Mech, because teams don't really draft WRs in the first rd like they used to. Dwight Jones to me is a lot like Marcus Colston. I would love getting Barkley in the first Jones in the 2nd and Cliff Harris in the 3rd.
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Landry Jones will come back to school next year and he should, he's not ready for the NFL yet..
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Landry Jones will come back to school next year and he should, he's not ready for the NFL yet..
Landry Jones sucks to me.
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I find Kirk Cousins an interesting prospect.
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Re: 2012 QB Prospects (Part 2)

I don't know that much about Baylor. What kind of system do they run? We he be a decent fit here? It sounds like he played lights out this weekend though. 45 TD's this year? WOW.
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I don't know that much about Baylor. What kind of system do they run? We he be a decent fit here? It sounds like he played lights out this weekend though. 45 TD's this year? WOW.
They run a spread similar to the old Texas Tech style difference is RGIII is way more accurate then Kingsbury etc. and has the rocket arm and pocket presence to make all the NFL throws while possessing top QB speed (I am guessing 4.4-4.6 range).
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Good read! I guess maybe our FO/coaching staff used their foresight to suck for the upcoming draft??!!
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RGIII or Matt Barkley will be a Redskin next year. (crosses fingers)
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